Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out

marsviolet

This just seems completely insane to me. I live in Australia and while I'm not saying that bad things don't happen here it has NEVER occurred to me that I would need any sort of weapon while excercising. Let alone a GUN. And I am extremely grateful that the other people excercising around me don't have guns either. Jeez.

126siany

I live in Canada. That stuff doesn't happen here. I'd be more worried about being run down by someone talking on their cell phone.

I live in Australia and it's pretty safe here, plus it's a lot harder to get a gun license here than it is in USA I think. Over here hardly anyone owns a gun!

However, it's generally not the LEGAL gun owners you have to worry about, it's the criminals that obtain their guns ILLEGALLY that are generally the problem.

There are 5 times as many firearm related deaths per capita in the USA than in Canada. There are 10 times as many in the USA as in Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I hardly think people in Australia need to worry about illegal gun owners killing them. Or, rather, it's much more likely to be killed by a legal gun owner in the US than an illegal one in Australia.

The idea that you need a gun while jogging is ridiculous. How many people have actually saved themselves from an attacker while jogging? 1 in 100 million??? Puh-lease...

--P

The US gun question crops up on here a lot. What amuses me (from the UK) is the American standard lines to justify the guns which perpetuates the problem.

In the next year I don't anticipate any likely-hood of being shot. I will drive my fancy SL anywhere - including inner city - with the roof down and I don't anticipate being car jacked. I will walk on any street at anytime and I won't get mugged. The chances of anything bad happening to me in the next twelve months are ZERO. I'm saying this just to point out the day to day reality of fear over here -- yeah sure we get some nutter every couple of years does something and it's big news. But I cant count the number of little shootings I have heard about from the US since the Batman cinema one --- it's endless

Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon. I really don't know if this is the true level of the risk - or just irrational fear - even a fear put about to justify gun ownership. (Which I am interested to hear more on)

However, I do get the point that America is in the situation it is - 'everyone' has guns and that isn't going to change.

I don't really comprehend if I drove around america with my roof down on my car am I being an idiot if I don't have a couple of guns on me or would I just believing the hype of fear?

Far fewer Americans are regularly carrying guns than you think. It's a small minority of people and even of gun owners. I grew up with guns and learned to shoot as a kid, but that's because my dad was a hunter. Never had handguns in the house, so obviously none were carried in daily activities. The guns and the ammo weren't even stored on the same floor of the house, as a matter of fact (partially due to children in the home). I never wanted to own a gun as an adult and never have. In fact, none of us kids grew up to own guns or even hunt.

The NRA (National Rifle Association) is far and away THE most powerful political lobby in the US, and work very hard to convince otherwise rational Americans that their right to own firearms is under constant threat. It isn't.

It seems to you as though most Americans carry weapons around because those worrying about losing the right to own guns post about it very frequently. Not unlike any other issue, really--the ones who are worried are more vocal than those who are content with the status quo.

ebony__

This just seems completely insane to me. I live in Australia and while I'm not saying that bad things don't happen here it has NEVER occurred to me that I would need any sort of weapon while excercising. Let alone a GUN. And I am extremely grateful that the other people excercising around me don't have guns either. Jeez.

Me too

rukus1

A note to any one running with mace and pepper spray..I'm not sure it will work on a person that is high on drugs and you have to be might close to use it...best spray to use is wasp spray it shoots straight and far..to bad the can is so large@!

half_moon

Geeze. I am SUUUURE glad I'm from Texas.

**kitten* gun*

zoeluiisa

This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read in my life.

The ignorance of people that think that everyone in America has a gun, we all run around waving them everywhere, and that people basically think that we can go to Target and buy one off the shelf.

Hilarious.

Are we so very wrong? Here's a satellite TV company offering a free gun (or pizza!) with every purchase: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/montana-radio-shack-offers-free-gun-or-pizza-with-satellite-tv-purchase/

And here's a car dealership doing the same: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7416120.stm

(WHY aren't links live on MFP?)

wellbert

That's the funny part, about the cultural differences.

Carrying a gun is really no big deal. It's just a thing. Like a cell phone, or pocket book.

aj_31

Does anyone carry a pistol with them when they run or bike? I live in a neighborhood that is not the greatest. There is a lake block from my house that has a wonderful trail. Years ago there were several assaults, some of them sexual against women. Two years ago a cop was killed a block from lake. Nothing has happened since then, at least not in the abudance it had been happening but I think I would feel safer if I got a conceal and carry permit (legal here in Minnesota). So here are my questions.

1) If you do conceal and carry while running, have you ever had any situations? i.e. causing pain because it is secured awkwardly, falling out, etc
2) If I am a jogging, how would I secure it in the best way? What piece of equipment for holstering?

I have had training with pistols, assault rifles and shotguns beyond a little personal experience so I am not a total novice with guns.

