So sad with what I saw today I wanted to cry

Ocarina

One time I saw a lady STRUGGLING to get into the bank. Why? Not because she was over weight.... she was but mainly because her lower stomach sagged below her knees. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen because it was a mix of absolute struggle + I had no idea the human body could even end up like that. I felt so bad for her. I hope that someday she will be able to have a better life.

Romans624

All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)

Megafacepalm!

The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.

We need a serious Sarcasm 101 class on mfp....people are too uptight to even recognize when it is happenening

I don't always notice sarcasm. Maybe i should be written in pink. lol. You are right... if people are looking at it to be serious they won't pick up sarcasm.

ShareeMorty

All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)

Megafacepalm!

The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.

We need a serious Sarcasm 101 class on mfp....people are too uptight to even recognize when it is happenening

A sarcasm font would help - so hard to tell with some of the people on here what is serious and what is not. Now that I know is sarcasm *doffs hat* well played

mamaomefo

"This is the one body I have and I do everything possible to keep it in the best of shape." Don Ameche"

dyskras

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Bobby_Clerici

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

LadyAmy20

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

I agree, thank you for sharing :flowerforyou:

tmauck4472

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

Her experiance and hers alone, not everyone experiances this. And I seriously doubt Starvation mode played a part in any of her issue because it's a myth. I see people every day eating less than me and have no issues like this. Everyone is different and reacts differently to things. Lost any confindence in the post as soon as Starvation mode was mentioned.

raystark

All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)

Megafacepalm!

The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.

We need a serious Sarcasm 101 class on mfp....people are too uptight to even recognize when it is happenening

A sarcasm font would help - so hard to tell with some of the people on here what is serious and what is not. Now that I know is sarcasm *doffs hat* well played

I find that a smiley can be quite helpful at times.

dyskras

No. It's not my experience alone. Five seconds on Google or in a weight loss group and you will hear the same thing.

And multiple doctors, nutritionists, agreed what I did to my body caused the majority of my problems.

I did not criticize you but you already have an attitude with me.

I had no problems during the initial weight loss - it was after when everything started piling up on me. I am literally the voice of experience and you are going LALALALA.

You're going to do what you are going to do. I wish you all the best and hope you don't have these problems.

Thanks for the kind words from others. I just don't want people to go through what I did and still do.

Starvation mode is real. Research it. Logic dictates your body needs fuel to run.

If you choose to ignore it - well I have no doubt you will see the consequences in the end. I still wish you luck.

tmauck4472

"This is the one body I have and I do everything possible to keep it in the best of shape." Don Ameche"

Which is exactly why I'm doing what I'm doing.

oregonzoo

No. It's not my experience alone. Five seconds on Google or in a weight loss group and you will hear the same thing.

And multiple doctors, nutritionists, agreed what I did to my body caused the majority of my problems.

I did not criticize you but you already have an attitude with me.

I had no problems during the initial weight loss - it was after when everything started piling up on me. I am literally the voice of experience and you are going LALALALA.

You're going to do what you are going to do. I wish you all the best and hope you don't have these problems.

Thanks for the kind words from others. I just don't want people to go through what I did and still do.

Starvation mode is real. Research it. Logic dictates your body needs fuel to run.

If you choose to ignore it - well I have no doubt you will see the consequences in the end. I still wish you luck.

I commend your post and your honesty. I also agree that takes a lot of bravery. It's quite unfortunate that some people refuse to listen. You're doing it the right way now!

oregonzoo

For the hundreth time, I DO NOT NOW NOR WLL I EVER HAVE AN ED. I don't want to be 80 lbs. I don't want even to be skinny, just smaller, and omg dare I say healthier. I will get there, at my rate with my own decisions. I have to do it my way.

anyone at any weight can have an eating disorder.

Thank you.

ShareeMorty

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

Her experiance and hers alone, not everyone experiances this. And I seriously doubt Starvation mode played a part in any of her issue because it's a myth. I see people every day eating less than me and have no issues like this. Everyone is different and reacts differently to things. Lost any confindence in the post as soon as Starvation mode was mentioned.

Am going to refrain from saying what I want to, but will say that starvation mode is a myth - starvation is not! You my girl need to see a psychologist stat.

Rhea30

"This is the one body I have and I do everything possible to keep it in the best of shape." Don Ameche"

Which is exactly why I'm doing what I'm doing.

Why are you eating such low calories? What is your reasoning behind it?

ironanimal

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

Her experiance and hers alone, not everyone experiances this. And I seriously doubt Starvation mode played a part in any of her issue because it's a myth. I see people every day eating less than me and have no issues like this. Everyone is different and reacts differently to things. Lost any confindence in the post as soon as Starvation mode was mentioned.

