Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out
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Nobody has ever gone stir-*kitten* crazy with a gun in a busy shopping mall... Do you think that's just a coincidence?
Not even a taxi driver or unemployed antiques dealer?0 -
A knee to the balls because it's not legal for me to carry any of that stuff
* don't crucify my if I'm wrong thats just what i think is the case here
Even a kick will do
It has more range! 0 -
Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?
I am very glad I live in Europe!
This.0 -
Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?
I am very glad I live in Europe!
^that^
What a thing to have to thnk about!
That's it, i'm moving to europe. Can't wait to live in a place without crime.
Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Obviously we have crime. We just don't go round pointing guns at each other. Or mace, or tasers. All illegal... We're not even allowed to walk around with a knife unless there's a good reason.
It's just a totally different culture.
We are, however, allowed to drink in public places and sunbathe topless on the beach
That's true, we do go waving that stuff around in public here in the colonies. Just the other day, I shocked the lady at the counter at McDonalds with my taser for trying to upsell me french fries. I'm trying to lose weight, damnit.
No, but seriously. Bad guy with a gleam in his eye has you backed into a corner.
You have in your hand a choice of one of four items:
A. Mace
B. Tazer (The neat kind that shoots prongs out)
C. Firearm
D. Nothing
Which do you pick?
A knee to the balls because it's not legal for me to carry any of that stuff
Neither would work if he sneaks up behind you, smacks you upside your head with a log he found in the woods and while you're on the floor wondering "WTF?" he duck tapes your mouth and hog ties your arms and legs and drags you into the woods then..... OOOOppps im giving away too much.. never mind.. carry on, carry on.. as you were.... where do you go jogging again?.. LOL :laugh:0 -
Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?
I am very glad I live in Europe!
^that^
What a thing to have to thnk about!
That's it, i'm moving to europe. Can't wait to live in a place without crime.
Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Obviously we have crime. We just don't go round pointing guns at each other. Or mace, or tasers. All illegal... We're not even allowed to walk around with a knife unless there's a good reason.
It's just a totally different culture.
We are, however, allowed to drink in public places and sunbathe topless on the beach
That's true, we do go waving that stuff around in public here in the colonies. Just the other day, I shocked the lady at the counter at McDonalds with my taser for trying to upsell me french fries. I'm trying to lose weight, damnit.
No, but seriously. Bad guy with a gleam in his eye has you backed into a corner.
You have in your hand a choice of one of four items:
A. Mace
B. Tazer (The neat kind that shoots prongs out)
C. Firearm
D. Nothing
Which do you pick?
A knee to the balls because it's not legal for me to carry any of that stuff
Neither would work if he sneaks up behind you, smacks you upside your head with a log he found in the woods and while you're on the floor wondering "WTF?" he duck tapes your mouth and hog ties your arms and legs and drags you into the woods then..... OOOOppps im giving away too much.. never mind.. carry on, carry on.. as you were.... where do you go jogging again?.. LOL :laugh:
Hmmm perhaps u should think about finding a professional to talk to???
Lol
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Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?
I am very glad I live in Europe!
^that^
What a thing to have to thnk about!
That's it, i'm moving to europe. Can't wait to live in a place without crime.
Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Obviously we have crime. We just don't go round pointing guns at each other. Or mace, or tasers. All illegal... We're not even allowed to walk around with a knife unless there's a good reason.
It's just a totally different culture.
We are, however, allowed to drink in public places and sunbathe topless on the beach
That's true, we do go waving that stuff around in public here in the colonies. Just the other day, I shocked the lady at the counter at McDonalds with my taser for trying to upsell me french fries. I'm trying to lose weight, damnit.
No, but seriously. Bad guy with a gleam in his eye has you backed into a corner.
You have in your hand a choice of one of four items:
A. Mace
B. Tazer (The neat kind that shoots prongs out)
C. Firearm
D. Nothing
Which do you pick?
Well, as said bad guy is likely to be bigger and stronger than me, I reckon the minute I reached for A. B or C he'd take it off me and I'd have just provided him with a weapon.
I'd rather use some neat self-defence move and then leg it - or try to avoid the situation in the first place.
Of course, that is a possibility. It's not really useful if not used at range, and if not a complete surprise.
Avoidance is always the best option, I agree.
Self defense moves are highly, highly overrated.
The knee example someone posted. It's harder than you think. Not everyone is standing there with legs shoulder width apart and body facing you.
I'm good with my knees. I do Muay Thai. I'm pretty quick, and have some good power. I don't think I'd try to knee/kick an attacker.0 -
Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?
I am very glad I live in Europe!
^that^
What a thing to have to thnk about!
That's it, i'm moving to europe. Can't wait to live in a place without crime.