My first thought was this sounded like MN then I kept reading and saw that it was. My friend on here carries a gun strapped to her stomach while she runs. She lives in a suburb but she runs at 4am so you never know who you'll run into.

half_moon

In the next year I don't anticipate any likely-hood of being shot. I will drive my fancy SL anywhere - including inner city - with the roof down and I don't anticipate being car jacked. I will walk on any street at anytime and I won't get mugged. The chances of anything bad happening to me in the next twelve months are ZERO.

Weelll you are an idiot. Wait until it's your daughter walking around at any time of night in the inner city.

SuperstarDJ

That's the funny part, about the cultural differences.

Carrying a gun is really no big deal. It's just a thing. Like a cell phone, or pocket book.

Except you can't kill anyone - or yourself - with a cell phone or a pocket book (althoug I'm sure you could if you tried hard enough).

m60kaf

The US gun question crops up on here a lot. What amuses me (from the UK) is the American standard lines to justify the guns which perpetuates the problem.

In the next year I don't anticipate any likely-hood of being shot. I will drive my fancy SL anywhere - including inner city - with the roof down and I don't anticipate being car jacked. I will walk on any street at anytime and I won't get mugged. The chances of anything bad happening to me in the next twelve months are ZERO. I'm saying this just to point out the day to day reality of fear over here -- yeah sure we get some nutter every couple of years does something and it's big news. But I cant count the number of little shootings I have heard about from the US since the Batman cinema one --- it's endless

Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon. I really don't know if this is the true level of the risk - or just irrational fear - even a fear put about to justify gun ownership. (Which I am interested to hear more on)

However, I do get the point that America is in the situation it is - 'everyone' has guns and that isn't going to change.

I don't really comprehend if I drove around america with my roof down on my car am I being an idiot if I don't have a couple of guns on me or would I just believing the hype of fear?

I go all over the place. I don't expect to get jacked most of the time. The ODDS of something happening to me are very low (a little higher at work but that's different). Most Americans don't think it's crazy to walk to 7/11. For most Americans carrying a gun has little to do with fear. Just like the statistically few cases of firearms being used to commit mass mayhem, the number of Americans who carry out of a sense of preparedness far outnumber the Americans that carry because they believe they will be raped and murdered around every corner. I don't carry because I believe something will happen to me. I carry because if something does happen I want to be prepared for it.

I don't carry when I fly somewhere. I went to Florida last week and didn't have my gun with me for two days. I felt weird - because I've been carrying for so long - but I didn't believe I was going to die at any second. I paid attention to my surroundings. My wife and I went to Las Vegas a couple of years ago. I didn't take my gun - partially because I planned to drink heavily and don't carry under those conditions. Everything was fine. I still feel better when I'm carrying and will with very few exceptions. I also didn't take a fire extinguisher to keep in the hotel room in Florida or Las Vegas but I have them at my home.

I think you are painting a level headed view there which is probably more reality - but I still think their is a slight bias towards a feeling of an implied need to be armed which doesn't exist where I live.

With regards to "Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon" that is my ACTUAL experience of americans I knew/know. Now maybe I'm misunderstanding this as - Why would you walk when you can drive - which is more of an obesity worry. But I'm pretty sure it was a crazy Brit safety issue!!

JustJennie1

I don't because it would be awkward and an annoyance. I've carried when walking the dog (I live out in the woods so my biggest fear is running into a bear, coyote, etc.) and while I felt safe knowing it was there it was kind of annoying. The only way I'd be able to carry when running is if I threw it in a back pack or a fanny pack and what good would that do me if I can't get at it?

SurfinBird1981

I live in Taipei...safest place EVER! Only the police have guns here! Prior to this I lived in the nicest, quaint village in the UK, no gun required there either

wellbert

That's the funny part, about the cultural differences.

Carrying a gun is really no big deal. It's just a thing. Like a cell phone, or pocket book.

Except you can't kill anyone - or yourself - with a cell phone or a pocket book (althoug I'm sure you could if you tried hard enough).

I can kill someone with my bare hands, though. Or my car. Very easily, many people.
That's where the big disconnect is - It's just a utility to be owned responsibly. Nobody thinks they are in the wild west.

(And if they do, they should leave it at home...)



(And, fwiw, I don't own or feel like I need to own a gun. I might consider it, if I spent a lot of time hiking in mountain lion country. Although they are sneaky. At least the gun would give them indigestion.)

MrsSWW

Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

I am very glad I live in Europe!

Ditto!

JustJennie1

Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

I am very glad I live in Europe!

Because Europe doesn't have any crime? :huh:

GemaG

Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

I am very glad I live in Europe!

Ditto!

