Students forced to give passwords...

Options
1…5681011…14

Replies

  • TheWinman
    TheWinman Posts: 700 Member
    Options
    You may think they don't have one, good chance they do!
    Well, my daughter is 10 and begs for one. We won't let her until middle school. I don't think there's "a good chance she has one" that I don't know about. She has no access to a computer at home, she has a non-smart cell phone that she only uses when I let her, and she doesn't have access to FB at school. Not sure how else she'd have one. My 12 year old son has one that only I know the password to (he doesn't even know it). He uses it in front of me only. I'm quite sure he doesn't have a secret one elsewhere because he's got no access.

    I was talking about a 13 year old in this case, most 13 year olds have them and many parents don't know they do. :)
    I've been in IT security most of my life and I do seminars for parents in our HS district "ONline safety and our children" You would be surprised.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Options
    Then a first grader (6 years old) was expelled and charged with sexual harassment for singing "I'm sexy and I Know it" at school.. WTF ? all of this is WRONG and it is up to the parents to advocate for our children. If we do not do it, no one will!!
    Are you talking about the story in the news lately, or someone you know personally at your school? The one I saw on the news had WAY more to the story than what initially came out. That little boy had been reprimanded for singing songs with sexual lyrics before. He's been in trouble for touching girls inapprpriately before. It was NOT for just singing that song.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Options
    a village" all you like but it is the PARENT'S responsibility to raise the children in the manner they choose. NO ONE ELSE has that right. I am so thankful most of my grandchildren are home schooled!!
    What if the parents aren't taking that responsibility? What if the parents are strung out on drugs and never home? What if the kids are left to take care of themselves all night because the parents are out? It's great that most of your grandchildren have wonderful parents who can homeschool them. Not all children are that blessed.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Options
    I was talking about a 13 year old in this case, most 13 year olds have them and many parents don't know they do. :)
    I would guess these are parents who don't monitor computer or smart phone use very well! Or these are kids who are always at a friend's house and using a friend's computer with no supervision or monitoring.
  • TheWinman
    TheWinman Posts: 700 Member
    Options
    I was talking about a 13 year old in this case, most 13 year olds have them and many parents don't know they do. :)
    I would guess these are parents who don't monitor computer or smart phone use very well! Or these are kids who are always at a friend's house and using a friend's computer with no supervision or monitoring.

    Very true! It's amazing how parents at their friend's house reaaly don't watch what's going on.

    Also regarding cellphones. I know at high schools kids can go the phone guy and get a prepaid cellphone no problem. The phone guy use to be the concert ticket guy. lol
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Options
    It's amazing how parents at their friend's house reaaly don't watch what's going on.
    I know! I'm even more "on top of it" when our kids have friends over. I would hate to be "that house" where they watched porn or made FB pages, or smoked cigarrettes....haha (I have 5 children, ages 25-10)!
  • dlpnrn2b
    dlpnrn2b Posts: 441 Member
    Options
    Then a first grader (6 years old) was expelled and charged with sexual harassment for singing "I'm sexy and I Know it" at school.. WTF ? all of this is WRONG and it is up to the parents to advocate for our children. If we do not do it, no one will!!
    Are you talking about the story in the news lately, or someone you know personally at your school? The one I saw on the news had WAY more to the story than what initially came out. That little boy had been reprimanded for singing songs with sexual lyrics before. He's been in trouble for touching girls inapprpriately before. It was NOT for just singing that song.

    no, I am talking about my school . I am not aware of a story on the news.
  • vwrynn
    vwrynn Posts: 6
    Options
    The name of the school makes it sound like a public school, which is funded by the government. Time to introduce your kids to the US Constitution and the 1st, 4th and 5th amendments. Private organizations are not so bound.
    * Amendment 1 - people have the freedom of speech and press - they can express their opinions.
    * Amendment 4 - people may be secure in their houses, papers and persons.
    * Amendment 5 - people have the right to not incriminate themselves.
    They are not required to divulge the password (protected by 5th amendment as of this writing - subject to change later this year). I would ask the principal for a copy of his warrant.

    In searching the Internet, I see this is becoming a common occurence. I think the best policy is for your kids to say nothing except to request the presence of their parents. Be polite, but say nothing except to request the presence of their parents.

    I'm sorry this happened to you.

    ~V
  • SandiBren
    SandiBren Posts: 33 Member
    Options
    I guess I'm the odd one out but as far as I'm concerned I'd have no issue with the schools having passwords to my child's fb....it would cut down on all the social bullying plus I want my kids protected and if they want to help keep an extra eye then fine by me. If your child is as " behaved" as you think, why would there be an issue.

    We, unfortunately, have found that some of the worst bullies at the school are teachers. Not all, by any means, but there are teachers out there on major power trips. And we all knew who they were.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Options
    a village" all you like but it is the PARENT'S responsibility to raise the children in the manner they choose. NO ONE ELSE has that right. I am so thankful most of my grandchildren are home schooled!!
    What if the parents aren't taking that responsibility? What if the parents are strung out on drugs and never home? What if the kids are left to take care of themselves all night because the parents are out? It's great that most of your grandchildren have wonderful parents who can homeschool them. Not all children are that blessed.
    Considering that the mother is involved in this case, clearly the kid has a parent who cares. If the school thinks the parents are neglecting or abusing their children or out all night doing drugs, the school should be calling child protective services, not demanding the kid give up a password the school has no right to.

