Is bread generally fattening?

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  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

    Not really - having eaten both. We Brits actually don't have an equivalent. Wish we did :sad:
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

    oh, okay, I interpreted this as four British biscuits.......

    even so, four scones is really not that big a deal (i.e. still not a binge and still only overeating if it takes you over your goal before you get enough protein, vitamins etc).... scones are nice. mmmmmmmmm cream and jam and scones....
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    Your scones are similar, but I find our biscuits are much lighter and fluffier. When I had a proper English meat pie, the top crust reminded me more of one of our american biscuits (but obviously much thinner). The dumplings in chicken and dumpling soup are also similar in chemistry to a biscuit. The kind of bread wrapping of the middle eastern/lebanese-style spinach pocket sandwiches was also pretty similar. But nothing in England quite comes close to an american biscuit, in my opinion.

    they're flour, lard, salt, baking powder and milk.
  • Iron_Pheonix
    Iron_Pheonix Posts: 191 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

    oh, okay, I interpreted this as four British biscuits.......

    even so, four scones is really not that big a deal (i.e. still not a binge and still only overeating if it takes you over your goal before you get enough protein, vitamins etc).... scones are nice. mmmmmmmmm cream and jam and scones....


    I think my stomach would explode on four scones and then id go into a carb coma. Lol
  • aaronlawrenc
    aaronlawrenc Posts: 666 Member
    I believe bread is fattening bc of the way the body processes it. The package will say low fat and low sugar, but it processes in the body as a sugar. That is what makes if fattening. If you must eat bread or english muffins or wraps, etc chose Ezekiel bread. It is considered a protein by the body (equivalent to an egg) according to the package and has several amino acids in it (can't recall how many without looking it up). It is sold in the health food stores.

    Just a tip, I noticed it does best when kept in the freezer, otherwise it spoils really fast. It's YUMMO!

    i believe that you believe correctly
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    Your scones are similar, but I find our biscuits are much lighter and fluffier. When I had a proper English meat pie, the top crust reminded me more of one of our american biscuits (but obviously much thinner). The dumplings in chicken and dumpling soup are also similar in chemistry to a biscuit. The kind of bread wrapping of the middle eastern/lebanese-style spinach pocket sandwiches was also pretty similar. But nothing in England quite comes close to an american biscuit, in my opinion.

    they're flour, lard, salt, baking powder and milk.

    that's interesting... and nothing like British scones!! do you mean the middle eastern spinach pockets that come in packets, or home cooked ones? there's a lot of variation between them. I love them btw!! (home cooked ones that is.... the packet ones are nothing to write home about and also they're about as filling as eating air or mcdonalds) And they definitely don't contain lard in the middle east lol
  • aaronlawrenc
    aaronlawrenc Posts: 666 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

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  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    [quote
    that's interesting... and nothing like British scones!! do you mean the middle eastern spinach pockets that come in packets, or home cooked ones? there's a lot of variation between them. I love them btw!! (home cooked ones that is.... the packet ones are nothing to write home about and also they're about as filling as eating air or mcdonalds) And they definitely don't contain lard in the middle east lol
    [/quote]


    imagine savory scones made of loads filo pastry, light layers really.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

    oh, okay, I interpreted this as four British biscuits.......

    even so, four scones is really not that big a deal (i.e. still not a binge and still only overeating if it takes you over your goal before you get enough protein, vitamins etc).... scones are nice. mmmmmmmmm cream and jam and scones....


    I think my stomach would explode on four scones and then id go into a carb coma. Lol

    I'm not sure I could eat four in one sitting to be honest (especially not if accompanied by clotted cream and jam, and it would be extremely hard to fit that in my macros....)
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    that's interesting... and nothing like British scones!! do you mean the middle eastern spinach pockets that come in packets, or home cooked ones? there's a lot of variation between them. I love them btw!! (home cooked ones that is.... the packet ones are nothing to write home about and also they're about as filling as eating air or mcdonalds) And they definitely don't contain lard in the middle east lol


    imagine savory scones made of loads filo pastry, light layers really.

    okay, I can picture that... but definitely would not call it a scone
  • aaronlawrenc
    aaronlawrenc Posts: 666 Member
    1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

    Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

    Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

    If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

    Lol at you telling me how many of a particular item I get to eat. I have to eat 3500-4000 just to maintain and I can't have 4 biscuits? Please.

    A 12 oz can of soda can say 2 servings, does that make it true? Serving size is created by marketing departments so they can make calories seem smaller, not by the Lord of How Much I Can Eat

    I don't think the OP eats 3500-4000 cal

    Exactly. She ate a proportionally smaller amount than I would. I would have had jelly, 6 eggs and bacon along with OJ.

    Or 10 more cookies and a pint of ice cream. Have we determined if the OP is eating American biscuits or British biscuits?

    Either way, I bet she lives

    haha i bet you're right. :smile:

    unless shes allergic
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

    Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

    Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

    If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

    Lol at you telling me how many of a particular item I get to eat. I have to eat 3500-4000 just to maintain and I can't have 4 biscuits? Please.

    A 12 oz can of soda can say 2 servings, does that make it true? Serving size is created by marketing departments so they can make calories seem smaller, not by the Lord of How Much I Can Eat

    I don't think the OP eats 3500-4000 cal

    Exactly. She ate a proportionally smaller amount than I would. I would have had jelly, 6 eggs and bacon along with OJ.

    Or 10 more cookies and a pint of ice cream. Have we determined if the OP is eating American biscuits or British biscuits?

