Does everyone hate their job this much?

xxthoroughbred

You have a really bad attitude and I'm sure that comes through at interviews. People here gave you tons of great advice, I offered you my professional expertise among others. So at this point, I'm just hearing wah wah wah....Poor me....Get over yourself. So many people are so much worse off than you. Some people can't afford to even feed themselves right now. Get some perspective, put on your big girl pants, build a bridge and get the hell over it already. Enough with the coddling.

Hey sweetie, I've been personally thanking the helpful people in private messages. Also, how do you know I can't afford to feed myself right now? Get some perspective yourself. I've been taking plenty of advice from here.

atsteele

re bored; Awwww. And you're getting paid to be bored too!!

re you asked several times for a promotion and you haven't been there but a year or so; Poor poor baby.

re I was lucky enough to get a position 3 months after graduation... Darn right you are lucky!! I know kids coming out of college who need to pay off loans and can't find work!

re I know so many who would be happy and grateful to have my job so I'm not trying to sound like the "entitled youth" of today... Yes, that's exactly what you sound like. You nailed it.

re Miserable and having panic attacks all the time.. Nope. This is not normal. See your MD and/or a good psychiatrist. I really think that you need professional help.

Re being bored: Awww, my life ambition isn't to get paid being bored!! I have more aspirations than that, but thanks for announcing your laziness!

Re promotions: I have NEVER asked for a promotion. I got a raise 6 months in! I'm not crazy.

Re entitlement: Oh, whoops! Sorry, I didn't know it was entitlement to want to be happy in life! WHOOPS! My bad.

You ask for input and then gripe about the input that you get? My gosh, do you complain this much at work??? I hope not. Because I woudn't be suprised if they were contemplating firing you.

Lots of people are bored at their jobs. But you know what? They put food on the table for their families and that's honorable. Whining about being bored is less than honorable. In fact, it's pathetic. Especially in an economy that people who really WANT to work can't find a job. I think that it's time to put on your big girl panties and move along wisely.

And yes you sound like an entitled brat. No one is "entitled" to the job of their dreams and a job of their dreams right out of college. You have to WORK to get to the job of your dreams. And you haven't been working all that long. And many people don't ever get there because it involves some level of fortune as well. But all those poor people who are scratching and clawing to get by in life aren't posting on a forum in a fitness site crying about how horrible their job is, are they?

Read what these other people are saying if you find my response so offensive. They are saying the exact same thing. Get over yourself.

You're great! :laugh:

1. I'm nowhere near getting fired. I got a raise 6 months in and they've begged me to stay. Thanks for trying to get in my head, though!
2. Do you really consider what you said constructive input? How is that doing to help me?
3. I never said I wanted my dream job right now. Can you please point me to where that was said? I said I hate my job because I would prefer to do more than fill out the same 3 forms every day. I'm telling you I want MORE work. And you're trying to tell me I have to work my way up. NO *kitten*, SHERLOCK. Learn to read!
4. I don't feel entitled at all. I applied at Wendy's! If that's entitlement...actually, you should probably just go read a dictionary.

Yes, this is my constructive input. Were you hoping that I would sugar coat it for you, cupcake?
Begging you to stay, you say? I bet. LOL
Here's more constructive input: Use Google. Look up how to be content and grateful in life.

xxthoroughbred

You're young. This is your first job after school. I have to wonder what on earth you were expecting? Reality check. Life isn't easy. It's not going to fall in your lap, and it sure as heck won't get better is you go around as a ball of negativity. We've become a society where we expect immediate gratification and it sets us up for frustration.

Have you thought to ask for more responsibility or things to do if you're so bored? It also shows initiative and responsibility to your employer and boosts your resume.
Keep looking for something else, but get used to rejection, it's going to happen, a lot.
See if you can't find other things to boost your resume. Is there volunteer work that you can do that would supplement your work experience.
Work on your perspective. Think positive about work instead of negatively and you'll probably cut a lot of your anxiety. This negativity could also be coming across in other areas of your life, and reading in to your applications to other jobs.

I was expecting more than filling out the same 3 forms throughout a day. Maybe I expected too much? Wendy's was a better option than this but they wouldn't take me.

Also, I've asked for more responsibility but they say they have nothing. They say I'm already doing way too much.

