For those of you that invite others to objectify you:
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I my eye candy too!0
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The objectification happens whether we like it or not in public its just not openly said...
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It's a giggle, not serious.0
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OBJECTIFICATION!!!!!!!!!
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This teaches me that no means yes! And in public!0
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I invite objectification. My livelihood depends on it.0
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OBJECTIFICATION!!!!!!!!!
Oh no you didn't.
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OBJECTIFICATION!!!!!!!!!
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It's not serious , most 5s etc will get rated a 10.
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When you post things like "bang, date, marry?" or "cute, hot, or sexy?" and ask people to objectify you, you are training them to think of everyone around them in those terms. You invite them to make a value judgement of your body, and they begin to make those judgements about others. I speak not just on behalf of women but of everyone on this site. Our culture places way too much value on judgements about people. Is it not enough to just be what you are? Do you have to be "bangable" or "flirty" or have all of these other labels attached to you? And if you do, could you handle that somewhere other than a site for folks who aren't satisfied with their bodies anyways? I realize an ego boost is nice, and I don't mind getting ego boosts every so often, but maybe the place for that is your personal profile or a "hot or not" site.
I can't tell you guys what to post or what to think- the purpose of this post is to invite some discussion about how we create these labels and values for each other and ourselves even as they make us uncomfortable or sad. Many women feel that a "male-dominated culture" has set up these cages of self-judgement for them, but then they go out in pants that say "juicy" across their butts or ask others how hot they are from 1-10. I try really hard to avoid these types of discussions, firstly because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and secondly because I feel that I have value in and of myself, not just when I'm given a number or a name.
What do you guys think? Do you like it when people tell you you're a certain type of person? Do you like it when people rate you? Do you think others like it when you rate them?
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I love when the moral high grounders get involved with having fun.....really, can you please find some other cause to champion? Stick to defending things that cannot defend themselves....like trees, owls, or sea creatures. We are all adults here and we are well aware of our actions. Loosen up and have some fun!0
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I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
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your correct, of course. BUT sometimes its just fun and nice to say something nice to someone and maybe hear something nice.
we should all play nice
and for the record, 9 would date, would bang lol. x0 -
I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
needs a bang... dtf?0 -
I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
needs a bang... dtf?
Engaged and getting laid, sorry...! :laugh:0 -
seriously if it makes a girl or a guy feel better that someone said they were HOT, or would bang them or rated them a 10, what difference does it make to you?
A lot of people on here have self esteem issues, and to be told they are attractive or whatever really can make their day, why spoil the fun, you never know the person could be totally honest when they say this as well.
Not a matter of simple things amuse simple minds, I am far from simple and by partaking in these threads it is a release from the day to day stresses of work and life in general occasionally. Im not out there looking for an online affair or anything like that, just a smile or a laugh to brighten up my day and I happily will comment and brighten up someone elses day if I feel like it0 -
your correct, of course. BUT sometimes its just fun and nice to say something nice to someone and maybe hear something nice.
we should all play nice
and for the record, 9 would date, would bang lol. x
most definately bang, date and marry, god damn!0 -
A lot of people on here have self esteem issues, and to be told they are attractive or whatever really can make their day, why spoil the fun, you never know the person could be totally honest when they say this as well.
Exactly. A lot of people have self esteem issues, and subscribing to infantile "rating" systems where either getting a low score or getting a high score and then doubting it is hardly going to increase self esteem, is it? Anyway, if that's how you get your kicks by all means carry on, you're absolutely within your rights to do so just as others are within their rights to dislike the threads.0 -
swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?)
http://bit.ly/Jl8ueB0 -
swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?)
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I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
I agree with you that those forums are indeed ridiculous. Especially since it just seems to be the same 20 people over and over again saying they'd bang each other.
Where I disagree is that alot of very intelligent people did come on to this site not only to improve their health but also to improve their physical appearance. I think most of us would be lying if we said that we didn't enjoy being found attractive by other people. I don't that enjoying a compliment about one's physical appearance is simple minded and I don't think that giving someone a compliment is objectification.0 -
Fully agree with the OP. I never enter those type for that reason, I have a hard enough time accepting my own body most days even though I know I'm ok. I don't need some damn stranger telling me that I am not worthy of anything. Stuff that. I got pride in myself.0
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I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
I agree with you that those forums are indeed ridiculous. Especially since it just seems to be the same 20 people over and over again saying they'd bang each other.
