Please stop…I beg of you…

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  • lisamarie2181
    lisamarie2181 Posts: 560 Member
    I had a similar rant with a vegan friend of mine a while ago.

    Mashing up chickpeas into a patty does not make it a steak.
    Etc. etc.

    In addition to it being an abomination I was also genuinely interested in why an individual who loathes the meat industry would attempt to mock it at every turn. Sadly, this turned into a HUGE argument and terminated our 20+ year friendship. Awesome.

    People just really love their made up foods.

    I never really understood naming plant based concoctions the same as meat. I don't call my slices of tofu "tofu steaks," I just call it tofu. Otherwise it just confuses people. I also never really understood trying to make vegan products that taste like real meat. Maybe it's just me because I became vegan because I don't like meat (and am intolerant to milk and eggs), so I would never want something that tasted like it. Sorry you lost your friendship :brokenheart:

    I would think the reasoning behind this is because not everyone that goes veggie or vegan do it for ethical reasons, some do it for health related issues, so I think it helps some people that need to give these things up some "comfort foods".

    I eat pescatarian and will like to go vegan eventually, but I do it for health reasons, and am more aware of the ethical reasons, but I can't lie, I love meat. But if this is something that can help with my medical condition, then I'm willing to try. I chose not to eat those things mainly because they are made out of soy (the majority), and having PCOS GMO soy is not a good option, and because they are highly processed.

    Just my 2 cents. I see this question asked a lot and true a lot of vegans are vegan (or veggie) because they don't want to eat animals, but some do it for medical reasons and I think this makes things easier for a lot of people, especially the dairy stuff.
  • LaSutopia
    LaSutopia Posts: 1,164 Member
    Someone had to say it

    ^^ This. Thank you OP. You're doing the world a great service, however, I do think that sometimes hamburger buns can be substituted:

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    I agree:

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    OMG THIS!!! LOL!! I have seen the donuts one, but the grilled cheese? YES! lol
  • I made sushi with cauliflower instead of rice and I really didn't notice much difference:

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    First time making sushi. It doesn't look pretty but it was delicious!

    :smile:

    That's creative and interesting. It is not, however, "sushi" by any standard. And that's pretty much the theme here. If you can find a way to make something a little better, then feel free, but don't destroy the essence of a particular type of food and then continue to call it by the original name. Random ingredients rolled in nori does not sushi make.

    Amen...sushi by its name requires a perfect blend of rice and vinegar to compliment typically a fish protein. To call this sushi is an insult to the years if not decades a true sushi chefs spends culitvating his craft. What you made is a Maki but by no means is it sushi
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I guess one of my problems with the "healthier substitute" crowd is the perpetuation of the belief that that applesauce is inherently healthier than butter...and that egg whites are inherently healthier than whole eggs.

    QFT




    Jof, how did I end up quoting you twice in the same thread? :laugh:

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    (I almost missed this startling revelation.)

    Indeed. We truly must be in the end times.

    If you listen closely, you can probably hear the horsemen saddling up.
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,473 Member
    I've eaten low-carb in the past, and found it useful to use substitutions for high-carb foods. Courgettes sliced with a vegetable slicer made an acceptable "pasta", I remember. I don't eat low-carb now, but I enjoyed having a go at the banana pancakes, because I'm not a fan of the texture of pancakes and this made them more acceptable and added some protein. I think it's great that people post these recipes. Thank you! I also used to eat various substitutes when I was vegan and vegetarian (lentil burgers, nut roasts, "fish" pie made with mushrooms, etc. etc.). I didn't call them meat but I did make them into products that looked more like meat products!

    I suppose it would be nice if there was a warning when the thing really isn't anywhere near as nice as the REAL thing, because I'd rather spend my time cooking something else than slave over a bad substitute. It would also be nice to make it clear that it's a fake in the recipe title. I was disappointed to click on a recipe for "wings" to find that no actual wings were included! But if "chicken" was substituted for "wings" (or even if it was written as "wings" in inverted comments), I'd know what to expect.

    Those are minor considerations though, and I'm grateful to the people who share good recipes.
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    I guess one of my problems with the "healthier substitute" crowd is the perpetuation of the belief that that applesauce is inherently healthier than butter...and that egg whites are inherently healthier than whole eggs.

