I like sugar

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  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    OH my what? I think I found the cake for the next birthday party I put on.

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  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I feel guilt over nothing I eat anymore, it's food and I've developed a healthy relationship with it now. But I'm curious since you are so anti sugar and I'm a glutton for punishment, can you open your diary I would love to see your perfect diary?

    Oh, so you can look at the sugar in a tin of soup, like what happened to GW1970?

    What happened with GW1970 other than I called him on his diet and his argument? You talk a good game about how harmful sugar is I wanted to see if you practiced what you preach. My diary is open because I have nothing to hide.

    They are furiously scrubbing every last molecule of SUGAR from their diaries.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    Bears put on a lot of fat before winter. Wild animals get fat in times of plenty. They don't have magical powers or hormones that make them slim, or eat in moderation.
  • potatogirl741
    potatogirl741 Posts: 64 Member
    I just ate four handfuls of mini chocolate chips. Yum...
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    Bears put on a lot of fat before winter. Wild animals get fat in times of plenty. They don't have magical powers or hormone that make them slim, or magically eat in moderation.

    Except penguins. I used to work at the aquarium and penguins were the only animals who didn't have a regulated food intake, because they only eat what they require and then they stop.


    /uselessfactoftheday
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    Bears put on a lot of fat before winter. Wild animals get fat in times of plenty. They don't have magical powers or hormone that make them slim, or magically eat in moderation.

    Except penguins. I used to work at the aquarium and penguins were the only animals who didn't have a regulated food intake, because they only eat what they require and then they stop.


    /uselessfactoftheday

    And they are jerks (also learned that from you).

    Damn penguins. Skinny ******
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    My dog likes sugar. And beer. I'm pretty sure he is a sugar-alcohol-bulimic alcoholic!

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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    Bears put on a lot of fat before winter. Wild animals get fat in times of plenty. They don't have magical powers or hormone that make them slim, or magically eat in moderation.

    Except penguins. I used to work at the aquarium and penguins were the only animals who didn't have a regulated food intake, because they only eat what they require and then they stop.


    /uselessfactoftheday

    And they are jerks (also learned that from you).

    Damn penguins. Skinny ******

    True story.

    :laugh: :flowerforyou:
  • twixlepennie
    twixlepennie Posts: 1,074 Member
    My dog likes sugar. And beer. I'm pretty sure he is a sugar-alcohol-bulimic alcoholic!

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    :laugh:
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    Bears put on a lot of fat before winter. Wild animals get fat in times of plenty. They don't have magical powers or hormone that make them slim, or magically eat in moderation.

    Except penguins. I used to work at the aquarium and penguins were the only animals who didn't have a regulated food intake, because they only eat what they require and then they stop.


    /uselessfactoftheday

    Oh, that is interesting!
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    My dog likes sugar. And beer. I'm pretty sure he is a sugar-alcohol-bulimic alcoholic!

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    Well gee get him some good beer already. No wonder he's cranky.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    My dog likes sugar. And beer. I'm pretty sure he is a sugar-alcohol-bulimic alcoholic!

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    Well gee get him some good beer already. No wonder he's cranky.
    LOL
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    My dog likes sugar. And beer. I'm pretty sure he is a sugar-alcohol-bulimic alcoholic!

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    Well gee get him some good beer already. No wonder he's cranky.

    Well, but he won't let us get close to the beers! I'll let you know how it turns out...
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    Bears put on a lot of fat before winter. Wild animals get fat in times of plenty. They don't have magical powers or hormone that make them slim, or magically eat in moderation.

    Except penguins. I used to work at the aquarium and penguins were the only animals who didn't have a regulated food intake, because they only eat what they require and then they stop.


    /uselessfactoftheday

    And scientists are furiously working on how to transplant the penguin DNA or whatever controls that, into humans.
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  • Mellyajc
    Mellyajc Posts: 142 Member
    I like sugar, I think it's much healthier to eat 'real' sugar than aspartame and the like. I've noticed fake sugars not only have the weird aftertaste, they make me crave real sugar and therefore my diet gets even worse.

    I have experienced the cravings of sugar addiction, so I try to avoid that, but keeping things occasional and within moderation.. yeah!
  • I agree.
  • Fit_Natasha
    Fit_Natasha Posts: 83 Member
    I ate tons of sugars and sweets all my life, always was 115-120 lb (even after two kids) and very healthy (never in my life any meds except when I got sick with bad cold few times). All my blood work were perfect. Until at the age of 37 I was diagnosed with thyroid decease that was also pre-cancerous. I was in total shock! I didn't want to go the regular way -- radioactive iodine, surgery, and then be on medication for the rest of my life. So I spent last year researching the issue of our immune system and metabolism (read dozens of books). I couldn't comprehend how I ended up with this when no one in my family ever had it. I am totally convinced now that it came from my diet. Even thought doctors and scientists can not say it straight that my condition relates to what I ate, I am pretty confident it came from over consumption of the sugar and sweets. Keep in mind, that all my live I refrained from processed food and sodas (I just never liked it), but always baked a lot and ate it.

