How many times have you seen this? Some people don't get it!

sjohnny

LOL, unreal. Say what you have to say to justify your poor eating habits.

I guess all i am trying to say is you WILL most likely have more success losing unwanted weight by eating: Lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrate & a healthy fat source.

Lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but eats simple sugars, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats ect.
Then lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but, eats lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrates and a healthy fat source.

There is not one person that can say that "little Timmy" eating poorly will see better results. simple fact. but, i am sure most of you will try to argue this point.

Dude! (or Bro! or Brah! or whatever you fckers call each other) No one is advocating a diet of 100% Big Macs. What most here are saying is that it is possible to make room in your calories/macronutrients for Big Macs and still eat healthy and see great results. You have ranted on about how this is not possible. It's the all or nothing bullsh!t that makes you sound like a televangelist.

In fact, I believe the first response to your first post on the first half of this thread was:

If you can fit it into your calorie/macronutrient goals there is no reason not to have Wendy's or McDonald's.

I can't remember who that poster was I just remember him being exceptionally handsome and intelligent.

Wasnt my response

What wasn't your response?

nack_23

LOL, unreal. Say what you have to say to justify your poor eating habits.

I guess all i am trying to say is you WILL most likely have more success losing unwanted weight by eating: Lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrate & a healthy fat source.

Lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but eats simple sugars, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats ect.
Then lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but, eats lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrates and a healthy fat source.

There is not one person that can say that "little Timmy" eating poorly will see better results. simple fact. but, i am sure most of you will try to argue this point.

Dude! (or Bro! or Brah! or whatever you fckers call each other) No one is advocating a diet of 100% Big Macs. What most here are saying is that it is possible to make room in your calories/macronutrients for Big Macs and still eat healthy and see great results. You have ranted on about how this is not possible. It's the all or nothing bullsh!t that makes you sound like a televangelist.

In fact, I believe the first response to your first post on the first half of this thread was:

If you can fit it into your calorie/macronutrient goals there is no reason not to have Wendy's or McDonald's.

I can't remember who that poster was I just remember him being exceptionally handsome and intelligent.

Wasnt my response

What wasn't your response?

nm, dont take this so serious

nack_23

LOL, unreal. Say what you have to say to justify your poor eating habits.

I guess all i am trying to say is you WILL most likely have more success losing unwanted weight by eating: Lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrate & a healthy fat source.

Lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but eats simple sugars, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats ect.
Then lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but, eats lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrates and a healthy fat source.

There is not one person that can say that "little Timmy" eating poorly will see better results. simple fact. but, i am sure most of you will try to argue this point.

Dude! (or Bro! or Brah! or whatever you fckers call each other) No one is advocating a diet of 100% Big Macs. What most here are saying is that it is possible to make room in your calories/macronutrients for Big Macs and still eat healthy and see great results. You have ranted on about how this is not possible. It's the all or nothing bullsh!t that makes you sound like a televangelist.

In fact, I believe the first response to your first post on the first half of this thread was:

If you can fit it into your calorie/macronutrient goals there is no reason not to have Wendy's or McDonald's.

I can't remember who that poster was I just remember him being exceptionally handsome and intelligent.

Wasnt my response

What wasn't your response?

nm, dont take this so serious

I was quoting my own response to your original post, dipsh!t.

easy with the language buddy boy

UsedToBeHusky

LOL, unreal. Say what you have to say to justify your poor eating habits.

I guess all i am trying to say is you WILL most likely have more success losing unwanted weight by eating: Lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrate & a healthy fat source.

Lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but eats simple sugars, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats ect.
Then lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but, eats lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrates and a healthy fat source.

There is not one person that can say that "little Timmy" eating poorly will see better results. simple fact. but, i am sure most of you will try to argue this point.

Dude! (or Bro! or Brah! or whatever you fckers call each other) No one is advocating a diet of 100% Big Macs. What most here are saying is that it is possible to make room in your calories/macronutrients for Big Macs and still eat healthy and see great results. You have ranted on about how this is not possible. It's the all or nothing bullsh!t that makes you sound like a televangelist.

In fact, I believe the first response to your first post on the first half of this thread was:

If you can fit it into your calorie/macronutrient goals there is no reason not to have Wendy's or McDonald's.