    Either way, I bet she lives

    haha i bet you're right. :smile:

    unless shes allergic

    my god. you're right.
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
    Biscuits are made with shortening(fat), and salt. Its not the wheat to worry about.
  • Sweets1954
    Sweets1954 Posts: 507 Member
    Bread isn't any more "fattening" than anything else as long as you account for the calories in your daily total. You may find there are other options that serve the same purpose and have fewer calories. I have been buying the Sara Lee 45 calorie bread and find it just as satisfying as other commercial bread with much fewer calories. I generally only have bread as toast and an occasional sandwich. I have also started using the sandwich thins in place of buns for hamburgers and for sandwiches, they have the same calorie count as one slice of bread and half what a regular bun has. I do like really good artisan breads, like the kind I use to find in Europe, but I don't find that much around here so I don't often get to indulge in that.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Biscuits are made with shortening(fat), and salt. Its not the wheat to worry about.

    the issue isn't that it's fat, it's that it's partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Yes.

    If it's bread that is filled with whipped cream, dipped in egg yolk, and then deep fried.

    Then it's fattening.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    BRO. Weight gain depends on insulin resistance. Someone saying "I always eat bread and never been overweight" means absolutely zero. It depends on your reaction to the sugars most of all, calories only somewhat. Bro Science will lead you down the wrong path.
    At least you got the bolded part right.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Biscuits are made with shortening(fat), and salt. Its not the wheat to worry about.

    the issue isn't that it's fat, it's that it's partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

    For once, I don't actually disagree with you.....waits till he picks himself up off the floor......imo non partially hydrogenated shortening should be used...problem solved.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    Yes.

    If it's bread that is filled with whipped cream, dipped in egg yolk, and then deep fried.

    Then it's fattening.

    Whipped cream :noway:

    Now ham and cheese - mmmmmm yes, and delicious at that :love:
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Yes.

    If it's bread that is filled with whipped cream, dipped in egg yolk, and then deep fried.

    Then it's fattening.

    Whipped cream :noway:

    Now ham and cheese - mmmmmm yes, and delicious at that :love:

    Oh yeah!

    I like that.

    Maybe wrap a little bacon around that *****.

    Now we're talking!

    :love:
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Biscuits are made with shortening(fat), and salt. Its not the wheat to worry about.

    the issue isn't that it's fat, it's that it's partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

    For once, I don't actually disagree with you.....waits till he picks himself up off the floor......imo non partially hydrogenated shortening should be used...problem solved.

    so there ARE some foods that are worse than others? :wink:

    (not looking to fight, just joking with you)
  • Iron_Pheonix
    Iron_Pheonix Posts: 191 Member
    Biscuits are made with shortening(fat), and salt. Its not the wheat to worry about.

    the issue isn't that it's fat, it's that it's partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

    For once, I don't actually disagree with you.....waits till he picks himself up off the floor......imo non partially hydrogenated shortening should be used...problem solved.

    so there ARE some foods that are worse than others? :wink:

    (not looking to fight, just joking with you)


    Lol
  • BRO. Weight gain depends on insulin resistance. Someone saying "I always eat bread and never been overweight" means absolutely zero. It depends on your reaction to the sugars most of all, calories only somewhat. Bro Science will lead you down the wrong path.

    ^This. I've found that I can only lose weight when eliminating bread, pasta and rice from my diet. Everybody processes insulin differently. If you are insulin resistant, your body has too much insulin floating around that it cannot properly absorb. Eating bread (which is HIGH in carbs), just spikes your insulin even more, leading you to gain weight.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

    Not really - having eaten both. We Brits actually don't have an equivalent. Wish we did :sad:

    this might be a brit-vs-american-vs-canadian thing. What we Canucks call a biscuit is pretty much a scone - we use the terms interchangably.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
    Can someone please enlighten me,
    H

    scone would be the equivalent

    Not really - having eaten both. We Brits actually don't have an equivalent. Wish we did :sad:

    this might be a brit-vs-american-vs-canadian thing. What we Canucks call a biscuit is pretty much a scone - we use the terms interchangably.

    fight fight fight :laugh:
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

    Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

    Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

    If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

    Lol at you telling me how many of a particular item I get to eat. I have to eat 3500-4000 just to maintain and I can't have 4 biscuits? Please.

    A 12 oz can of soda can say 2 servings, does that make it true? Serving size is created by marketing departments so they can make calories seem smaller, not by the Lord of How Much I Can Eat

    I don't think the OP eats 3500-4000 cal

    Exactly. She ate a proportionally smaller amount than I would. I would have had jelly, 6 eggs and bacon along with OJ.

    Or 10 more cookies and a pint of ice cream. Have we determined if the OP is eating American biscuits or British biscuits?

    Either way, I bet she lives

    haha i bet you're right. :smile:

    unless shes allergic

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  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    For once, I don't actually disagree with you.....waits till he picks himself up off the floor......imo non partially hydrogenated shortening should be used...problem solved.

    so there ARE some foods that are worse than others? :wink:

    (not looking to fight, just joking with you)

    Clearly he wants to fight.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    For once, I don't actually disagree with you.....waits till he picks himself up off the floor......imo non partially hydrogenated shortening should be used...problem solved.

    so there ARE some foods that are worse than others? :wink:

    (not looking to fight, just joking with you)

    Clearly he wants to fight.

    DAMN RIGHT I DO!
  • ohyousillygirl
    ohyousillygirl Posts: 76 Member
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  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Individual food items are not inherently lipogenic on their own.