Where I disagree is that alot of very intelligent people did come on to this site not only to improve their health but also to improve their physical appearance. I think most of us would be lying if we said that we didn't enjoy being found attractive by other people. I don't that enjoying a compliment about one's physical appearance is simple minded and I don't think that giving someone a compliment is objectification.
I don't think I said that giving someone a compliment = objectifying them. Of course we all love compliments and how they make us feel good about ourselves; we want to feel wanted, that's natural. We can easily compliment someone without reducing them to what we want to do to their body/genitals, though, and I think that's the point the OP was trying to make when she posted this thread. The rate/date/bang threads are entirely about reducing people to whether they make your penis twitch or not, surely there's more to giving each other compliments than that? For those who have low self-esteem, isn't being reduced to whether we're sexually desirable or not only going to perpetuate the myth that our self-esteem and desirability depends upon how hot some stranger on the internet thinks we are?0 -
I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
I agree with you that those forums are indeed ridiculous. Especially since it just seems to be the same 20 people over and over again saying they'd bang each other.
Where I disagree is that alot of very intelligent people did come on to this site not only to improve their health but also to improve their physical appearance. I think most of us would be lying if we said that we didn't enjoy being found attractive by other people. I don't that enjoying a compliment about one's physical appearance is simple minded and I don't think that giving someone a compliment is objectification.0 -
I don't think I said that giving someone a compliment = objectifying them. Of course we all love compliments and how they make us feel good about ourselves; we want to feel wanted, that's natural. We can easily compliment someone without reducing them to what we want to do to their body/genitals, though, and I think that's the point the OP was trying to make when she posted this thread. The rate/date/bang threads are entirely about reducing people to whether they make your penis twitch or not, surely there's more to giving each other compliments than that? For those who have low self-esteem, isn't being reduced to whether we're sexually desirable or not only going to perpetuate the myth that our self-esteem and desirability depends upon how hot some stranger on the internet thinks we are?
I think that is entirely up to the person receiving the compliment to make the decision as to whether or not they feel objectified. Not you or the OP.
The OP may not like a "compliment" in such a crude manner but it's not for her to start a thread criticising other people that don't find it offensive. We are all adults on this site and therefore are able to determine what compliments are offensive and what aren't.0 -
I thought most people grew out of compartmentalising or rating people according to their looks by the end of high school... :huh:
As a wiser woman said earlier in the thread, "simple things for simple minds". Everyone's free to think with their genitals, compare **** length and swoon over "forum hotties" (who can say if their avatars are truly pictures of them...?) in exactly the same way as others are free to not participate/laugh at the threads and those who take them seriously elsewhere.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "-1, wouldn't date, wouldn't bang" type replies.
If you think rating people by looks stops after high school you've never been in the business world. People who look better normally get more job more promotions etc etc etc. Most executives who are males are over 6'3" people who are thinner get hired more often people see people who are overweight and they assume they are lazy. Sorry but the world the cruel and everything that went on in high school happens out in the real world only difference is most people have learned how to be much more subtle about it.0 -
If you think rating people by looks stops after high school you've never been in the business world. People who look better normally get more job more promotions etc etc etc. Most executives who are males are over 6'3" people who are thinner get hired more often people see people who are overweight and they assume they are lazy. Sorry but the world the cruel and everything that went on in high school happens out in the real world only difference is most people have learned how to be much more subtle about it.
Unfortunately this is true. It is a manifestation of the "Halo Effect" which is an attribution fallacy.
What is beautiful is good ~ http://www4.uwsp.edu/psych/s/389/dion72.pdf0 -
If you think rating people by looks stops after high school you've never been in the business world. People who look better normally get more job more promotions etc etc etc. Most executives who are males are over 6'3" people who are thinner get hired more often people see people who are overweight and they assume they are lazy. Sorry but the world the cruel and everything that went on in high school happens out in the real world only difference is most people have learned how to be much more subtle about it.
Unfortunately this is true. It is a manifestation of the "Halo Effect" which is an attribution fallacy.
What is beautiful is good ~ http://www4.uwsp.edu/psych/s/389/dion72.pdf
The paper makes for some interesting reading, or at least I think it does given I've just had time to skim it. Bookmarking it for later, thanks for posting.0
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