So sad with what I saw today I wanted to cry
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two things wrong with this... 1. I never used the word idiot, you did, go back and check and 2. I'm not defending her so to speak, just wondering why everyone has to be so negative about things that don't even directly affect them.
this is a message board. people state their opinions(positive and negative) on the topics at hand. like a thread on Jerry Sandusky, I would post negative things about his actions even though they dont directly affect me.0 -
Tis true, but in those 800-1000 calories, as a bariatric patient, you need more than 80grams of protein.
I am curious about 80? Is that regardless of their size, or does it vary with how heavy they are?
Yes regardless of size - you need protein for all levels of cellular function, if you have no protein intake you risk major health problems.0 -
Working in a Wellness Center I see it on a daily basis and it's disheartening. We have people in the gym that "whine" about being a size 10 and what these people wouldn't give to be a size 16.
Yesterday I did a weight room orientation for a female who has gastric bypass and it was just such a struggle to get into some of the open seated machines. I had to remind her that it will be hard the first month or so, but as she gets results, it will get easier.
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It seems its human nature to not appreciate where you are. When I was a size 8 I still would whine about not having a flat tummy... but now I would be so happy to be there! And that is so much less to complain about when you compare it to people having a hard time walking.... that really affects their quality of life in a more serious sense.
I have lost almost 30lbs and I'm more pissed now when I look in the mirror than I was 30lbs ago. I don't think it's about not appreciating anything, I think it's motivation creeping back in where it didn't live 30lbs ago. It's my drive having been awoken. It's the dragon that breathes the fire of life through me and pushes me to BE BETTER! Things don't always have to have a negative spin, and very rarely if ever when someone is blasting themselves for not trying hard enough, does it have ANYTHING to do with ANYONE else.0 -
this is a message board. people state their opinions(positive and negative) on the topics at hand.
Realizing that people have opinions on a messageboard is a lot like finding out you've been living in the Matrix
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this is a message board. people state their opinions(positive and negative) on the topics at hand.
Realizing that people have opinions on a messageboard is a lot like finding out you've been living in the Matrix
by this you mean something that happened when I was 18?0 -
Working in a Wellness Center I see it on a daily basis and it's disheartening. We have people in the gym that "whine" about being a size 10 and what these people wouldn't give to be a size 16.
Yesterday I did a weight room orientation for a female who has gastric bypass and it was just such a struggle to get into some of the open seated machines. I had to remind her that it will be hard the first month or so, but as she gets results, it will get easier.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
It seems its human nature to not appreciate where you are. When I was a size 8 I still would whine about not having a flat tummy... but now I would be so happy to be there! And that is so much less to complain about when you compare it to people having a hard time walking.... that really affects their quality of life in a more serious sense.
I have lost almost 30lbs and I'm more pissed now when I look in the mirror than I was 30lbs ago. I don't think it's about not appreciating anything, I think it's motivation creeping back in where it didn't live 30lbs ago. It's my drive having been awoken. It's the dragon that breathes the fire of life through me and pushes me to BE BETTER! Things don't always have to have a negative spin, and very rarely if ever when someone is blasting themselves for not trying hard enough, does it have ANYTHING to do with ANYONE else.
That's true, I think when I get to goal size I will still always have things I want to improve upon and without new goals, regressing is more of a risk.0 -
Working in a Wellness Center I see it on a daily basis and it's disheartening. We have people in the gym that "whine" about being a size 10 and what these people wouldn't give to be a size 16.
Yesterday I did a weight room orientation for a female who has gastric bypass and it was just such a struggle to get into some of the open seated machines. I had to remind her that it will be hard the first month or so, but as she gets results, it will get easier.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
It seems its human nature to not appreciate where you are. When I was a size 8 I still would whine about not having a flat tummy... but now I would be so happy to be there! And that is so much less to complain about when you compare it to people having a hard time walking.... that really affects their quality of life in a more serious sense.
I have lost almost 30lbs and I'm more pissed now when I look in the mirror than I was 30lbs ago. I don't think it's about not appreciating anything, I think it's motivation creeping back in where it didn't live 30lbs ago. It's my drive having been awoken. It's the dragon that breathes the fire of life through me and pushes me to BE BETTER! Things don't always have to have a negative spin, and very rarely if ever when someone is blasting themselves for not trying hard enough, does it have ANYTHING to do with ANYONE else.
That's true, I think when I get to goal size I will still always have things I want to improve upon and without new goals, regressing is more of a risk.
Be a SHARK....If you stop moving you die!0 -
You have a goal and you'll reach it.