    QFT




    Jof, how did I end up quoting you twice in the same thread? :laugh:

    apocalypse.jpg

    (I almost missed this startling revelation.)

    Indeed. We truly must be in the end times.

    If you listen closely, you can probably hear the horsemen saddling up.

    I am now truly and utterly terrified....
  • rochellena
    rochellena Posts: 49 Member
    Eh, personally I don't use these names because I'm trying "get away with something," and I have no problem splurging and eating all the delicious, greasy, salty delicacies when I want to. I enjoy turkey bacon and I enjoy banana pancakes.. I call it turkey bacon because on the occasions I eat it, I eat with my eggs for breakfast just like I do when I eat regular bacon. I call it a banana pancake because it looks similar to pancake, I cook it in a similar way, I put similar toppings on it (peanut butter and syrup or strawberries and whipped cream), and I like to serve them on for breakfast. I'm not trying to trick myself and I'm not obsessing over the idea of "healthy vs unhealthy" foods. I just call it that because they serve similar purposes. Besides, considering I live in a place where the majority of people I know think that green bell peppers are called "mangoes," I feel like I'm not doing too bad.

    To each his own though.
  • Sara2184
    Sara2184 Posts: 183 Member
    Someone had to say it

    ^^ This. Thank you OP. You're doing the world a great service, however, I do think that sometimes hamburger buns can be substituted:

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    OMG My cholesterol just went up & my heart went into hiding
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I made sushi with cauliflower instead of rice and I really didn't notice much difference:

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    First time making sushi. It doesn't look pretty but it was delicious!

    :smile:

    That's creative and interesting. It is not, however, "sushi" by any standard. And that's pretty much the theme here. If you can find a way to make something a little better, then feel free, but don't destroy the essence of a particular type of food and then continue to call it by the original name. Random ingredients rolled in nori does not sushi make.


    Amen...sushi by its name requires a perfect blend of rice and vinegar to compliment typically a fish protein. To call this sushi is an insult to the years if not decades a true sushi chefs spends culitvating his craft. What you made is a Maki but by no means is it sushi

    Nice idea but no. That's not sushi. -.- No. Just no. -.- :noway:
  • Angimom
    Angimom Posts: 1,463 Member
    Someone had to say it

    ^^ This. Thank you OP. You're doing the world a great service, however, I do think that sometimes hamburger buns can be substituted:

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    THIS IS SOOOOO FUNNNNNY!
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    thanks OP!

    i wonder about people's taste buds and palettes with some of these substitutions that they can say it's tastes like whatever it's substituting.

    no sorry mashed cauliflower does not taste like mashed potatoes. yogurt does not taste like mayo..

    as for that "sushi" i'd flip the table over if someone sat that in front of me and called it sushi. it might delicious, but do not call it something it isnt
  • Hinxx
    Hinxx Posts: 93 Member
    I made sushi with cauliflower instead of rice and I really didn't notice much difference:

    35an8dc.jpg

    First time making sushi. It doesn't look pretty but it was delicious!

    :smile:

    That's creative and interesting. It is not, however, "sushi" by any standard. And that's pretty much the theme here. If you can find a way to make something a little better, then feel free, but don't destroy the essence of a particular type of food and then continue to call it by the original name. Random ingredients rolled in nori does not sushi make.

    Amen...sushi by its name requires a perfect blend of rice and vinegar to compliment typically a fish protein. To call this sushi is an insult to the years if not decades a true sushi chefs spends culitvating his craft. What you made is a Maki but by no means is it sushi

    You're right, it's not sushi. I sincerely apologize. Next time, I'll call it my "seaweed, salmon, cream cheese, avocado rolls with cauliflower". Is that better? :wink:
  • sunsnstatheart
    sunsnstatheart Posts: 2,544 Member
    I made sushi with cauliflower instead of rice and I really didn't notice much difference:

    35an8dc.jpg

    First time making sushi. It doesn't look pretty but it was delicious!

    :smile:

    That's creative and interesting. It is not, however, "sushi" by any standard. And that's pretty much the theme here. If you can find a way to make something a little better, then feel free, but don't destroy the essence of a particular type of food and then continue to call it by the original name. Random ingredients rolled in nori does not sushi make.