And I do volunteer on the weekends in addition to working on a business.

xxthoroughbred

...also, now that I've read through all the pages of replies...

You have an answer, denial or excuse for everything that the 9 pages of advice have suggested for you here. If you've applied to over 700 jobs, and not even gotten a handful of interviews, you are not as fantastic as you think. Take a hard, critical look at how you come across to others.

Also, nobody but you said English was a bull**** major, but it's very common knowledge that you won't get hired with an English degree, at least where I'm from. You either have to continue to a master's and PhD or do something unrelated. You implied that you know that many people making ridiculous money with english degrees, and if it's that common then the problem has to be you. I've never known a single person to stop at that level of education in that field and walk into an amazing job. Sorry if this sounds harsh but I've just read through all 9 pages and I don't think you're seeing what everybody else is.

Where are my excuses at? I've been messaging the helpful people and getting even more help from them. You know what assuming does. Sorry for fighting back at the people who wrongly assume things about me!

ChgingMe

Honey I was laid off and took a job paying 11,000 less a year. Im no spring chicken at almost 50 years old. I say suck it up. You have your whole life ahead of you and you are way too young to be this miserable. Living with your parents gives you a safety net. Quit this job if you hate it so much and get something else. Fast food if you have to. What I take from your story is that you may think you are a bit too good for certain jobs. With age comes wisdom. If you were older you would truly understand the blessings that you have.

Good luck on your search for the perfect job. I really hope you find it.

xxthoroughbred

Yes, this is my constructive input. Were you hoping that I would sugar coat it for you, cupcake?
Begging you to stay, you say? I bet. LOL
Here's more constructive input: Use Google. Look up how to be content and grateful in life.

Thanks for the entertainment this morning!

Please look up the definition of constructive.
Yes, they actually BEGGED me to stay! I guess that's unbelievable if you're a poor employee but it's happened on several occasions. I've been pulled aside during meetings and they plead with me to never leave. Look at that, I must be getting fired soon according to you!
I never said I wasn't grateful. In my first post, I pointed out that I was grateful. Can you not read or what...?

xxthoroughbred

Honey I was laid off and took a job paying 11,000 less a year. Im no spring chicken at almost 50 years old. I say suck it up. You have your whole life ahead of you and you are way too young to be this miserable. Living with your parents gives you a safety net. Quit this job if you hate it so much and get something else. Fast food if you have to. What I take from your story is that you may think you are a bit too good for certain jobs. With age comes wisdom. If you were older you would truly understand the blessings that you have.

Good luck on your search for the perfect job. I really hope you find it.

Why do I come across as thinking I'm too good if I worked at McDonald's and applied to Wendy's? I don't mind being the low man on the totem pole at all. I actually think that's good so I can learn. But I'm literally doing a job a robot can do right now.

apponly

Sometimes things change in a work environment, even if it takes a year or more.

You're going through personal professional growth, it happens to almost everyone. My mate had a job at a shoe store for a year after he obtained his Masters, and a lot of student loan debt, but he did the best he could to survive while he searched for a job in his desired field. His first job in that field he paid his dues and learned everything he could for another year until he could find a better paying position in another city. He's been there for, hm 14+ years, now.

Personally I started in meaningless jobs to pay the bills and finally found a well-suited career path. It took me several years to develop my skills, knowledge and reputation where I could advance in pay and job titles. I had to prove my value and that takes time. Some jobs I hated where I worked for violent and mentally unstable people, in generally hostile environments, in total clusters and so forth, but eventually as you prove your worth in the face of these common obstacles, the "right" people start to take notice your applications and resumes. I now work at a job I love, and while I don't always "love" my coworkers I do love my work and my company.

Look at it as time to build your work reputation while you earn money to survive and pay your bills. Learn to cope and function brilliantly, sparkle under these situations, because experience will show you that the grass is not always greener on the other side.

Take this time to prove to everyone that you are worth the investment it will take to promote and train you to advance or to make you their employee if you are seeking another job.

xxthoroughbred

To the helpful people (like the above poster), thank you!!!!:flowerforyou:

To the jerks, I wish you could see how many people are messaging me and saying they're in the same position. Have a drink and shut up.:drinker:

nilesbollinger

Ever thought about getting into real estate? It is an amazing and very rewarding job and you can be your own boss. I work for Keller Williams who I think is the best brokerage in the country to work for. If you'd like to chat about it, add me as a friend and send me a message.