Then you'll put it all back on.
Plus a bit more.
Why?
Because there's just no way in hell you'll be able to eat that little sustainably for the rest of your life.
I'll love it if you prove me wrong.
I've heard the number 95% a few times about all dieters gaining weight back on. Certain factors like exercising regularly, tracking food intake and the like are indicators of who will be successful. I am doing those things.
The difference between who keeps it off and who does not is whether they have a commitment to improvement and lifelong health or not. Whether they let themselves "relax" when they are done.
You aren't committing to health now with the "diet plan" you are using, so that theory is bunk from the start.
You are starving yourself in an effort to be thin..and it will backfire. When - who knows...but it will. Maybe you won't gain back the weight..but I am willing to bet your body is missing out on key nutrients / minerals / vitamins that it CANNOT get by "burning your fat." THAT will do damage that you may not be able to reverse.0 -
ALWAYS acknowledge the person who is trying. Imagine how much courage it took for her (or for anyone who is obese) to get up and get moving.
You know what 'they' say... It takes a village.0 -
You have a goal and you'll reach it.
Then you'll put it all back on.
Plus a bit more.
Why?
Because there's just no way in hell you'll be able to eat that little sustainably for the rest of your life.
I'll love it if you prove me wrong.
I've heard the number 95% a few times about all dieters gaining weight back on. Certain factors like exercising regularly, tracking food intake and the like are indicators of who will be successful. I am doing those things.
The difference between who keeps it off and who does not is whether they have a commitment to improvement and lifelong health or not. Whether they let themselves "relax" when they are done.
You aren't committing to health now with the "diet plan" you are using, so that theory is bunk from the start.
You are starving yourself in an effort to be thin..and it will backfire. When - who knows...but it will. Maybe you won't gain back the weight..but I am willing to bet your body is missing out on key nutrients / minerals / vitamins that it CANNOT get by "burning your fat." THAT will do damage that you may not be able to reverse.
Thanks, but you really don't know the whole story and haven't haven't seen my diary. There are also plenty of people on here getting more calories or carbs than I, but way less nutrition. Pretty much everything I eat right now is nutritious, not a bunch of fluff filler just for taste. I agree with some of what you are saying in general, but you don't know that much about me. I have just as good a chance as anyone to succeed... because I have a plan for the long term. I am only eating lower carb for now to get out of the morbid obesity range, perhaps partly out of the obesity range not sure. I definitely plan, to proceed to Atkins phase 2 and 3 and I am rooting for myself even if people from your perspective think I'm more likely to fail. Thanks for your opinion though.0 -
All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)0
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this is a message board. people state their opinions(positive and negative) on the topics at hand.
Realizing that people have opinions on a messageboard is a lot like finding out you've been living in the Matrix
Don't you dare insinuate my steak isn't real! *gasp*0 -
you don't know your story. You and a lot of other people started judging her b/c she ate 700 cal. You don't know her story/history..Doctors (like bariatric surgery ones) prescribe 800 calorie diets. Its okay for morbidly obese people, certain considerations taken, until they reach a more reasonable weight. And you better not forget the bacon!
Absolutely it's okay. Short term and under medical supervision. Is she doing it short term or under medical supervision?0 -
Love your compassion!!! Thanks for sharing!!:flowerforyou:0
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All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)
Megafacepalm!
The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.0 -
ALWAYS acknowledge the person who is trying. Imagine how much courage it took for her (or for anyone who is obese) to get up and get moving.
You know what 'they' say... It takes a village.
Good idea. Good intentions. This is just not the village we hope for at times!
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All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)
Megafacepalm!
The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.
I am hoping this was not meant to be taken seriously.0 -
All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)
Megafacepalm!
The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.
I am hoping this was not meant to be taken seriously.
If it was - that scares me!0 -
All i'm going to say is I watch a 3 yr old who eats about 800 or so cals a day....more on some days....and she's really skinny*like a super flat tummy and hardly any body fat* So if it works for a 3 yr old I'm sure it will work just as well for a 25 or 50 yr old:)
Megafacepalm!
The calorie requirements for a toddler and an adult - completely different. Read some research.
We need a serious Sarcasm 101 class on mfp....people are too uptight to even recognize when it is happenening0 -
I'm a radio announcer and recently read a story that 90% of women exercise inside and sometimes in the dark so that no one sees them. So for this lady to be outside ...living her life and trying to get stronger....I applaud her and pray she continues to get stronger and feel better and continues to stay confident about exercising outside....or just continues to take care of herself!
I read the first page of posts and you guys are awesome~!
Makes me tear up too!0
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