    Amen...sushi by its name requires a perfect blend of rice and vinegar to compliment typically a fish protein. To call this sushi is an insult to the years if not decades a true sushi chefs spends culitvating his craft. What you made is a Maki but by no means is it sushi

    You're right, it's not sushi. I sincerely apologize. Next time, I'll call it my "seaweed, salmon, cream cheese, avocado rolls with cauliflower". Is that better? :wink:

    We're good. Thank you! :flowerforyou:
  • MorgueBabe
    MorgueBabe Posts: 1,188 Member
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  • Hinxx
    Hinxx Posts: 93 Member
    I made sushi with cauliflower instead of rice and I really didn't notice much difference:

    35an8dc.jpg

    First time making sushi. It doesn't look pretty but it was delicious!

    :smile:

    That's creative and interesting. It is not, however, "sushi" by any standard. And that's pretty much the theme here. If you can find a way to make something a little better, then feel free, but don't destroy the essence of a particular type of food and then continue to call it by the original name. Random ingredients rolled in nori does not sushi make.

    Amen...sushi by its name requires a perfect blend of rice and vinegar to compliment typically a fish protein. To call this sushi is an insult to the years if not decades a true sushi chefs spends culitvating his craft. What you made is a Maki but by no means is it sushi

    You're right, it's not sushi. I sincerely apologize. Next time, I'll call it my "seaweed, salmon, cream cheese, avocado rolls with cauliflower". Is that better? :wink:

    We're good. Thank you! :flowerforyou:

    No problem. :)
  • brownshuga30
    brownshuga30 Posts: 106 Member
    LOL!!
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  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member

    You're right, it's not sushi. I sincerely apologize. Next time, I'll call it my "seaweed, salmon, cream cheese, avocado rolls with cauliflower". Is that better? :wink:

    Yes - that would be perfect.


    I'm going to have some real sushi for Valentine's Day, and I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member

    You're right, it's not sushi. I sincerely apologize. Next time, I'll call it my "seaweed, salmon, cream cheese, avocado rolls with cauliflower". Is that better? :wink:

    Yes..if you want to call it a roll of whatever name..cool. Just not sushi. :flowerforyou:
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    I'm guessing people who don't like these topics also don't like Lewis Black.
  • LauraMacNCheese
    LauraMacNCheese Posts: 7,173 Member
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    I'm guessing people who don't like these topics also don't like Lewis Black.

    :heart:
  • metaphoria
    metaphoria Posts: 1,432 Member
    So what is the general opinion of protein powder ice cream? Is it worth a shot?
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
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    I'm guessing people who don't like these topics also don't like Lewis Black.

    Lewis Black is the ****ing man...that is all.
  • JossFit
    JossFit Posts: 588 Member
    So what is the general opinion of protein powder ice cream? Is it worth a shot?

    Its not "ice cream" though...

    Blended frozen treat? Yes. I'll be having some later. :)
  • OneDimSim
    OneDimSim Posts: 188 Member
    Amen to that!
  • laura328
    laura328 Posts: 136 Member
    Except that cauliflower pizza crust is da bomb. Srsly

    yup! pain in the butt to make but gooooood!
  • LondonEliza
    LondonEliza Posts: 456 Member
    I like substitutes ....

    here I have substituted muck and mud for chocolate and mashed up dark biscuits

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    Dirt Cake

    Am I doing it right?
  • If I squeeze a cauliflower and it drips, can I log that as water?

    LMAO!
  • RachelFrost1
    RachelFrost1 Posts: 46 Member
    I'll eat what I want to eat, and you eat what you want to eat. I think we know which one of us will be the healthier one.
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,749 Member
    In all seriousness:

    Why does it matter?

    If I like spaghetti squash and want to share a good recipe, why should you care that it doesn't taste like spaghetti?

    Personally I am all for trying new foods and recipes that are healthy. I'm not going to make myself believe that mashed cauliflower tastes like mashed potatoes or zucchini tots are JUST LIKE tater tots but I'll give both a chance and if they're good then yes. I will use them as a substitute and if they're nasty then I just won't make them again and I won't make a post about how nasty they are and beg people to please stop because someone might like it.

    To each their own. Seriously. If you don't like it then don't eat it.
  • zorbaru
    zorbaru Posts: 1,077 Member
    because people come on here and say "try this alternative, it tastes just like the original" when infact it tastes nothing like the original.

    its fine if you like it, its fine to post recipes, but dont say something is an alternative to another when it quite obviously isnt.