Niles

Charliesuccess

Sounds like you've tried everything except prayer....I know EXACTLY where your coming from...and MFP's on my list can attest to my job related stress as I posted daily about boredom and hating my deadend job...I prayed. Had people praying for me etc and the next thing I knew the flood gates opened and I am now very content with an awesome job and ample opportunity. Gods favor is unexplainable, I dont deserve it, yet he blesses....I know people will say this is a fitness sight not a Holy Roller sight...believe me Im no Holy Roller, but Im telling you what worked for me....it may be worth a try?? Try it, if it doesnt work keep try something else. :flowerforyou:

SheilaG1963

I don't hate my job as much as I hate the way favorites are played around here. I've been here 26 years and my boss is about 12 years younger and has a really bad habit of talking down to me like I'm some newbie who doesn't know what I'm doing. I keep hanging in there because I've outlasted everyone else here except the owner.

If I were you, I would look into changing positions. Stress is not good and I couldn't work if I stressed that much!

allisona28

Check YOUR English...Prepositon at the end of a sentence???? WOW...Dean's list...Awesome!!! Welcome to the real world. You may need to change cities or states. Good luck !!!

JonMB

Everyone tells me this is just how it is.

They're wrong. I have a career I love, and as a bonus I get paid well too! Little stress and lots of fun, plus I can work from home and have flexible hours. I'm in software development, btw, but there are many other positions like mine in other industries. Either way -- you deserve to create a life you love. That's really "how it is". Keep going and create opportunities!

Capt_Apollo

This is America; pick a job and become the person who does it

KrysGettinFit

I'm a little bit older than you are and I didn't finish college (community college, yes but don't have my bachelors). I have worked my butt off for the past ten years to get where I am now. I have had jobs where i got serious anxiety (sounds a lot like what you are going through) but unfortunately you do have to "suck it up". A lot of places won't even consider you if you have jumped from job to job. I know how hard it is and I would say go talk to a therapist or something of the sort and try to find ways to deal with it. You want to soak up as much experience as you can before you leave. I sincerely hope that it gets better and you find something you are happy in. Good luck.

ChgingMe

Honey I was laid off and took a job paying 11,000 less a year. Im no spring chicken at almost 50 years old. I say suck it up. You have your whole life ahead of you and you are way too young to be this miserable. Living with your parents gives you a safety net. Quit this job if you hate it so much and get something else. Fast food if you have to. What I take from your story is that you may think you are a bit too good for certain jobs. With age comes wisdom. If you were older you would truly understand the blessings that you have.

Good luck on your search for the perfect job. I really hope you find it.

Why do I come across as thinking I'm too good if I worked at McDonald's and applied to Wendy's? I don't mind being the low man on the totem pole at all. I actually think that's good so I can learn. But I'm literally doing a job a robot can do right now.

All I'm saying is you could be a little more grateful for the blessings you have. A job. And right out of college. you do seem a bit entitled. And I know. I have a teenager and it takes everything within me to beat (not literally) this entitled mentality out of her. Its the generation. You are owed. No you're not. To have panic attacks and continue to stay on a job you hate isn't very wise. If its that bad leave it.. You have no idea what is in store for you. This may be your perfect job. But you are so busy complaining about it you don't see. Some times we miss the blessings because of the package they're wrapped in!

xxthoroughbred

Ever thought about getting into real estate? It is an amazing and very rewarding job and you can be your own boss. I work for Keller Williams who I think is the best brokerage in the country to work for. If you'd like to chat about it, add me as a friend and send me a message.

Niles

Hi Niles. I've thought of that as an option but know a few girls who went that route and are struggling to sell their houses. I guess the market will be picking up eventually. Have you seen anything similar (new workers coming in and really struggling)?

xxthoroughbred

Check YOUR English...Prepositon at the end of a sentence???? WOW...Dean's list...Awesome!!! Welcome to the real world. You may need to change cities or states. Good luck !!!

...It's an internet forum. Chill?

I have very strict writing guidelines at work that are regulated by the state. I can write. Thanks.

xxthoroughbred

Honey I was laid off and took a job paying 11,000 less a year. Im no spring chicken at almost 50 years old. I say suck it up. You have your whole life ahead of you and you are way too young to be this miserable. Living with your parents gives you a safety net. Quit this job if you hate it so much and get something else. Fast food if you have to. What I take from your story is that you may think you are a bit too good for certain jobs. With age comes wisdom. If you were older you would truly understand the blessings that you have.

