As if There Weren't Enough Reasons to go Vegan
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Vegan cat food? Really?
Talk about taking away an animal's natural diet.
Cats should NOT be fed a vegan diet. It is extremely dangerous and can kill your cat.
Please read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/706563-feeding-a-cat-as-a-vegan0 -
Christians were persecuted and killed before gaining mainstream acceptance. I don't think getting flamed on an internet message board is *quite* the same.That's only because veganism hasn't existed as a movement for that long. "This silly vegan business" - Would you say Christianity etc. was silly, because it's about ethics and similar to a religion. You shouldn't be so ignorant.
But to put it in the same terms, you probably wouldn't take kindly to me espousing heavy Christian ideals on here as the only morally righteous way to live.
meggonkgonk wins the internet!!!0 -
I don't understand the point of this post and disagree with everything herein enough to actually make me reply to something on this site. (shudder)
I think everyone has their own personal reasons for the lifestyle they choose to live. I have many reasons why I am vegetarian but I choose not to share them or try to persuade anyone else to replicate my lifestyle because obviously, everyone else has THEIR own reasons for their lifestyle whether it be omnivore, carnivore and any other kind of -ism -ore -arian. And obviously since the reason that I am so persuaded in my lifestyle is a cause of my own beliefs, anyone else that has their own different beliefs will be equally as persuaded in their own.
The OP should have put this in the Vegan Group where it would be met with support. Posting it in the general forums clearly was just to get loads of responses. In other words....Troooollllllll.
Excuse my grammar0 -
these threads never stop as soon as 1 ends within a day another starts.
Back when I first went vegan in 1974, there wasn't breaking nutrition news most days of the week, like there is now. I would say the reason these threads seem endless is because the topic comes up a lot in the media. Several books on the diet best-seller list for 2012 are on veganism. So the topic is hot, just as paleo is right now.0 -
pretty sure bob harper is eating meat now0
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You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.0 -
You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:0 -
LOL @ shock wave0
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Christians were persecuted and killed before gaining mainstream acceptance. I don't think getting flamed on an internet message board is *quite* the same.That's only because veganism hasn't existed as a movement for that long. "This silly vegan business" - Would you say Christianity etc. was silly, because it's about ethics and similar to a religion. You shouldn't be so ignorant.
But to put it in the same terms, you probably wouldn't take kindly to me espousing heavy Christian ideals on here as the only morally righteous way to live.
meggonkgonk wins the internet!!!
You like me! You really like me! :blushing: I have so many people to thank for this internet...0 -
here are some good reasons.... http://nutritionfacts.org/video/uprooting-the-leading-causes-of-death/
you know, reducing your risk of dying of the things most people in our meat eating society die of...! if it's normal to drop dead of a heart attack, then maybe you should be rethinking 'normal'...0 -
here are some good reasons.... http://nutritionfacts.org/video/uprooting-the-leading-causes-of-death/
you know, reducing your risk of dying of the things most people in our meat eating society die of...! if it's normal to drop dead of a heart attack, then maybe you should be rethinking 'normal'...
We all die eventually. Vegans and meat eaters alike die of heart disease and cancer.
If you want to be vegan, you should be. If you want to eat meat you should. You should do what you want to do, because the reality is, you could die tomorrow from any number of causes.0 -
Too much of anything is not healthy for anyone or thing including water. So what is the point of this again? I respect those who are vegetarian and enjoy a meatless day even weeks, but I hate restricting myself from eating what I love and when I want a good piece of beef, chicken, fish/shellfish or pork I eat it.0
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Most vegans that i know have been meat eaters, and then tried being vegan, and liked it better. When we try to share that information with others, we are called a cult and things like that. I used to feel the same way about crazy hippy vegans, but that was because i had never given an animal-product-free diet a proper trial.You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:
What if you had found a way to a longer and happier life and then shared it with me, but instead of being grateful, i laughed at you and called you "coo coo"?0 -
here are some good reasons.... http://nutritionfacts.org/video/uprooting-the-leading-causes-of-death/
you know, reducing your risk of dying of the things most people in our meat eating society die of...! if it's normal to drop dead of a heart attack, then maybe you should be rethinking 'normal'...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/08/worlds-oldest-person-besse-cooper-turns-116/
"I mind my own business and I don't eat junk food."