Do I detect a note of sarcasm? Obviously we have crime. We just don't go round pointing guns at each other. Or mace, or tasers. All illegal... We're not even allowed to walk around with a knife unless there's a good reason.
It's just a totally different culture.
We are, however, allowed to drink in public places and sunbathe topless on the beach
That's true, we do go waving that stuff around in public here in the colonies. Just the other day, I shocked the lady at the counter at McDonalds with my taser for trying to upsell me french fries. I'm trying to lose weight, damnit.
No, but seriously. Bad guy with a gleam in his eye has you backed into a corner.
You have in your hand a choice of one of four items:
A. Mace
B. Tazer (The neat kind that shoots prongs out)
C. Firearm
D. Nothing
Which do you pick?
A knee to the balls because it's not legal for me to carry any of that stuff
Neither would work if he sneaks up behind you, smacks you upside your head with a log he found in the woods and while you're on the floor wondering "WTF?" he duck tapes your mouth and hog ties your arms and legs and drags you into the woods then..... OOOOppps im giving away too much.. never mind.. carry on, carry on.. as you were.... where do you go jogging again?.. LOL :laugh:
Hmmm perhaps u should think about finding a professional to talk to???
Lol
There are plenty of professionals here on MFP... thank you very much!!0 -
I live in Canada. That stuff doesn't happen here. I'd be more worried about being run down by someone talking on their cell phone.
I live in Australia and it's pretty safe here, plus it's a lot harder to get a gun license here than it is in USA I think. Over here hardly anyone owns a gun!
However, it's generally not the LEGAL gun owners you have to worry about, it's the criminals that obtain their guns ILLEGALLY that are generally the problem.
There are 5 times as many firearm related deaths per capita in the USA than in Canada. There are 10 times as many in the USA as in Australia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
I hardly think people in Australia need to worry about illegal gun owners killing them. Or, rather, it's much more likely to be killed by a legal gun owner in the US than an illegal one in Australia.
The idea that you need a gun while jogging is ridiculous. How many people have actually saved themselves from an attacker while jogging? 1 in 100 million??? Puh-lease...
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Not everyone that carries does so out of fear or because they live in a bad area or even because they "need" to carry. It is our right in this country (most of it anyway) to carry firearms. It's got nothing to do with "need". I carry because it's part of my job but I also carry because I have taken it upon myself to provide for my own safety and not rely on others to keep me safe. I may or may not "need" to carry but it's my choice to do so. And I choose to do so.0
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Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about0
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No, but seriously. Bad guy with a gleam in his eye has you backed into a corner.
You have in your hand a choice of one of four items:
A. Mace
B. Tazer (The neat kind that shoots prongs out)
C. Firearm
D. Nothing
Which do you pick?
At least 90% of people will never be in that situation.
It's not the odds. It's the stakes.0 -
Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about
Not for me. I can shoot them with my gun.0 -
I run with a portal gun.
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and- don't get me wrong- I'm not trying to say one way or the other is better. I'm just curious why someone would rather be unarmed/helpless than have deterrents.0
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Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about
Not for me. I can shoot them with my gun.
You'd even take your gun swimming?0 -
I run with a portal gun.
OOOHHHH, i need one of these..0 -
and- don't get me wrong- I'm not trying to say one way or the other is better. I'm just curious why someone would rather be unarmed/helpless than have deterrents.
Because I don't want to break the law 0 -
Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about
Not for me. I can shoot them with my gun.
You'd even take your gun swimming?
Have to use a spear gun. A hand gun isn't very useful underwater.
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and- don't get me wrong- I'm not trying to say one way or the other is better. I'm just curious why someone would rather be unarmed/helpless than have deterrents.
Because I don't want to break the law
So you would disagree with the following statement:
"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."0 -
Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about
Not for me. I can shoot them with my gun.
You'd even take your gun swimming?
Why not? I've got a stainless one. I've got a plastic one too.
Like I said earlier, the ONLY time I'm not carrying is when I'm running.
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It's not the odds. It's the stakes.
I like that.0 -
I live in Canada. That stuff doesn't happen here. I'd be more worried about being run down by someone talking on their cell phone.
I live in Australia and it's pretty safe here, plus it's a lot harder to get a gun license here than it is in USA I think. Over here hardly anyone owns a gun!
However, it's generally not the LEGAL gun owners you have to worry about, it's the criminals that obtain their guns ILLEGALLY that are generally the problem.
There are 5 times as many firearm related deaths per capita in the USA than in Canada. There are 10 times as many in the USA as in Australia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
I hardly think people in Australia need to worry about illegal gun owners killing them. Or, rather, it's much more likely to be killed by a legal gun owner in the US than an illegal one in Australia.