Good luck on your search for the perfect job. I really hope you find it.

Why do I come across as thinking I'm too good if I worked at McDonald's and applied to Wendy's? I don't mind being the low man on the totem pole at all. I actually think that's good so I can learn. But I'm literally doing a job a robot can do right now.

All I'm saying is you could be a little more grateful for the blessings you have. A job. And right out of college. you do seem a bit entitled. And I know. I have a teenager and it takes everything within me to beat (not literally) this entitled mentality out of her. Its the generation. You are owed. No you're not. To have panic attacks and continue to stay on a job you hate isn't very wise. If its that bad leave it.. You have no idea what is in store for you. This may be your perfect job. But you are so busy complaining about it you don't see. Some times we miss the blessings because of the package they're wrapped in!

How am I busy complaining about it? I posted on an anonymous forum. No one in my life knows about this.

And no, I don't feel entitled. If I did, I wouldn't have applied for fast food and grocery stocking jobs.

I'm very grateful for what I have. I guess it's not showing here, but I am. I promise I am. I thank my lucky stars every night. I just want a different situation. I don't care if it's lower than this.

allisona28

Check YOUR English...Prepositon at the end of a sentence???? WOW...Dean's list...Awesome!!! Welcome to the real world. You may need to change cities or states. Good luck !!!

...It's an internet forum. Chill?

I have very strict writing guidelines at work that are regulated by the state. I can write. Thanks.

I know...I am sorry...I am mad because you are going through this...you are young, smart and have a lot of family support!! Do not let this job get you down...IN ALL THINGS GIVE THANKS...I hate my job, too...I know how you fee...GO find that dream job...you are not alone...I hope you have a great Friday and try to enjoy your weekend!!!! Allison

Cindym82

I'm 23, most of my friends graduated last year or this year. Most of them are IT guys and had no problem getting jobs. The rest of them...working at gas stations and grocery stores. This is the economy we're living in, better get used to it!

THIS!!!! Suck it up seriously, I have TWO degrees and work as an admin assist and make just enough to cover my bills including my loan and I've been done with college since 2005. I was part of the huge lay off when the economy took a giant crap on america and struggled to make ends meet. If you don't like your job quit, if you can't afford to than just shut it and deal with it until you find something that you like. Most places cannot even afford to keep their current employee's let alone hire new ones. You really do sound like a brat.....

kellyo15

I'm sorry, only publicly posting the negative responses to comments and keeping the thank-you's private has made you come off in a negative way to someone reading through this post. It's fairly common on here to see people make a post, ignore anything helpful and just argue everyone they disagree with to no end. Next time, maybe try publicly posting the thank you's and ignoring all the posts you are unhappy about?

As for excuses, you sound miserable at your job and any time someone tries to suggest something about finding a new job or new career you have an answer - it's (was) a great field for jobs, nobody else needs to get a master's to find a job, you're "very" good on paper (you honestly never see yourself in the same light as others), you weren't looking for a promotion but mentioned in your first paragraph that you've asked three times and been denied which gives off the impression that you were, you don't want to go to another field because you don't want to do something you don't like (which you are already). When people misunderstood you, you told them to learn to read. You said most people in school hated you because you were quiet (again, we never see ourselves in the same light as others and why would people hate you for being quiet? Many quiet people are very sweet, funny, and lovely).

I am sorry if the job market is that horrible where you are, but why not try and do something entirely different if you are unhappy? If the rockstars in your field can't find jobs, why not keep it as something you're continually pursuing while doing something else to bide your time? Travel, see the world, get some different and unique life experiences, do volunteer work... I'd never settle for something that made me break into crying fits on a regular basis. Like I said, my university-educated job got monotonous and so I changed it and entirely started over. Just thought of it as a platform to get me where I'm supposed to be. Life's to short to waste your energy being unhappy all the time. Good luck.

xxthoroughbred

I'm 23, most of my friends graduated last year or this year. Most of them are IT guys and had no problem getting jobs. The rest of them...working at gas stations and grocery stores. This is the economy we're living in, better get used to it!

