Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out

The NRA (National Rifle Association) is far and away THE most powerful political lobby in the US, and work very hard to convince otherwise rational Americans that their right to own firearms is under constant threat. It isn't.

This is why you carry a gun. For all of those who say I live in a quiet, safe area you probably due. And your chance of being a crime victim is extremely low (just as it is for most people). I personally have been mugged twice in 49 years and both times simply drawing my weapon caused the assailant to decide it would be better to be somewhere else.

Just found out my baby sister was mugged yesterday while out jogging in St Augustine, FL. ****ers took her cell phone and wedding/engagement rings but thankfully didnt touch her - it was broad daylight in a nice neighborhood. She said it happened very fast- car pulled up in front of her, the two urban yutes got out the passenger doors, displayed a knife, said "give me the phone and rings *****", back in car and gone. She realizes that she is uber lucky not to have been snatched.

The only happy ending was they did catch the *kitten* fairly quickly- someone saw it go down from their house, called the cops and a patrol car was nearby. The neighbors that saw it go down came out and took my sister into their home as she went hysterical. There were three gang members between the ages of 15 and 17 - she IDed the two, recovered her rings and cell phone and the entire time she was being cursed out by these yutes who claimed alternately that they found everything on a bench or that they bought the items from her. In the car she said the cops pulled out some other loot from others they had mugged in the general area over the previous hour (which is why a patrol car was nearby apparently- they were trying to find them)

She normally carries but decided "she didnt need a pistol" on her while simply running around her white picket fence neighborhood at 9 AM. That attitude has now changed and she is going to run with a fanny pack or belly band that has quick access to the gun. Being Florida she runs typically in underamor compression gear (shorts and tank top). Her normal carry piece is a Combat Commander but she is going out shopping for a smaller, lighter piece tonight.

For running I told her to look at something in stainless and/or polymer with a stainless slide due to sweat.

This is why you carry a gun. For all of those who say I live in a quiet, safe area you probably due. And your chance of being a crime victim is extremely low (just as it is for most people). I personally have been mugged twice in 49 years and both times simply drawing my weapon caused the assailant to decide it would be better to be somewhere else.

Just found out my baby sister was mugged yesterday while out jogging in St Augustine, FL. ****ers took her cell phone and wedding/engagement rings but thankfully didnt touch her - it was broad daylight in a nice neighborhood. She said it happened very fast- car pulled up in front of her, the two urban yutes got out the passenger doors, displayed a knife, said "give me the phone and rings *****", back in car and gone. She realizes that she is uber lucky not to have been snatched.

The only happy ending was they did catch the *kitten* fairly quickly- someone saw it go down from their house, called the cops and a patrol car was nearby. The neighbors that saw it go down came out and took my sister into their home as she went hysterical. There were three gang members between the ages of 15 and 17 - she IDed the two, recovered her rings and cell phone and the entire time she was being cursed out by these yutes who claimed alternately that they found everything on a bench or that they bought the items from her. In the car she said the cops pulled out some other loot from others they had mugged in the general area over the previous hour (which is why a patrol car was nearby apparently- they were trying to find them)

She normally carries but decided "she didnt need a pistol" on her while simply running around her white picket fence neighborhood at 9 AM. That attitude has now changed and she is going to run with a fanny pack or belly band that has quick access to the gun. Being Florida she runs typically in underamor compression gear (shorts and tank top). Her normal carry piece is a Combat Commander but she is going out shopping for a smaller, lighter piece tonight.

For running I told her to look at something in stainless and/or polymer with a stainless slide due to sweat.

So she was unharmed, and they caught the perpetuators. OK.

And better would have been for her to pull out a weapon and start firing at 3 gang members?? Probably ending up in the hospital, possibly dead, with massive hospital/legal bills, and that's all assuming she didn't accidentally kill any innocent bystanders.

For every one attack that is prevented thanks to the jogger carrying a weapon, there are probably two or three more accidental deaths or serious injuries from the same people leaving the gun around unattended, or shooting themselves in the foot, or whatever. Not to mention more people jogging in dangerous areas thinking a gun will help them, when in reality they are attacked before they even have a chance to pull out their gun.

It's mainly posturing. People are watching too many Clint Eastwood movies, with a secret fantasy to make someone's day.

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This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read in my life.