    Sometimes I wonder if you possess a lick of common sense. Seriously.
  • dlpnrn2b
    dlpnrn2b Posts: 441 Member
    Options
    The name of the school makes it sound like a public school, which is funded by the government. Time to introduce your kids to the US Constitution and the 1st, 4th and 5th amendments. Private organizations are not so bound.
    * Amendment 1 - people have the freedom of speech and press - they can express their opinions.
    * Amendment 4 - people may be secure in their houses, papers and persons.
    * Amendment 5 - people have the right to not incriminate themselves.
    They are not required to divulge the password (protected by 5th amendment as of this writing - subject to change later this year). I would ask the principal for a copy of his warrant.

    In searching the Internet, I see this is becoming a common occurence. I think the best policy is for your kids to say nothing except to request the presence of their parents. Be polite, but say nothing except to request the presence of their parents.

    I'm sorry this happened to you.

    ~V

    well put!!
  • LauraMacNCheese
    LauraMacNCheese Posts: 7,198 Member
    Options
    I was talking about a 13 year old in this case, most 13 year olds have them and many parents don't know they do. :)
    I would guess these are parents who don't monitor computer or smart phone use very well! Or these are kids who are always at a friend's house and using a friend's computer with no supervision or monitoring.

    Very true! It's amazing how parents at their friend's house reaaly don't watch what's going on.

    Also regarding cellphones. I know at high schools kids can go the phone guy and get a prepaid cellphone no problem. The phone guy use to be the concert ticket guy. lol

    Sorry, I know this is a serious topic; but this comment made me instantly think of Damone from Fast Times @ Ridgemont High, LOL!
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Options
    Considering that the mother is involved in this case, clearly the kid has a parent who cares. If the school thinks the parents are neglecting or abusing their children or out all night doing drugs, the school should be calling child protective services, not demanding the kid give up a password the school has no right to.

    Sometimes I wonder if you possess a lick of common sense. Seriously.
    No....we strayed from the OP and got on to other issues. My recent comments ahve nothing to do with the OP. And if you followed along correctly, you'd see that my most recent comment that you replied to was actually to a grandmother speaking about her own grandchildren. I wouldn't insult you by saying you lack common sense, but you sure don't know how to follow a thread. If you want to debate in one, you should really keep up with the discussion.
  • JoolieW68
    JoolieW68 Posts: 1,879 Member
    Options
    You may think they don't have one, good chance they do!
    Well, my daughter is 10 and begs for one. We won't let her until middle school. I don't think there's "a good chance she has one" that I don't know about. She has no access to a computer at home, she has a non-smart cell phone that she only uses when I let her, and she doesn't have access to FB at school. Not sure how else she'd have one. My 12 year old son has one that only I know the password to (he doesn't even know it). He uses it in front of me only. I'm quite sure he doesn't have a secret one elsewhere because he's got no access.

    Do you realize your 12 year old had to lie about their age to open the FB account? Terms of service require age of 13.
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    Options
    Hell no!! Even kids have a right to privacy!
  • TheWinman
    TheWinman Posts: 700 Member
    Options
    I was talking about a 13 year old in this case, most 13 year olds have them and many parents don't know they do. :)
    I would guess these are parents who don't monitor computer or smart phone use very well! Or these are kids who are always at a friend's house and using a friend's computer with no supervision or monitoring.

    Very true! It's amazing how parents at their friend's house reaaly don't watch what's going on.

    Also regarding cellphones. I know at high schools kids can go the phone guy and get a prepaid cellphone no problem. The phone guy use to be the concert ticket guy. lol

    Sorry, I know this is a serious topic; but this comment made me instantly think of Damone from Fast Times @ Ridgemont High, LOL!
    LOL, great reference. But that's it, schools have that guy who can get them cellphones.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Options
    Do you realize your 12 year old had to lie about their age to open the FB account? Terms of service require age of 13.
    He's autistic and it was recommended by his support group. He and other autistic friends at his school have one so they can learn to "cyper socialize" (that's one of their struggles). We contacted FB about it to find out the issues because of the TOS. Because they don't have their own passwords and can only use it with parents, we did it. I can't really tell tone of your comment, so I don't know if you're being snarky. I hope you were just asking a question. :smile:
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    Options
    My opinion? Kids under 18 don't need a facebook. They're too young. And yeah, my 13 year old 7th grader doesn't have one, either.

    But at 16 1/2 kids can get a permit and before the age of 18 have a drivers license? We can trust them in a car on the roads driving but not having the use of facebook? I would be more worried about the actual activities the kid is doing in real life rather than the postings they are making about them.
  • JoolieW68
    JoolieW68 Posts: 1,879 Member
    Options
    Do you realize your 12 year old had to lie about their age to open the FB account? Terms of service require age of 13.
    He's autistic and it was recommended by his support group. He and other autistic friends at his school have one so they can learn to "cyper socialize" (that's one of their struggles). We contacted FB about it to find out the issues because of the TOS. Because they don't have their own passwords and can only use it with parents, we did it. I can't really tell tone of your comment, so I don't know if you're being snarky. I hope you were just asking a question. :smile:

    Just asking the question. I think it's a good idea in this case.
  • TheWinman
    TheWinman Posts: 700 Member
    Options
    And for the parents who don't think it's ok for a parent to invade the privacy of your kid's facebook account or cellphone! Who pays for internet? Who pays for the cellphone?

Categories