THIS!!!! Suck it up seriously, I have TWO degrees and work as an admin assist and make just enough to cover my bills including my loan and I've been done with college since 2005. If you don't like your job quit, if you can't afford to than just shut it and deal with it until you find something that you like. Most places cannot even afford to keep their current employee's let alone hire new ones. You really do sound like a brat.....

This is the first time I've complained about my job. I'm sorry if that's bratty of me.

And my company is increasing at a 40% rate. They are hiring and hiring and hiring.

TabathaAnn8

I'm in a similar position, except I've been at my job for 8 years, I have applied to hundreds of jobs, including different departments, the only interviews I've gotten have been for those. I graduated from college while I was working this job with the hopes I would be promoted or find something new. It's extremely frustrating. I am told the same thing, I'm invaluable, I am a huge asset, they need me, but they just don't want to (or can't) pay me for what I do. I want to live a comfortable life with my husband and buy a house, maybe have children but we can't do that if I don't get a higher paying position. It is a lot of stress to be under.

It helps me to know I am not the only one working through this. I have had days where I think I'd rather run my car off the road than go to this job. It's shocking and sad. I don't think it is the actual jobs we have I think it is the fact that we are working so hard to get ahead but we still feel as though we are sinking. I do recommend that if you have an EAP (employee assistance program) at your job you should take advantage of some psychological counseling. It will work wonders. Other than that I think we just have to keep trying to get something better. We may have to wait until this economy picks up (who knows when that will be???). Until then maybe try some volunteering on the weekends, and who knows that may lead to a better paying position. That is probably the next avenue I will try.

apponly

OMG dude, not real estate, haha! Talk about running into the worst of the worst LOL

I do agree if she's feeling so stressed out that she is getting sick she needs help immediately, especially if she's feeling stuck there to survive. Perhaps therapy, but even a confidential friend's support might help.

I've been physically threatened and my personal vehicle was damaged when I stopped fraud by a coworker, I've been harrassed daily by more than a few mentally ill bosses and coworkers over the years, I've been cheated out of paychecks, and the "worker's horror" list goes on.

However, when things got so bad at one job that I felt I could no longer endure, I took another job even though it seemed "beneath" my abilities. That was a job I really loved and kept growing in the company for many years until the company was sold. That new employer at the time already knew by grape-vine and reputation of the things I'd previously endured even though I did not openly discuss it, we were a very happy fit.

xxthoroughbred

As for excuses, you sound miserable at your job and any time someone tries to suggest something about finding a new job or new career you have an answer - it's (was) a great field for jobs, nobody else needs to get a master's to find a job, you're "very" good on paper (you honestly never see yourself in the same light as others), you weren't looking for a promotion but mentioned in your first paragraph that you've asked three times and been denied which gives off the impression that you were, you don't want to go to another field because you don't want to do something you don't like (which you are already). When people misunderstood you, you told them to learn to read. You said most people in school hated you because you were quiet (again, we never see ourselves in the same light as others and why would people hate you for being quiet? Many quiet people are very sweet, funny, and lovely).

I'm mostly responding to messages I've gotten. I'm sure they would prefer to keep them private.

I'm sorry if I'm being overly defensive. I WAS told it was a great field for jobs. Really, no one I know who is successful in this industry/the industry I want to be in has a degree above a bachelors. I'm "very good on paper" because that's what I've been told by one of the top career services programs in the country. I've also been told I interview extremely well. Maybe someone's lying? I don't know.:ohwell: I didn't ask for a promotion. I asked about moving to another position with more responsibility but is essentially on the same level as this one. I don't see that as a "promotion." And if someone jumps to conclusions and assumes things about me that I already stated weren't true? I think they should learn to read!

I am very much trying to change my situation, and have done a lot over night with the help of the kind folks here. I don't understand why the rest feel the need to bash someone they don't know.

Thank you for the encouraging words.:flowerforyou:

xxthoroughbred

I'm in a similar position, except I've been at my job for 8 years, I have applied to hundreds of jobs, including different departments, the only interviews I've gotten have been for those. I graduated from college while I was working this job with the hopes I would be promoted or find something new. It's extremely frustrating. I am told the same thing, I'm invaluable, I am a huge asset, they need me, but they just don't want to (or can't) pay me for what I do. I want to live a comfortable life with my husband and buy a house, maybe have children but we can't do that if I don't get a higher paying position. It is a lot of stress to be under.