Fantastic advice from Ms. Besse Cooper0 -
Most vegans that i know have been meat eaters, and then tried being vegan, and liked it better. When we try to share that information with others, we are called a cult and things like that. I used to feel the same way about crazy hippy vegans, but that was because i had never given an animal-product-free diet a proper trial.You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:
What if you had found a way to a longer and happier life and then shared it with me, but instead of being grateful, i laughed at you and called you "coo coo"?
The Paleo people say the same thing. That they are living longer happier lives eating meat.
Why does either group believe it is the ONLY way?
That is the issue. It's great that you feel healthier and are happy. But there are people who are just as happy eating meat and healthy eating meat.0 -
Personally, i like the paleo diet, other than the meat. They eat a lot of whole, unprocessed, plant based foods. We can go back and forth on meat, and whether it's natural, or healthy to eat, but the one thing that all diet styles seem to agree on is this: Fruits and vegetables are good. The more whole raw unprocessed plant food you eat, the better you will be. If a person goes from eating the standard American diet, to eating an unprocessed "Paleo" diet, that includes some meat, as well as fresh greens, and fruits, they are eating a lot better than they were previously, and will feel tons better. I still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
Most vegans that i know have been meat eaters, and then tried being vegan, and liked it better. When we try to share that information with others, we are called a cult and things like that. I used to feel the same way about crazy hippy vegans, but that was because i had never given an animal-product-free diet a proper trial.You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:
What if you had found a way to a longer and happier life and then shared it with me, but instead of being grateful, i laughed at you and called you "coo coo"?
The Paleo people say the same thing. That they are living longer happier lives eating meat.
Why does either group believe it is the ONLY way?
That is the issue. It's great that you feel healthier and are happy. But there are people who are just as happy eating meat and healthy eating meat.0 -
still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?0 -
Personally, i like the paleo diet, other than the meat. They eat a lot of whole, unprocessed, plant based foods. We can go back and forth on meat, and whether it's natural, or healthy to eat, but the one thing that all diet styles seem to agree on is this: Fruits and vegetables are good. The more whole raw unprocessed plant food you eat, the better you will be. If a person goes from eating the standard American diet, to eating an unprocessed "Paleo" diet, that includes some meat, as well as fresh greens, and fruits, they are eating a lot better than they were previously, and will feel tons better. I still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
Most vegans that i know have been meat eaters, and then tried being vegan, and liked it better. When we try to share that information with others, we are called a cult and things like that. I used to feel the same way about crazy hippy vegans, but that was because i had never given an animal-product-free diet a proper trial.You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:
What if you had found a way to a longer and happier life and then shared it with me, but instead of being grateful, i laughed at you and called you "coo coo"?
The Paleo people say the same thing. That they are living longer happier lives eating meat.
Why does either group believe it is the ONLY way?
That is the issue. It's great that you feel healthier and are happy. But there are people who are just as happy eating meat and healthy eating meat.
But that is where you are wrong. Not everyone who goes Paleo or Vegan feels tons better. Many feel exactly the same. It's great that you felt tons better, but don't assume that everyone will.
Likewise, with cholesterol numbers, etc. Those who go Vegan say "look how much better my numbers are". Those who go Paleo say "look how much better my numbers are". Those who just eat a typical "balanced" diet also say "look how much better my numbers are."
When it comes to diets, everyone has their favorite. What works for you won't necessarily work for someone else.
While you believe the optimal human diet includes very little meat, Paleo's and other low carbers believe the opposite to be true. What both groups have in common--decreased calorie intake and decreased weight.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?0 -
Many people do it wrong. Many people who make the switch don't eat enough overall calories, or they eat too many grains, or too many nuts. NO MATTER WHAT BODY TYPE YOU ARE: Your health will improve if you include more fruits and vegetables in your diet.Not everyone who goes Paleo or Vegan feels tons better. Many feel exactly the same.0 -
Most vegans that i know have been meat eaters, and then tried being vegan, and liked it better. When we try to share that information with others, we are called a cult and things like that. I used to feel the same way about crazy hippy vegans, but that was because i had never given an animal-product-free diet a proper trial.You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:
What if you had found a way to a longer and happier life and then shared it with me, but instead of being grateful, i laughed at you and called you "coo coo"?
