How many times have you seen this? Some people don't get it!

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  • nack_23
    nack_23 Posts: 154
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN
  • jayche
    jayche Posts: 1,128 Member
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN
    TMW is also a bad example, they eat "dirty" foods regularly (just look at any recent videos).
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/
  • nack_23
    nack_23 Posts: 154
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN
    TMW is also a bad example, they eat "dirty" foods regularly (just look at any recent videos).

    I was just referring to macros
  • nack_23
    nack_23 Posts: 154
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.

    Layne favors IIFYM and I know first hand in addition to this video one of his students, who is a friend of mine, is on IIFYM during competition cutting. (For the upcoming show that most people know as the Matt Ogus vs Chris Jones showdown).

    You absolutely need intelligent macros set up and can't just eat random *kitten*. The people who are doing IIFYM correctly are:

    a) Using intelligent macro set-ups that are "bodybuilder-like". (That's a dumb phrase but it's all I could come up with to explain what I mean).
    b) Eating "mostly" bro foods.
    c) Using a small bank of discretionary intake so they can fit a few treats into their diet.
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
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    I'm just bumping so I can find this again
  • dare2love81
    dare2love81 Posts: 928 Member
    Wow....just here to add that for the OP:

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  • nack_23
    nack_23 Posts: 154
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.

    Layne favors IIFYM and I know first hand in addition to this video one of his students, who is a friend of mine, is on IIFYM during competition cutting. (For the upcoming show that most people know as the Matt Ogus vs Chris Jones showdown).

    yah and some people do intermittent fasting, some people have 6 small meals a day. Its all up to the individual
  • MikesterAZ
    MikesterAZ Posts: 67 Member
    What a dumb thing to get upset about. Are you actually following people to check for integrity in their food choices just so you can come online and talk ****? Live and let live ... this community is for support, not gossip!! Get a life!!
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
    Only a slightly lighter note, do you think these fast food companies place themselves near gyms/leisure centres on purpose? My old gym had a KFC right next to it and my new gym has a fish and chip shop, indian and chinese all next door. Just saying.

    Oh, and I agree. As long as you meet you macros/micros you can eat what you like.
  • disneygallagirl
    disneygallagirl Posts: 515 Member
    I feel like I got a workout reading this thread by LMAO and now I am STARVING.........
    Big Mac anyone? anyone?
    BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! (Shhhhhhhhh)
    thanks for the smiles everyone.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    IIFYM is crap


    Well presented argument and excellently laid out discussion.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    LOL

    Oh and reading through the thread I saw the Michael Phelps diet posted on here, Michael Phelps himself stated that this "diet" of his not true.

    What he said was that he did not eat 12000 calories.
    But he certainly does not eat clean AND is succesful

    He says
    DETAILS: What about nutrition? It's rumored that you eat 12,000 calories a day—entire pizzas, two dozen eggs. Is that true?

    Michael Phelps: No. People make a big deal out of what I eat, but it's not that crazy. I had a three-egg omelet and three pieces of French toast and coffee this morning. For recovery, I think it's a big deal to eat within a half-hour after you exercise. Otherwise I just try to put carbs into my system before I swim and then load up on the protein after. I don't count calories. Whether it's Sour Patch Kids or Reese's or a bag of chips, if I feel like eating it, I'm going to eat it.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.

    Layne favors IIFYM and I know first hand in addition to this video one of his students, who is a friend of mine, is on IIFYM during competition cutting. (For the upcoming show that most people know as the Matt Ogus vs Chris Jones showdown).

    yah and some people do intermittent fasting, some people have 6 small meals a day. Its all up to the individual


    That's exactly the point. So if I've shown you that a respected member of the bodybuilding community (Layne), who also has a PHD (pimpin hoes degree) and does research in a very relevant area (he's got some stuff on leucine dosing that could prove valuable) endorses IIFYM, then why would you label it as crap?

    If you don't like the approach for your own use, nothing wrong with that at all. But conceptually it's a solid approach.
  • chocl8girl
    chocl8girl Posts: 1,968 Member
    On a lighter note, this thread has certainly given me new people to stalk, I mean follow, I mean pay attention to on the forums. :love: :flowerforyou:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.

    Layne favors IIFYM and I know first hand in addition to this video one of his students, who is a friend of mine, is on IIFYM during competition cutting. (For the upcoming show that most people know as the Matt Ogus vs Chris Jones showdown).

    yah and some people do intermittent fasting, some people have 6 small meals a day. Its all up to the individual

    Exactly...you get it now!
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
    Wow....just here to add that for the OP:

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    I love boxers.