It helps me to know I am not the only one working through this. I have had days where I think I'd rather run my car off the road than go to this job. It's shocking and sad. I don't think it is the actual jobs we have I think it is the fact that we are working so hard to get ahead but we still feel as though we are sinking. I do recommend that if you have an EAP (employee assistance program) at your job you should take advantage of some psychological counseling. It will work wonders. Other than that I think we just have to keep trying to get something better. We may have to wait until this economy picks up (who knows when that will be???). Until then maybe try some volunteering on the weekends, and who knows that may lead to a better paying position. That is probably the next avenue I will try.

Thank you for your kind words.:flowerforyou: I truly do hope you get into a situation you like much better than the one you're in now.

wifealiciousness

I also skipped a few pages, but from what I've read I am surprised at how negative and mean people have been. But then I really shouldn't be as this is the internet....

I was in a job (my second out of Uni) which I *hated*. There was nothing specifically wrong with it on paper. It paid ok, it was (kind of) in the sector I studied. But I really couldn't stand some of the awful people I worked with, I was bored and under-employed, I wasn't trusted to even write a letter without someone checking it to ensure it was ok to go out to the public... I was bored to tears, frustrated, cried myself to sleep and had a few panic attacks at work.

I applied for a number of jobs (although I was quite selective as I didn't want to go out of the frying pan and into the fire), and got very few interviews. For one job that I was perfectly qualified for, I didn't get an interview. When I rang them and asked for feedback, it turned out that there were over 200 applicants for the job- so many of them would have been better candidates, through their experience, the quality of their application or maybe just having that one specific skill that the employers were looking for.

My dream job came up, I applied and didn't get an interview. I was pretty guttedm but having spent 2 1/2 years looking for jobs, I wasn't particularly surprised. Then, out of the blue I got a call saying that someone had pulled out of the interviews and that I was first on their reserve list. Despite having to put together a presentation in half a day and being the 7th choice- I got the job. 5 years later, I've been promoted and am still happy. Although there are stressful days and bad days, I appreciate I am lucky to have such a great job and work for an organisation that I respect and that respects me.

Those who are replying in the negative have probably not been in your situation- there's a difference between being indifferent about your job and really hating it to the point where it starts to make you ill.

The good news is that you *do* have your whole life ahead of you, and that the right job will come along (or at least a better one!). Yes, the job-climate isn't ideal at the moment, but it's time to get creative. Can you volunteer in the sector you're interested in? Can you do any further study in something you enjoy? Is there any way of gaining extra experience? When you apply for jobs- be a bit more selective in what you apply for and be sure to take the time to tailor your application to the job you want. I do some recruitment in my job, and nothing turns me off more than someone who clearly just wants "A JOB" not "THE JOB" that we're advertising. In addition, it's tempting to badmouth current employers or say " I want this job because I HATE my current job"- this is irrelevent and a turn off, so be careful how you come across!

Try to re-write personal statements afresh so they don't get boring- don't just cut and paste whatever you wrote for the last job, and always get a friend to read it over to ensure it makes sense and sells you well. Nothing worse than lookin at a job app when you can clearly see from someone's past work that they would be good for the job, but they don't make the shortlist (or if they get an interview, don't get the job) because they were incapable of selling their skills.

AnneM69

OK, I know what you're saying, you are underemployed and this is causing you to have anxiety/panic attacks. These are two separate issues and nobody has addressed both of them.
For the anxiety and panic, find a Dr. who you can talk to, and get some anti anxiety or anti depressant medication for the short to medium term, just to stabilize you, until the effects of your changes in behavior (which I will write about below) kick in. Also do you have some sick leave you could use, just to have a break from the workplace?
To change your behavior and to fill your days, you can start doing creative writing while you're at work. There are a lot of websites that will publish you work online, I'm sure you know better than me where to find these websites, and how to connect with the people who run them. Also, use your time since you are being paid to be there and work on pieces of professional work (marketing and business case studies, anything else you know about) to put in your portfolio to show employers and professors if you decide to go back and do an MA.
I have a friend in the UK who had a similar situation at her first job after graduating, she had a very similar sounding degree and job to you as well. She did most of what I've described above, and now she's finished her Masters and she keeps on putting links of Facebook to poems and short stories of hers that are being published on the websites I mentioned previously.