Me too!!!

peinek

can we open carry in MN i haven't lived their in 7 years but next year i'll be be back i'm just curious

vfnmoody

I understand the OP has most likely tuned out by now but I would suggest he set up a little test for himself before he invests in a carry weapon for running. I think it might help to get a feeling of your competence with the hand gun at the end of the run.t would Be a shame to go for a run and end up being robed after you shot yourself in the foot. I know I can't work a TV remote right after a hard run I cant imagine try to use a hand gun.

MrDude_1

Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

I am very glad I live in Europe!

Ditto!

It is comforting in Europe... Because when a small group of punks try to rob some American tourists with a small pocket knife they REALLY are not expecting to be told no.... by the universal language of looking down a big bore.


and no.. I didn't have mine, as I couldn't there. Thankfully I had a friend employed by the US government, and he can have it there.

ksemien

Good question and answers. I do not carry mine when running for a number of reasons, but some of the ways to conceal and links are something to look into. I am always concerned about safety as well, but as of now, I just carry a cllp on of pepper spray.

smantha32

I have my concealed carry license but I don't walk with one yet.. I haven't found one light enough that i like. I do take mace though.

Jenn728

I'm not sure about for men, but I have seen compression shorts with built in holsters for women. As soon as I get my permit for a concealed weapon, I plan on getting a pair of those shorts.

angels960

Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?

I am very glad I live in Europe!

LOL me too I have never heard anything like it

Cold_Steel

In all honesty I wouldnt really carry in a body touching holster for the fact that unless you get a really good neoprene or nylon holster the sweat is going to damage and or wear down a lot of the components. I would go for a fanny pack or water pack style -

Yeah they might flop around a bit but unless your running in the fall or winter and can have bigger clothes on I think concealing becomes an issue.

Its dependent on your local laws. Me personally I just try to always have my dog with me / knife ./ cell phone etc. I have carried a few times in areas I was unfamiliar with but I do not have any smaller firearms other than full frame semi's

tasiamere

My stepfather bought me this holster and had an additional clip thing added to it. I just clip it to the inside of my hoodie pocket. I have a small .38 special and it works.

RGv2

The US gun question crops up on here a lot. What amuses me (from the UK) is the American standard lines to justify the guns which perpetuates the problem.

In the next year I don't anticipate any likely-hood of being shot. I will drive my fancy SL anywhere - including inner city - with the roof down and I don't anticipate being car jacked. I will walk on any street at anytime and I won't get mugged. The chances of anything bad happening to me in the next twelve months are ZERO. I'm saying this just to point out the day to day reality of fear over here -- yeah sure we get some nutter every couple of years does something and it's big news. But I cant count the number of little shootings I have heard about from the US since the Batman cinema one --- it's endless

Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon. I really don't know if this is the true level of the risk - or just irrational fear - even a fear put about to justify gun ownership. (Which I am interested to hear more on)

However, I do get the point that America is in the situation it is - 'everyone' has guns and that isn't going to change.

I don't really comprehend if I drove around america with my roof down on my car am I being an idiot if I don't have a couple of guns on me or would I just believing the hype of fear?

I go all over the place. I don't expect to get jacked most of the time. The ODDS of something happening to me are very low (a little higher at work but that's different). Most Americans don't think it's crazy to walk to 7/11. For most Americans carrying a gun has little to do with fear. Just like the statistically few cases of firearms being used to commit mass mayhem, the number of Americans who carry out of a sense of preparedness far outnumber the Americans that carry because they believe they will be raped and murdered around every corner. I don't carry because I believe something will happen to me. I carry because if something does happen I want to be prepared for it.

I don't carry when I fly somewhere. I went to Florida last week and didn't have my gun with me for two days. I felt weird - because I've been carrying for so long - but I didn't believe I was going to die at any second. I paid attention to my surroundings. My wife and I went to Las Vegas a couple of years ago. I didn't take my gun - partially because I planned to drink heavily and don't carry under those conditions. Everything was fine. I still feel better when I'm carrying and will with very few exceptions. I also didn't take a fire extinguisher to keep in the hotel room in Florida or Las Vegas but I have them at my home.

I think you are painting a level headed view there which is probably more reality - but I still think their is a slight bias towards a feeling of an implied need to be armed which doesn't exist where I live.

With regards to "Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon" that is my ACTUAL experience of americans I knew/know. Now maybe I'm misunderstanding this as - Why would you walk when you can drive - which is more of an obesity worry. But I'm pretty sure it was a crazy Brit safety issue!!

A slight bias towards feeling a need to be armed.

Are you F'ing kidding me. You have zero idea about the US, come on...admit it.

bubmaster

such a different world you live in

RGv2

can we open carry in MN i haven't lived their in 7 years but next year i'll be be back i'm just curious

I know conceal, but you need a license.

firefly171717

THANKS!