Starvation mode isn't a myth, it's a misnomer. It just encompasses a whole host of negative symptoms from eating too little over an extended period of time; metabolic slowdown, organ damage, hair loss etc etc. The term itself is misleading but the effects of it are very, very real.

tmauck4472

The OP admits that she has opened her diary in order to instigate arguments because she wants to defend her VLCD. She doesn't need you defending her.
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Thanks for putting words in my mouth because that is NOT what I said. Love how people are making up stories now. What I said is I keep my diary open because I don't care who sees it and can defend my decisons on how I eat should someone feel the need to comment on it. Never said a thing about instigating anything you said that. So now this thread has taken another WRONG turn by people making up lies, Sheeesh

tmauck4472

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

Her experiance and hers alone, not everyone experiances this. And I seriously doubt Starvation mode played a part in any of her issue because it's a myth. I see people every day eating less than me and have no issues like this. Everyone is different and reacts differently to things. Lost any confindence in the post as soon as Starvation mode was mentioned.

Starvation mode isn't a myth, it's a misnomer. It just encompasses a whole host of negative symptoms from eating too little over an extended period of time; metabolic slowdown, organ damage, hair loss etc etc. The term itself is misleading but the effects of it are very, very real.

Myth..you believe what you want I'll believe what I want.

findfan4ever

Obesity is a thief of life and its fullness.

Anyone making consistent efforts to change and to achieve better health and happiness is doing a great thing for themselves.

Amen to this!

ironanimal

Starvation mode isn't a myth, it's a misnomer. It just encompasses a whole host of negative symptoms from eating too little over an extended period of time; metabolic slowdown, organ damage, hair loss etc etc. The term itself is misleading but the effects of it are very, very real.

Myth..you believe what you want I'll believe what I want.

Right. Because nobody has ever gotten ill by eating too little, for too long.

findfan4ever

I was picking my son up from summer school today and I saw this woman walking (yea for her, right?). She had to be 400 lbs or better and you could see she was struggling with walking. She had that gait that you know is her struggling to walk, I know cause I've been there. I wanted to cry for her, for me, for everyone who's been there or is there now. I am so excited for where I am right now. There are so many out there saying your eating to low , your going to fail, you can't live on that, your heading toward an eating disorder...I say to you, I am fine, I have goal and I will reach it, in spite of you, but maybe just maybe because of you. I never want to go back to that person struggling to lose weight, struggling to walk down the street.

In my personal training days, I saw several individuals like this. I never felt sorry for them (nor did they want me to), but I felt an enormous amount of compassion for them. NONE of the other trainers wanted to help them ...... NONE. I met them where they were at and worked with them to achieve their goals. I really feel for these individuals, nor do I judge them. I can't imagine the daily physical and emotional battles they must face every day ..... the stares, the comments, being discouraged, feelings of shame, etc.

This woman was truly brave and I pray she will continue her quest to loose weight and live a healthy lifestyle.

I have met some incredible individuals while personal training. We all can learn to be more compassionate and non-judgmental.

Bottom line: We are all beautiful sons and daughters of God and should treat others as such.

tmauck4472

All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)

WOW Good for you and the young one. I don't have the energy of a 3 year old, but I have more today than I did in January. I don't dread starting work next December because I know I'll be able to keep up with everything they throw at me. I don't burn as many calories as a 3 year old does, maybe you should consider feeding the child more because I'm sure he/she is burning more than they are taking in and may have an ED very soon because of it. Doc told my cousin a tablespoon of PB a day will help to keep her son's calories up because he didn't want to eat anything. Maybe you should try that see if it works.

findfan4ever

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this. That took courage. I hope people can learn from your experience.

I agree, thank you for sharing :flowerforyou:

I agree with the past two posters. That took a lot of courage for you to say what you have struggled with. Those who say there is nothing wrong with starvation diets really need to do some research on the topic.

You are a living example of what starvation diets can do and I applaud you on going about it the right way now.

supplemama

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Oh my dear! I feel so bad for you that you had to go through this but I thank you for sharing what happened to you. I've been frustrated at the rate of my weight loss (I want this weight off of me, like NOW) but I realize it's not coming off overnight...it's taken me 6 months just to get out of obesity range. I will keep your experience in mind when I feel tempted to reduce my calories below what is recommended to try to lose the rest of my weight faster.

Your words were not in vain. You've saved one person today. Thank you.

beansprouts

I think her weight loss plan is unhealthy. I don't think she's an idiot. It may be "clear" to you that I "think OP is because she doesn't agree", but I've personally struggled with anorexia/bulimia for years, and while my eating has had some very unhealthy aspects to it, I don't think of myself as an "idiot" for it. Nor do I think the OP is an "idiot". So if you want to put words like "idiot" in my mouth because it's so clear to you that I'm thinking it, perhaps you could change your perspective and try to understand that I'm speaking as a person who once had a diary that looked exactly like the OP's, who is now trying to repair a ruined metabolism, and not exactly thrilled with the idea of defending VLCD. I have no intention to call her names or to insult her intelligence. A person can be wrong without being stupid.