    I must be out on left field or something if I do both IIFYM and Clean eating. As in, I hit my macros and I eat as natural as possible. But you know what, if I want that {insert food that i have been told is bad and i should stay away from for the rest of my life} I will have it... as long as IFs my M's. Ya hear me?
  • Robb_1986
    Robb_1986 Posts: 1 Member
    I "cheat" all the time. By that I mean I eat junk food or something someone would consider unhealthy but I rarely go over on my calories and I'm still losing weight. Sure I'm not the healthiest person around but I'm way healthier then when I was 490 lbs 2 years ago.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    The earliest recorded recipe for soup was hippopotamus soup. HIPPOPOTAMUS SOUP! THAT IS JUST CRAZY!
  • nikinyx6
    nikinyx6 Posts: 772 Member
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.

    Layne favors IIFYM and I know first hand in addition to this video one of his students, who is a friend of mine, is on IIFYM during competition cutting. (For the upcoming show that most people know as the Matt Ogus vs Chris Jones showdown).

    yah and some people do intermittent fasting, some people have 6 small meals a day. Its all up to the individual

    Really?! NOW it's up to the individual? what happened to "everyone has to do as i do or they'll get fat'?!?
  • iAMsmiling
    iAMsmiling Posts: 2,394 Member
    The earliest recorded recipe for soup was hippopotamus soup. HIPPOPOTAMUS SOUP! THAT IS JUST CRAZY!

    Seriously! Where'd they find a stock pot big enough?
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
    .....also, there is more to nutrition than just Macros. And there is also more to health than just BF%.....
  • jayche
    jayche Posts: 1,128 Member
    What he said was that he did not eat 12000 calories.
    But he certainly does not eat clean AND is succesful
    Did I ever say he didn't? I simply said the guy doesn't eat 12,000 or 15,000 calories a day like the media portrayed it.
    What a dumb thing to get upset about. Are you actually following people to check for integrity in their food choices just so you can come online and talk ****? Live and let live ... this community is for support, not gossip!! Get a life!!
    You shouldn't tell someone that a forum is support then turn around and tell them to get a life and that they're upset for a stupid reason.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I "cheat" all the time. By that I mean I eat junk food or something someone would consider unhealthy but I rarely go over on my calories and I'm still losing weight. Sure I'm not the healthiest person around but I'm way healthier then when I was 490 lbs 2 years ago.

    Wow! Awesome job! And agreed. I try to make healthy choices but I do have the "junk" food too. I don't consider it cheating, though...I just consider it eating..
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    IIFYM is crap

    Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

    WATCH THIS THEN

    Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

    And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

    Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

    Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
    http://www.biolayne.com/

    absolutely layne norton is great.

    Quote from Layne Norton

    "I find the whole idea of ‘clean eating’ pretentious. What exactly defines a food as ‘clean’? Do you spray windex on it? Rub soap on it? I find it a bit preposterous. I’ve been in debates with people promoting ‘clean eating’ but when I ask for a specific scientific definition of what makes a food ‘clean’ they are silent. I think the restrictive diets where you can only eat a half dozen or so foods are not only unhealthy because they don’t give you a diverse intake of nutrients but I believe they promote eating disorders and binging. I see people who ‘eat clean’ during most of the week and then binge on cheesecake, ice cream, and donuts because it’s a ‘cheat’ meal. Oh yea… that is way healthier than eating ‘unclean’ foods in moderation to a hit a specific macronutrient target. *rolleyes* Now that said, I do believe that many IIFYMers (I find it funny that something myself and others been promoting for years gets an acronym attached to it and is now this ‘new’ way of eating LOL) actually go too far in one direction. Most people who origionally promoted targeting macronutrient intakes instead of obsessing about food choices actually eat ‘clean’ foods 95% of the time, we just don’t agonize over having a homemade burrito with a low carb wrap or some reduced calorie ice cream. We see the value of a controlled intake in order to prevent uncontrolled binging. But I do see IIFYM followers who eat as much sugary, high fat foods as they can and wear it like a badge of honor. That is not the point. If you are following a macronutrient intake that is friendly for body composition you will be eating a lot of ‘clean’ foods by default because you will not be able to hit a protein, carb, fat, and fiber intake conducive to body composition improvement if all you eat are high sugar/fat foods. The point is it’s ok to have these foods in small amounts if you are still hitting your goal macronutrient intake."

    http://www.shreddedknowledge.com/home/a-talk-with-the-doc-dr-layne-norton/
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    The earliest recorded recipe for soup was hippopotamus soup. HIPPOPOTAMUS SOUP! THAT IS JUST CRAZY!

    Seriously! Where'd they find a stock pot big enough?

    I KNOW!!!!
  • WrenStory
    WrenStory Posts: 103
    The earliest recorded recipe for soup was hippopotamus soup. HIPPOPOTAMUS SOUP! THAT IS JUST CRAZY!


    Grumpapotamus soup is crazy too.

    Lyle MdDonald's face shouldn't have mattered.
  • nightengale7
    nightengale7 Posts: 563 Member
    Wow....just here to add that for the OP:

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    Oh geez...I just about spit out the apple I'm eating I started laughing so hard when I read this...holy crap that is freakin awesome LOL :laugh:
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