    I completely removed sugar from my diet a year ago, shortly after I was diagnosed. The only source of sugar for me now is vegetables, fruits (trying to limit to one a day), and dark chocolate (OK, I could not give it up). Since last June, all my blood tests came back normal and my thyroid hormones is under control now. Since last October, doctor removed me from the thyroid medication even though they keep monitoring it every three months. I no longer need a surgery or radiation treatment.

    Saying that, you may not see any damages from sugar now. It does not mean that sugar does not do any damage to your body in a long term. I am not saying that we should completely cut it off, but it definitely need to be limited.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    .........


    Yep.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    I ate tons of sugars and sweets all my life, always was 115-120 lb (even after two kids) and very healthy (never in my life any meds except when I got sick with bad cold few times). All my blood work were perfect. Until at the age of 37 I was diagnosed with thyroid decease that was also pre-cancerous. I was in total shock! I didn't want to go the regular way -- radioactive iodine, surgery, and then be on medication for the rest of my life. So I spent last year researching the issue of our immune system and metabolism (read dozens of books). I couldn't comprehend how I ended up with this when no one in my family ever had it. I am totally convinced now that it came from my diet. Even thought doctors and scientists can not say it straight that my condition relates to what I ate, I am pretty confident it came from over consumption of the sugar and sweets. Keep in mind, that all my live I refrained from processed food and sodas (I just never liked it), but always baked a lot and ate it.

    I completely removed sugar from my diet a year ago, shortly after I was diagnosed. The only source of sugar for me now is vegetables, fruits (trying to limit to one a day), and dark chocolate (OK, I could not give it up). Since last June, all my blood tests came back normal and my thyroid hormones is under control now. Since last October, doctor removed me from the thyroid medication even though they keep monitoring it every three months. I no longer need a surgery or radiation treatment.

    Saying that, you may not see any damages from sugar now. It does not mean that sugar does not do any damage to your body in a long term. I am not saying that we should completely cut it off, but it definitely need to be limited.
    People are convinced they were abducted by space aliens, and all kinds of other crazy things. Repetition of a thought makes it seem true, too. Being convinced of something has nothing to do with whether or not it is true. I noticed you didn't supply any evidence or reasoning to support your claim, so I'll take that for what it's worth.
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  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Also - did you change other aspects of your life, like amount of exercise?
    If you had cut something else out and recovered, would you be thanking that instead?
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Cheers; taken me a little time to have a read of these.
    What drinks just contain fructose, but no sucruose/glucose? Doesn't sound 'real' world to me. I did check, but apparently OJ, say, has sucrose as the highest proportion of sugars.
    In the real world, how many people actually get 25% of their calories from sugary drinks? Some do probably, I appreciate. And I would actually agree that overweight/obese people may want to look at more complex carbs.
    The summary of this basically starts with 'CICO'., some of which is from sugars.
    What point are you trying to make with this?
    LDL pattern B correlation with added sugar/fructose http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=185711
    I got a little lost with this; could you point me towards where it discusses the actual types (sizes) of LDL?
    Also, interesting to see that men that eat a log of sugar actually had the lowest LDL levels (and women the highest for the same). Perhaps the message should be more specific? :P
    They don't make it clear how much life style is taken in to account for this. As you mention, again at best a correlation.
    Erm, not sure if the second one is supposed to support your point?
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    In these two prospective cohort studies combined, we did not observe a significant increase in the risk of pancreatic cancer among participants who reported higher consumption of sugar-sweetened soft drinks weekly when compared with those who largely abstained.
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    It goes on then about CICO and overweight being an issue.
    It does go on to say
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    In summary, although we failed to find a significant overall relation between sweetened soft drinks and pancreatic cancer risk in both cohorts combined, our data may suggest a modestly higher pancreatic cancer risk associated with higher consumption of sugar-sweetened soft drinks among women as well as those who are overweight. Although we cannot exclude the possibility of residual confounding by other factors associated with sugar-sweetened soft drink consumption,
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    With the women, again.
    Have been slowly going through the first one, but it's certainly 'pushing' my knowledge levels a bit separating the wheat from the chaff. If you happen to understand it better, I'd love to hear the pertinent points
    Kidney disease and high blood pressure http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/4/899.full#sec-10 plus a bunch of other stuff.
    This one very clearly says that causation can NOT be shown.
    I could not find a decent explanation of if lifestyle was taken account of. Also, when talking about history, they both gloss over consumption in India and don't consider that people these days of ALL statuses are considerably more sedentary.
    Over the last 50 years there's been a massive increase in the sedenttry life style. Sure, some where in the past, never mind the motorcar, things like lifts, elevators, even toilets on every floor of a house and the like becoming much more common have made it a lot easier for more to live a lot more sedentary lifestyle.
  • Fit_Natasha
    Fit_Natasha Posts: 83 Member
    Nope. I always exercised moderately. The only thing that changed with my exercise, I stopped running long distances, and now doing no more that 5-6 km runs, very rear 10K.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    @geekbusuk: My hat is off to you for going through the studies and giving us the rundown.
  • The_Aly_Wei
    The_Aly_Wei Posts: 844 Member
    However,
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    That is the same dance i do when spotting a sugar product of any nature.
  • biggsterjackster
    biggsterjackster Posts: 419 Member
    Sugar is the devil!