When you see a guy with a really great physique...

I would say nothing just do something

I usually just turn the thermostat up and wait for him to take his shirt off. Mwahaha

Honestly, most of them are cocky. But I noticed that if they achieved much more than just gaining muscle ( ex. losing a hundred lbs and then getting shredded ) they seem to be nicer to those whom are actually trying rather than look at them as if they had no chance.

Yes, honesty speaks volumes. Being strong and fit makes me feel good, as I'm sure it does to everyone... It however is not my main focus. I also have adopted a son in a wheelchair and when he's 150 lbs I will still need to be able to lift him. I have many reasons why I lift. If I ever had to have a man's activities become my "favorite pastime" I would realize my own insecurities. I don't need to be the center of attention however I don't need a man to complete me either. I have the right balance.

I agree that a healthy mind is just as important as a healthy body. Therefore one should try to have some other interests and activities outside of the gym. But in your original post you came off extremely judgemental implying that BECAUSE someone did have a "perfect body" they automatically were a self involved tosspot who did nothing but spend "hours" at the gym everyday staring at themselves in the mirror.

This is quoted from YOUR profile:

"OK, I am going to be real here... I am a little vain. Not high maintenance... actually the exact opposite, but I love the confidence I have walking into a room when I am strong and in shape, and yes, I like the looks. I know that sounds AWFUL! but honest. "

Wouldn't it be fair to assume that many of the men you are calling self obsessed are perhaps working out for the same reasons you are?

. That's my point exactly. It's all about balance. The original question had to do with guys with the perfect body... Not guys that workout for an hour a day, bit the guys I see at the gym every day for hours.... The ones gawking at themselves in the mirror obsessively while feeling their pecks... LOL.... Yes, it happens. I talk to those kinds every day... They are fine to chit chat with, but never to date... They have no substance... Being strong physically and mentally is an attractive quality.... And yes, even a little cockiness is sexy, but that wasn't the OP's initial question. I was simply stating that chubby guys have to develope a great personality in order "to compete" with the meatheads.

I think most people would be cocky if they worked their butt off and lived off egg whites and chicken breast in order to get ripped. It's well earned.

all i know is that being heavy for most of my life....if I ended up getting as ripped as my avatar, i would definitely show off my hard work! Not to the point of being arrogant though....just proud that I went from a fat mess to the dude in my avatar.

I'm the guy you see at the beach with either a tshirt on or ttrying to cover myself up with a tube or something. Hopefully by Oct '13 I can walk around a little better with no shirt on.

I agree! I definitely worked out in a sports bra when I was thin and it was hot out (or you know, if it wasn't hot out and I just felt like it lol)

I don't think because in my mind I am all over him like a spider monkey!

arrogance = thinking you are better than someone

confidence = KNOWING you are

...do you automatically think "he must be an a-hole" or you don't judge?

When you have a body as awesome as I do, people tend to think I'm a stuck up a-hole until they get to know me and realize I'm a nice guy.

hehehe .. I admire and lust after him .. however .. I hope there's more to him than just his ripped body. Like a good mind and one hell of a fantastic sense of humor. Adventurous .. hints of ability to be serious .. but not take himself too seriously. Playful ..

and most important .. accepting of me for who I am :drinker:

...do you automatically think "he must be an a-hole" or you don't judge?

When you have a body as awesome as I do, people tend to think I'm a stuck up a-hole until they get to know me and realize I'm a nice guy.

i think i kinda judge and assume he has an ego the size of his muscles. Unfortunately, most I have met have been that way and sorry for judging because I know better.

I have a lot of guy friends. I know a few good ones who are insanely in shape and they are very sweet and humble. I don't exactly look like a model and they treat me amazingly and respect me, great friends. I also know a lot of arrogant a-holes and they make it known they are the best thing going. Regardless, not all are bad.

BAHAHAHA....

You didn't!!! :laugh:

Ok, now I'll go read some of the responses. Only you!

Naw. I automatically think that I should a) Get some tips and b) Need to slim down a hellofalot more before having a chance.
After I'm done quietly checking them out, ofc.