The OP admits that she has opened her diary in order to instigate arguments because she wants to defend her VLCD. She doesn't need you defending her.

Sad to say...but if you suffered from years of anorexia/bulimia then it seems more likely then not that you (not OP) are the one with an unhealthy perspective about weight and weight loss in general. Your condition is controllable but it is not curable...So since you needed to expose everything that you felt was unhealthy about OP's behavior....Maybe you would like to explain (in a healthy fashion)...How exactly a "supposedly" healthy person (recovering?) from anorexia/bulimia ends up once again trying to lose weight on an internet weight loss site? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones....LIVE AND LET LIVE!

dyskras

Aww. Wow. Thank you everyone for the kind words. I'm still learning. I'm still sorting it all out but I'm getting there. The end goal is weight loss obviously - but more importantly I want to do what I can to 'fix' (as much as possible) my body and change the way I eat/live. I want to be a good example for my son and I want to be around for 100 years at least to annoy the hell out of him! :P

I really did post out of concern for the OP but not going to drag myself into it. I've seen what can happen and not just to me.

amersmanders

Totally anecdata.

I lost around 115lbs on 700-800 a day and lots of excercise.

I now have serious intestinal issues, stomach issues, thyroid issues, along with other serious problems etc. I was healthier 'fatter' before I lost all the weight starvation mode then I was when I made it to 'skinny'

Then I gained it all back. Now I am losing it all the right way - moderation. I may not be anywhere near the 'perfect' diet - but losing it slowly while getting enough calories and adjusting to fill my nutritional needs as best as I can is how I am doing it now and it is going damn well.

I don't believe 1200 is a magic number, but I just don't wish to see someone fall apart the way I did after losing weight that way.

Thank you for sharing this! Hopefully it will be eye opening to those who want to lose weight the dangerous way.

cloud2011

I was in the gym in feb when i noticed a woman who was about a size 20. where I used to be a few years back. I went up to her and said Im so proud of you for taking back your life! I told her about mfp, sometimes she is on here sometimes not, but I want to give people hope that they can do this the right way. I have told multiple friends about this site. my husband found it for me and eventually he joined also! I want everyone to be healthy, so they can be around for their families! so next time think, hey maybe she needs the encouragement to keep going! it takes me a lot to put it out there and tell people what I am doing. most of them are supportive and see how great of results I am getting that they want to hear about it. and I am happy to explain.

If I were that woman, I would have taken offense to someone trying to tell me how to do this "the right way." In my 20s, I lifted regularly and was in fantastic shape, 30s exercised frequently, early 40s, lifted again, with lots of cardio. Then I had to make a lot of job and personal changes, and unfortunately, I was creeping toward a larger size.

All I can say is never assume you know someone's history and their knowledge (or lack of) regarding nutrition and fitness. I mean, what if the size 20 woman you approached had already lost 100 lbs and was working out for a year @ 5-6 days a week?

I understand you mean well, and that's nice, but I think it works much better to be encouraging without the pep talk about taking back your life.

Cold_Steel

I am going to hop on the judging train on this one. 700 calories is just not good for you. I can only speak from personal experience and I knew someone I say "KNEW" because she is dead now but I knew someone who starved herself. She started around 250 went to a 500-800 calorie diet was on it for about 9 months lost 115 lbs.

She attempted to eat around 1500 calories after she had lost the weight and she got VERY ill, really bad thyroid issues she ended up dying at 42 of a heart attack that the doctors contributed to a combination of several factors relating to her thyroid, her constant up and down dieting. She got cold sweats constantly leading up to it, blood pressure through the roof. Her doctors even diagnosed her with a eating disorder and tried to force her to counseling... She was on a handful of medication and on her last day on earth she suffered from a heart attack and stroke...

Rhea30

The OP admits that she has opened her diary in order to instigate arguments because she wants to defend her VLCD. She doesn't need you defending her.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth because that is NOT what I said. Love how people are making up stories now. What I said is I keep my diary open because I don't care who sees it and can defend my decisons on how I eat should someone feel the need to comment on it. Never said a thing about instigating anything you said that. So now this thread has taken another WRONG turn by people making up lies, Sheeesh

Just in case you missed me asking (and I apologize if I had missed an answer), why do you eat such low calories? Is it for quick weight loss? Medical reasons? If you can't lose weight on 1200 calories then you should see a doctor since there could be a medical problem. What is the reasoning behind such a low calorie diet?