The idea that you need a gun while jogging is ridiculous. How many people have actually saved themselves from an attacker while jogging? 1 in 100 million??? Puh-lease...
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The US gun question crops up on here a lot. What amuses me (from the UK) is the American standard lines to justify the guns which perpetuates the problem.
In the next year I don't anticipate any likely-hood of being shot. I will drive my fancy SL anywhere - including inner city - with the roof down and I don't anticipate being car jacked. I will walk on any street at anytime and I won't get mugged. The chances of anything bad happening to me in the next twelve months are ZERO. I'm saying this just to point out the day to day reality of fear over here -- yeah sure we get some nutter every couple of years does something and it's big news. But I cant count the number of little shootings I have heard about from the US since the Batman cinema one --- it's endless
Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon. I really don't know if this is the true level of the risk - or just irrational fear - even a fear put about to justify gun ownership. (Which I am interested to hear more on)
However, I do get the point that America is in the situation it is - 'everyone' has guns and that isn't going to change.
I don't really comprehend if I drove around america with my roof down on my car am I being an idiot if I don't have a couple of guns on me or would I just believing the hype of fear?0 -
Crazy world we live in.
It's just mind-boggling to me...0 -
It's not the odds. It's the stakes.
I like that.
I have to call BS on that one. If you drive, you put yourself at higher risk of the same stakes several times a day. So the odds are worse and the stakes are the same.0 -
Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about
Not for me. I can shoot them with my gun.
You'd even take your gun swimming?
Why not? I've got a stainless one. I've got a plastic one too.
Like I said earlier, the ONLY time I'm not carrying is when I'm running.
Wow.
Not criticizing
Just hard to comprehend.0 -
I have to call BS on that one. If you drive, you put yourself at higher risk of the same stakes several times a day. So the odds are worse and the stakes are the same.
Carry a seat belt, wear a gun.. Wait, hold on.0 -
This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read in my life.
The ignorance of people that think that everyone in America has a gun, we all run around waving them everywhere, and that people basically think that we can go to Target and buy one off the shelf.
Hilarious.0 -
Nobody has ever gone stir-*kitten* crazy with a gun in a busy shopping mall... Do you think that's just a coincidence?
Not even a taxi driver or unemployed antiques dealer?
No, never, not in the country I live in anyway.0 -
The US gun question crops up on here a lot. What amuses me (from the UK) is the American standard lines to justify the guns which perpetuates the problem.
In the next year I don't anticipate any likely-hood of being shot. I will drive my fancy SL anywhere - including inner city - with the roof down and I don't anticipate being car jacked. I will walk on any street at anytime and I won't get mugged. The chances of anything bad happening to me in the next twelve months are ZERO. I'm saying this just to point out the day to day reality of fear over here -- yeah sure we get some nutter every couple of years does something and it's big news. But I cant count the number of little shootings I have heard about from the US since the Batman cinema one --- it's endless
Now many Americans I know seem to think it's crazy to even consider walking 1/4 mile to the 7/11 in mid -afternoon. I really don't know if this is the true level of the risk - or just irrational fear - even a fear put about to justify gun ownership. (Which I am interested to hear more on)
However, I do get the point that America is in the situation it is - 'everyone' has guns and that isn't going to change.
I don't really comprehend if I drove around america with my roof down on my car am I being an idiot if I don't have a couple of guns on me or would I just believing the hype of fear?
I go all over the place. I don't expect to get jacked most of the time. The ODDS of something happening to me are very low (a little higher at work but that's different). Most Americans don't think it's crazy to walk to 7/11. For most Americans carrying a gun has little to do with fear. Just like the statistically few cases of firearms being used to commit mass mayhem, the number of Americans who carry out of a sense of preparedness far outnumber the Americans that carry because they believe they will be raped and murdered around every corner. I don't carry because I believe something will happen to me. I carry because if something does happen I want to be prepared for it.
I don't carry when I fly somewhere. I went to Florida last week and didn't have my gun with me for two days. I felt weird - because I've been carrying for so long - but I didn't believe I was going to die at any second. I paid attention to my surroundings. My wife and I went to Las Vegas a couple of years ago. I didn't take my gun - partially because I planned to drink heavily and don't carry under those conditions. Everything was fine. I still feel better when I'm carrying and will with very few exceptions. I also didn't take a fire extinguisher to keep in the hotel room in Florida or Las Vegas but I have them at my home.0 -
Snakes and sharks are much more of a concern than guns when I'm out and about
Not for me. I can shoot them with my gun.
You'd even take your gun swimming?
Why not? I've got a stainless one. I've got a plastic one too.
Like I said earlier, the ONLY time I'm not carrying is when I'm running.
Wow.
Not criticizing
Just hard to comprehend.
That little winky thingy meant I was kidding.0
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