A Calorie is NOT just a Calorie
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Differences in diet induced thermogensis are represented on the calories-out side of the equation. Isocaloric foods across different macronutrients would have identical calories but you would expend a different amount of calories digesting them.
this is like word porn.
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No I was questioning the fact a comment was made that it doesn't matter where you get your calories from - be it a Twinkie or something else.
Before disputing this I wanted to clarify the statement meant the energy was used by the body in the same way.
I think you need to be more specific on context for that question or statement to be answered correctly.
For the most part your body, like honey badger, don't care.
It works based on a sufficient unit of measurement per mass. In this case grams per kilogram. Twinkie diet will allow you to lose weight, provided you hit a consistent calorie deficit, and the body will efficiently use the calories provided by a diet consisting of just Twinkies.
Whether it's particularly healthful to subsist on Twinkies alone is debatable. How much protein is in a Twinkie? that'd be the only macro of concern, I think. Micros would be a bigger concern, but the SAD (or should we call it the standard Western diet?) - even the new & improved healthier SAD! - is deficient in a lot of micros anyway...
Ultimately a variation in diet is only necessary for three things... interest in food, a good variety of micronutrients, and manipulating your intake of macronutrients. Food energy is a separate entity.
When I'm shooting for a calorie surplus, I like to eat a handful of jellybeans for my excess carbs. True story.0 -
Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.
Is diet adherence required for losing weight?
absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.0 -
Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.
Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
Fats 98%
Animal based proteins 90 - 95%
Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%
Yeah not much difference!!!!
Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels0 -
well we might as well just keep talking so the thread rolls again. even though we all basically agree
You have created a monster!0 -
You & me both.
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well we might as well just keep talking so the thread rolls again. even though we all basically agree
You have created a monster!
This one?0 -
cuz... well...0
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well we might as well just keep talking so the thread rolls again. even though we all basically agree
You have created a monster!
This one?
No.
That's a carb gif.0 -
Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.
Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
Fats 98%
Animal based proteins 90 - 95%
Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%
Yeah not much difference!!!!
Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels
There are. Few sources but a well explained one is http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html
Worth a read.0 -
Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.
Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
Fats 98%
Animal based proteins 90 - 95%
Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%
Yeah not much difference!!!!
Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels
There are. Few sources but a well explained one is www.bodyrecomposition.com/fatloss/energy-balance-equation
Worth a read.
Except its a 4040 -
To lock or not to lock.. that is the question...0
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To lock or not to lock.. that is the question...
Please?0 -
Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.
Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
Fats 98%
Animal based proteins 90 - 95%
Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%
Yeah not much difference!!!!
Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels
There are. Few sources but a well explained one is www.bodyrecomposition.com/fatloss/energy-balance-equation
Worth a read.
Except its a 404
I fixed his link...0 -
To lock or not to lock.. that is the question...
eta changed gif... cuz the other one looked real0 -
Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.
Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
Fats 98%
Animal based proteins 90 - 95%
Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%
Yeah not much difference!!!!
Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels
There are. Few sources but a well explained one is http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html
Worth a read.
Unfortunately I get "page not found" but was thinking more of scientific studies0 -
Yes but they don't all deliver the same end hit.
Ok I cannot post the study but am sure that I read that the differences are so small as to make no noticeable difference when counting calories for weight loss.
Fats 98%
Animal based proteins 90 - 95%
Some carbs (probably twinkles) less than 80%
Yeah not much difference!!!!
Always open to new ideas so would love to read the studies if you could message me or post them and a list of what foods give what levels
There are. Few sources but a well explained one is www.bodyrecomposition.com/fatloss/energy-balance-equation
Worth a read.
Except its a 404
Try a google search. I couldn't cut and paste so had to type it may be slightly wrong0 -
To lock or not to lock.. that is the question...
I would0 -
To lock or not to lock.. that is the question...
Please?
In all honesty, if there isn't any new information, I just might because its starting to become off topic, which violates rule # 20 -
A guy lost a ton of weight on a diet based off twinkies... a calorie is just that. A calorie. Nutrients however, are a different story.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/0 -
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html
I think this is the one you referred to0 -
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Do your own research dude
However a good place to look - the university of Glasgow have done a good study on obesity and energy baba once equation. Their summary was similar to the body recomp explanation.0 -
To be fair we've all been off track from the original op since about page 2 of part 1.
The original topic was the validity of the report the op posted, which discussed calories in / calories out!!!!0 -
I like purple badgers and long, dry baths in desert sand.To lock or not to lock.. that is the question...
Please?
In all honesty, if there isn't any new information, I just might because its starting to become off topic, which violates rule # 2
Is that off-topic enough for you?0 -
To be fair we've all been off track from the original op since about page 2 of part 1.
The original topic was the validity of the report the op posted, which discussed calories in / calories out!!!!
Wants to argue some more. Has had way too much espresso
In reality... Half have been arguing the title. Half have been arguing the link. And half have been arguing that the title means the same as the article.
Yes that gives you three halves...
Cuz
Well
Math0 -
To be fair we've all been off track from the original op since about page 2 of part 1.
The original topic was the validity of the report the op posted, which discussed calories in / calories out!!!!
Wants to argue some more. Has had way too much espresso
In reality... Half have been arguing the title. Half have been arguing the link. And half have been arguing that the title means the same as the article.
Yes that gives you three halves...
Cuz
Well
Math
Your math is off about 90% have been arguing the title the other 20% have been arguing god knows what.0 -
To be fair we've all been off track from the original op since about page 2 of part 1.
The original topic was the validity of the report the op posted, which discussed calories in / calories out!!!!
Wants to argue some more. Has had way too much espresso
In reality... Half have been arguing the title. Half have been arguing the link. And half have been arguing that the title means the same as the article.
Yes that gives you three halves...
Cuz
Well
Math
Holy Mathematics Batman!!! That's a lot of halves.0 -
To be fair we've all been off track from the original op since about page 2 of part 1.
The original topic was the validity of the report the op posted, which discussed calories in / calories out!!!!
Wants to argue some more. Has had way too much espresso
In reality... Half have been arguing the title. Half have been arguing the link. And half have been arguing that the title means the same as the article.
Yes that gives you three halves...
Cuz
Well
Math
Your math is off about 90% have been arguing the title the other 20% have been arguing god knows what.
Now you're telling me I can't even math right!
Reported!
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