Thing is I am happy the way I eat and I am way happy in life. One major difference between me and Vegan cult nuts is that I don't go running around using an experiment on a mouse and claiming it to be another reason to go Vegan to convert people to your extremist beliefs and using that really bad example about some mouse getting fat from a substance in meat.... really??? Or try to convert the every one in the world not to eat any more meat or use any type of animal products in cloths or what ever because they are poor little animals. Most of us omnivorous people don't go running around all coo coo trying to get people to change their ways and or lifestyles and to try to convert folks to join some cult group with extremist ways, so yes because of that added cult like approach tward's others it makes you vegan's sound coo coo.
Oh btw we are not mice. :smokin:
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Many people do it wrong. Many people who make the switch don't eat enough overall calories, or they eat too many grains, or too many nuts. NO MATTER WHAT BODY TYPE YOU ARE: Your health will improve if you include more fruits and vegetables in your diet.Not everyone who goes Paleo or Vegan feels tons better. Many feel exactly the same.
Now you are making a different argument. Although, I still don't agree. First you said no meat. Now you're saying increase fruits and veggies.
You believe what you want. And tell people it works great for you. Just don't expect everyone to jump on your wagon and cheer.0 -
You don't agree that fruits and vegetables are good for you? Wow. Good luck to you.Now you are making a different argument. Although, I still don't agree. First you said no meat. Now you're saying increase fruits and veggies.
You believe what you want. And tell people it works great for you. Just don't expect everyone to jump on your wagon and cheer.0 -
Geez this is like my step mom telling me humans have the digestive tract similar to that of a cow, and that we are to graze on grass like cows because we do not have canine teeth like wild animals (which uh yeah we do!)
hahaha oh my gosh, this part killed me! That's hilarious.. humans digestive tracts are so different than ruminant animals! Ahhh.. too funny.
I guess everyone else is giving their two cents, so I may as well give mine (pennies are becoming outdated soon anyway). I've been vegetarian for 9 years now initially due to animal welfare reasons (factory farming). I in no way look at myself to be superior than a person that eats meat. I just think that it is important that people know where their food comes from. It's fine that you want to eat meat, but I think that we should respect the animals that we are consuming. This means giving them an environment that provides adequate space, shelter, diet, etc. It just upsets me seeing animals confined and viewed as meat producing machines rather than actual living beings.
I have great respect for those who are able to raise their own animals for consumption because they know exactly what is being put into that animals body and how it was treated prior to slaughter. It's the quality of life that matters to me.0 -
Most vegans that i know have been meat eaters, and then tried being vegan, and liked it better. When we try to share that information with others, we are called a cult and things like that. I used to feel the same way about crazy hippy vegans, but that was because i had never given an animal-product-free diet a proper trial.You could NOT come up with enough reasons to make me give up meat. I love it. Chicken is the bomb and steaks yeah I want them still mooing when they get put in front of me. And don't get me started on the pig meat, just the thought makes me drool.
But hey you go for it.
I agree but it seems like the whole Vegan cult coo coo izm wants every one to quit eating meat and maybe drink the cool aid at Jones town.. :drinker:
What if you had found a way to a longer and happier life and then shared it with me, but instead of being grateful, i laughed at you and called you "coo coo"?
Thing is I am happy the way I eat and I am way happy in life. One major difference between me and Vegan cult nuts is that I don't go running around using an experiment on a mouse and claiming it to be another reason to go Vegan to convert people to your extremist beliefs and using that really bad example about some mouse getting fat from a substance in meat.... really??? Or try to convert the every one in the world not to eat any more meat or use any type of animal products in cloths or what ever because they are poor little animals. Most of us omnivorous people don't go running around all coo coo trying to get people to change their ways and or lifestyles and to try to convert folks to join some cult group with extremist ways, so yes because of that added cult like approach tward's others it makes you vegan's sound coo coo.
Oh btw we are not mice.
Er... I hope you realise that the vast majority of modern medicines are tested on mice.0 -
All the vegans I know smell funny and hate sports.
Obvious troll is obvious...0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
What...?0 -
Animal testing to prove a vegan diet?
lol
See the irony here. lmao0 -
You do realize that mice are primarily herbivores? The way their bodies react to meat is very different from how we would react to it.
Why would our bodies react differently? There is a reason mice are used for so much testing. Humans are born herbivores my friend. We just simply choose to ignore what our bodies are designed for in favor of what satisfies our pleasure center. Check out this link:
http://www.waoy.org/26.html0
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