A Calorie is NOT just a Calorie

fast_eddie_72

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

tennisdude2004

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

All food are not created equal and that's the one thing we all need to understand for a healthy and sustainable diet.

fast_eddie_72

A guy lost a ton of weight on a diet based off twinkies... a calorie is just that. A calorie. Nutrients however, are a different story.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

Woah! Wish someone had brought that up earlier. Could you do it only eating McDonalds?

DamePiglet

fast_eddie_72

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

All food are not created equal and that's the one thing we all need to understand for a healthy and sustainable diet.

Shush. I wasn't asking you.

tennisdude2004

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

Are you trying to stoke the fire again!:laugh:

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

All food are not created equal and that's the one thing we all need to understand for a healthy and sustainable diet.

Shush. I wasn't asking you.

Cortelli

tennisdude2004

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

Are you trying to stoke the fire again!:laugh:

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

All food are not created equal and that's the one thing we all need to understand for a healthy and sustainable diet.

Shush. I wasn't asking you.

Are trying to stoke the fire again! Naughty.

fast_eddie_72

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

Are you trying to stoke the fire again!:laugh:

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

All food are not created equal and that's the one thing we all need to understand for a healthy and sustainable diet.

Shush. I wasn't asking you.

Are trying to stoke the fire again! Naughty.

Not really. Just trying to clear this up. But need my answer first.

DamePiglet

Cortelli

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fast_eddie_72

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

I'll try again.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

DamePiglet

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

I'll try again.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

Yep.

fast_eddie_72

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

I'll try again.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

Yep.

Then what are macros? If all food is identical, any food will result in the same macros. Right? All have the same number of carbs, fat, etc.

fast_eddie_72

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

rocknlotsofrolls

you guys are cracking me up with those photos/videos or whatever they are!

DamePiglet

Sustainment and diet adherence are the reason for moderation.

Is diet adherence required for losing weight?

absolutely, because if you can't adhere to a calorie deficit, you won't lose weight.

I'll try again.

So, moderation is important for diet adherence. And diet adherence is required for weight loss.

We're almost there.

Are all foods the same?

Yep.

Then what are macros? If all food is identical, any food will result in the same macros. Right? All have the same number of carbs, fat, etc.

I was at the grocery store. Sorry about that.

I didn't say all food is identical - it's not.
But here's the thing... Food is food.
I know, right? That's just krazy!!!

But here's the thing...

I've had my protein for the day.
Let's say I had eaten 4 servings of veges already, instead of the donuts.
So I had my macro of protein, micros from veges.
And I would need calories, carbs & fat...
How 'bout a cupcake?
Because it fits! It completes the puzzle so why say a cupcake is "bad" (unless its a banana cupcake... I can't stand bananas)

It's food. All of it.

geebusuk

'inb4',,, 2nd roll over.

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

As far as calorie content goes, any food with 100 calories has the same calories as another food with 100 calories.
A calorie IS a calorie, you see .

fast_eddie_72

'inb4',,, 2nd roll over.

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

As far as calorie content goes, any food with 100 calories has the same calories as another food with 100 calories.
A calorie IS a calorie, you see .

Yeah. So I said. Over and over. I didn't ask "as far as calorie content goes". I asked if all food is the same.

DamePiglet

'inb4',,, 2nd roll over.

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

As far as calorie content goes, any food with 100 calories has the same calories as another food with 100 calories.
A calorie IS a calorie, you see .

Yeah. So I said. Over and over. I didn't ask "as far as calorie content goes". I asked if all food is the same.

To which I answered "yes"
Food is food. Either it fits or it doesn't.

fast_eddie_72

I didn't say all food is identical - it's not.

Thank you. And thank you for the explanation. I understand what you mean when you say c=c. Just as everyone understands what I mean when i say there's more to it than that. Doesn't stop them from arguing, so I need to finish this. Not attacking you. You've been very nice to me.

Let's recap what you (the collective 'you') are saying.

Calorie is a calorie. c=c

Food is not identical. f=/=f

And we know a calorie is an amount of food.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/calorie

2b - "an amount of food having an energy-producing value of one large calorie"

c=f

Who's argument is illogical?

c=c, c=f, but f=/=f?

All I said was, leaving it at c=c is misleading.

fast_eddie_72

'inb4',,, 2nd roll over.

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

As far as calorie content goes, any food with 100 calories has the same calories as another food with 100 calories.
A calorie IS a calorie, you see .

Yeah. So I said. Over and over. I didn't ask "as far as calorie content goes". I asked if all food is the same.

To which I answered "yes"
Food is food. Either it fits or it doesn't.

lol And then you said.

I didn't say all food is identical - it's not.

Food is food. Except for when it's not. Got it.

geebusuk

. I asked if all food is the same.

The same in what way?

Go deep enough and no two things are the same.

Yet most humans would accept that if there was two mugs coming off a production line they were basically the 'same'.

So could you frame the question with more detail?

A calorie is NOT an amount of food.
A calorie is an amount of ENERGY which a food may contain.

I can have a jar which has 100ml of water and another which has 100ml of gold in.
They are BOTH 100ml. A millilitre is a millilitre.
However, one is considerably more valuable than the other.
One will quench thirst better.

neanderthin

fast_eddie_72

Go deep enough and no two things are the same.

Except calories. Which are always identical. You're making perfect sense. I can now see where I was wrong. lol

DamePiglet

'inb4',,, 2nd roll over.

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

As far as calorie content goes, any food with 100 calories has the same calories as another food with 100 calories.
A calorie IS a calorie, you see .

Yeah. So I said. Over and over. I didn't ask "as far as calorie content goes". I asked if all food is the same.

To which I answered "yes"
Food is food. Either it fits or it doesn't.

lol And then you said.

I didn't say all food is identical - it's not.

Food is food. Except for when it's not. Got it.

Yeah, strong argument.
Nice trolling.

fast_eddie_72

A calorie is NOT an amount of food.
A calorie is an amount of ENERGY which a food may contain.

It is. I should have posted the link. Oh I did. It's both. That's English for ya.

fast_eddie_72

'inb4',,, 2nd roll over.

Wow. That slowed the clever responses down. Simple question. Is all food the same or not? It's been answered many times in this thread. I think maybe everyone sees where I'm going with this.

(edit) I'ma go do... things now. I'll check back later. Thought this would go a lot faster. Sure were plenty of responses before I asked that question. lol We're almost there folks. Let's get a few replies. Just need to establish if f=f.

As far as calorie content goes, any food with 100 calories has the same calories as another food with 100 calories.
A calorie IS a calorie, you see .

Yeah. So I said. Over and over. I didn't ask "as far as calorie content goes". I asked if all food is the same.

To which I answered "yes"
Food is food. Either it fits or it doesn't.

lol And then you said.

I didn't say all food is identical - it's not.

Food is food. Except for when it's not. Got it.

Yeah, strong argument.
Nice trolling.

TROLLING?!?!? Have you read this thread at all? Hell, I'm the least troll like person posing in it! I've had every measure of BS thrown at me. And people have said over and over again that while a calorie is a calorie, not all food is the same. lol Trolling. Yeah. Everyone here knows exactly what I meant, agrees with me, and knows I'm right, yet continued to attack me. And I'm a troll. Good Lord. You have GOT to be kidding me.

I've made my point and proved it. I declare myself the winner of the internet. Good Night. And good luck.

geebusuk

It is. I should have posted the link. Oh I did. It's both. That's English for ya.

I do not believe that anyone but you here is thinking of it as a 'unit of food' rather than a 'unit of energy'.

Got that link again to show a calorie means something different to a unit of energy?