The ignorance of people that think that everyone in America has a gun, we all run around waving them everywhere, and that people basically think that we can go to Target and buy one off the shelf.

Hilarious.

Are we so very wrong? Here's a satellite TV company offering a free gun (or pizza!) with every purchase: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/montana-radio-shack-offers-free-gun-or-pizza-with-satellite-tv-purchase/

And here's a car dealership doing the same: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7416120.stm

(WHY aren't links live on MFP?)

Just read about major gun Crimes in France and Canada in the last two days...Glad they don't have any violent crimes there.

Even terrorists maybe want to lose some weight. It's a valid question and nobody knows the OP's business but the OP.

I find this whole thread extremely fascinating. The difference between the rest of the world and Americans is kind of in glaring proof here.

Yes you guys have provided links to articles of gun violence in other countries but you'll note the majority of posters from other countries don't see the need to carry a gun - it's a foreign concept to them. This should speak far more loudly then any articles.

Whereas many of the Americans on this page not only express a desire to have a gun but many of them already DO have one.

I'm not making judgments, just pointing out what I'm reading in all these pages and I think it's rather interesting and telling.

I find this whole thread extremely fascinating. The difference between the rest of the world and Americans is kind of in glaring proof here.

Yes you guys have provided links to articles of gun violence in other countries but you'll note the majority of posters from other countries don't see the need to carry a gun - it's a foreign concept to them. This should speak far more loudly then any articles.

Whereas many of the Americans on this page not only express a desire to have a gun but many of them already DO have one.

I'm not making judgments, just pointing out what I'm reading in all these pages and I think it's rather interesting and telling.

Imagine the London riots plus guns - you think it would have been BETTER?

The idea of normal people going running with guns strapped to them is absolutely mind-boggling and terrifying to me, and reminds me that for all our similarities, the UK and America are very different places.

If I was running in a rough area I might take a rape alarm I guess.

I agree with you completely and I am an American living in Chicago, where crime is rampant and concealed carry is illegal. My personal opinion is that maybe if those criminals didn't have such easy access to guns then there wouldn't be so many shootings. Carrying a weapon seems completely unnecessary to me--I feel it would more likely be used against me than anything else or because of the wind I feel that mace or pepper spray would end up in my face instead. It kind of boggles my mind that anyone would carry a gun when running.

I find this whole thread extremely fascinating. The difference between the rest of the world and Americans is kind of in glaring proof here.

Yes you guys have provided links to articles of gun violence in other countries but you'll note the majority of posters from other countries don't see the need to carry a gun - it's a foreign concept to them. This should speak far more loudly then any articles.

Whereas many of the Americans on this page not only express a desire to have a gun but many of them already DO have one.

I'm not making judgments, just pointing out what I'm reading in all these pages and I think it's rather interesting and telling.

you're forgetting that the far majority of Americans that dont have a pistol, or are not interested in them, are not going to even open this thread.

they already know the basic argument that always arises from the topic.

Oh god, this topic really depresses me I live in inner city Chicago, am a woman, and sometimes have to run at night - but I will NEVER carry a gun, much less own one. This is such an incendiary topic in the U.S., I'm reluctant to weigh in here, but I must say this - I work in one of the most crime-ridden neighborhoods in this city (I'm a social worker), and where I live ain't so great either - but I totally reject gun culture. If you must carry a gun while running - plz stay clear of me - I wouldn't want to be mistaken for an assailant and lose my life!

Why not practice safe running habits (already suggested above, I'm sure), like running with a partner, etc. There is a foldable stick thang that some female runners I know carry along for their runs - can't remember the name - might not be a bad thing to consider buying.

Sticks and my partner arent' going to take care of wildlife...

I don't own a weapon. I opened this thread because I was curious how one would safely carry a weapon while running. It just seems very dangerous to me. I still haven't seen any kind of 'concealed' holster that truly seems safe.

You only need one basic thing to carry concealed safely- the weapon must by held securely typically with a strap over the backstrap area of the weapon and the trigger area covered.

I personally own a number of holsters that are "open" (i.e. no strap) but due to their design they more then adequately retain the weapon even while flat out running (but even then I would put my hand on the grip of the weapon to ensure retention). When I jog the weapon is in a more secure holster with a retention strap.

Many of the options presented are quite secure as a point of fact.

But criminals carry guns with the purpose of using them against a person. How is defending yourself from it "wacky"?