I can't remember who that poster was I just remember him being exceptionally handsome and intelligent.

Wasnt my response

What wasn't your response?

nm, dont take this so serious

I was quoting my own response to your original post, dipsh!t.

Johnny,

Just walk away, man. This thread has gotten boring. Dude is wrong, but he will never be convinced. No one even cares anymore. By coming back, you're adding to this man's already over-inflated ego that he is somehow important in your life. Just let it die. :flowerforyou:

Sarauk2sf

LOL, unreal. Say what you have to say to justify your poor eating habits.

I guess all i am trying to say is you WILL most likely have more success losing unwanted weight by eating: Lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrate & a healthy fat source.

Lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but eats simple sugars, refined carbohydrates, saturated fats ect.
Then lets say "Little Timmy" works out hard on a consistent basis for an entire year but, eats lean protein, complex/whole grain carbohydrates and a healthy fat source.

There is not one person that can say that "little Timmy" eating poorly will see better results. simple fact. but, i am sure most of you will try to argue this point.

Who said that here? Who said your will get better results - no-one. Did you read any of the things/links posted about IIFYM? You know, including the one from Layne, who you admit is da man? Why don't you email Layne and tell him he is wrong.

Sarauk2sf

IIFYM is crap

Would you like to make any attempt to clarify why? You would first need to demonstrate that you understand what IIFYM is, which you have yet to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_pXBT_h_lI

WATCH THIS THEN

Sure, I'll watch the Hodge Twins. Tell me if you believe the Hodge Twins are a good resource for nutritional information while we're at it.

And you can check out Layne Norton. This is only 1:15 or so.

Layne trains professional bodybuilders and is also a champion bodybuilder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfaYy2m-iQ

Layne is a research scientist as well and has multiple degrees in relevant fields.
http://www.biolayne.com/

absolutely layne norton is great.

Quote from Layne Norton

"I find the whole idea of ‘clean eating’ pretentious. What exactly defines a food as ‘clean’? Do you spray windex on it? Rub soap on it? I find it a bit preposterous. I’ve been in debates with people promoting ‘clean eating’ but when I ask for a specific scientific definition of what makes a food ‘clean’ they are silent. I think the restrictive diets where you can only eat a half dozen or so foods are not only unhealthy because they don’t give you a diverse intake of nutrients but I believe they promote eating disorders and binging. I see people who ‘eat clean’ during most of the week and then binge on cheesecake, ice cream, and donuts because it’s a ‘cheat’ meal. Oh yea… that is way healthier than eating ‘unclean’ foods in moderation to a hit a specific macronutrient target. *rolleyes* Now that said, I do believe that many IIFYMers (I find it funny that something myself and others been promoting for years gets an acronym attached to it and is now this ‘new’ way of eating LOL) actually go too far in one direction. Most people who origionally promoted targeting macronutrient intakes instead of obsessing about food choices actually eat ‘clean’ foods 95% of the time, we just don’t agonize over having a homemade burrito with a low carb wrap or some reduced calorie ice cream. We see the value of a controlled intake in order to prevent uncontrolled binging. But I do see IIFYM followers who eat as much sugary, high fat foods as they can and wear it like a badge of honor. That is not the point. If you are following a macronutrient intake that is friendly for body composition you will be eating a lot of ‘clean’ foods by default because you will not be able to hit a protein, carb, fat, and fiber intake conducive to body composition improvement if all you eat are high sugar/fat foods. The point is it’s ok to have these foods in small amounts if you are still hitting your goal macronutrient intake."

http://www.shreddedknowledge.com/home/a-talk-with-the-doc-dr-layne-norton/

Copied that to a file to keep. I may have to become obnoxious and post it every time I see someone mention "eating clean."

OP: Have you read the above link or watched the video? If not, I suggest you do.

sjohnny

Johnny,

Just walk away, man. This thread has gotten boring. Dude is wrong, but he will never be convinced. No one even cares anymore. By coming back, you're adding to this man's already over-inflated ego that he is somehow important in your life. Just let it die. :flowerforyou:

True about the boring. It no longer brings the lulz like it once did. The fire has died.

bassmanlarry

I think the OP is just enjoying the attention, some people just like to argue. I'm the king of killing threads, so maybe it'll die here.

rob1976