Is bread generally fattening?

1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

I think the problem is biscuits means different thing - to me (British) they mean cookies. So 4 is not a binge.

That's a binge? Maybe you were deprived too long.

Having read the replies, I learn something every day. So the question is: where is the OPer from?

Having read the replies, I learn something every day. So the question is: where is the OPer from?

She's an 18-year old little girl who wants to lose 12 lbs., and needs to be reassured that eating 4 cookies won't make her fat (but it's still probably healthier if she ate something else with more nutrition instead of cookies. IMHO).

Eating bread within your calorie and macro goals - no. Eating bread at a caloric surplus - absolutely yes, it is "fattening". Same goes with any other food you consume.

^^^ This, bread is not more fattening that fat, that's total BS.

If it fits in your calorie goal it will be fine - it doesn't magically turn into fat or suddenly gain more calories.

Seconded.

Also, 4 biscuits isn't a binge. It might be a little more than you planned, but it's not that bad.

^^^^ Agreed!

Four biscuits covered in sausage gravy is a nice, filling breakfast. Just eat a lighter, high protein lunch/supper and you should be able to fit it in.

and nutritionally deficient...

Bit of a sweeping statement when you do not know what else is included in the lunch and supper.

1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

Lol at you telling me how many of a particular item I get to eat. I have to eat 3500-4000 just to maintain and I can't have 4 biscuits? Please.

A 12 oz can of soda can say 2 servings, does that make it true? Serving size is created by marketing departments so they can make calories seem smaller, not by the Lord of How Much I Can Eat

Eating bread within your calorie and macro goals - no. Eating bread at a caloric surplus - absolutely yes, it is "fattening". Same goes with any other food you consume.

^^^ This, bread is not more fattening that fat, that's total BS.

If it fits in your calorie goal it will be fine - it doesn't magically turn into fat or suddenly gain more calories.

Seconded.

Also, 4 biscuits isn't a binge. It might be a little more than you planned, but it's not that bad.

^^^^ Agreed!

Four biscuits covered in sausage gravy is a nice, filling breakfast. Just eat a lighter, high protein lunch/supper and you should be able to fit it in.

and nutritionally deficient...

Bit of a sweeping statement when you do not know what else is included in the lunch and supper.

the breakfast is certainly nutritionally deficient. and that's all I was referring to. you know that.

1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

Lol at you telling me how many of a particular item I get to eat. I have to eat 3500-4000 just to maintain and I can't have 4 biscuits? Please.

A 12 oz can of soda can say 2 servings, does that make it true? Serving size is created by marketing departments so they can make calories seem smaller, not by the Lord of How Much I Can Eat

I don't think the OP eats 3500-4000 cal

You really can't get fat eating veggies (raw that is).

but I would get fat if they are cooked?

vegetarians aren't immune from being overweight if they add caloric density by cooking veggies in oil/butter/etc/etc - doing it that way makes it possible to eat more cal than your TDEE in veggie products.

I know it's shocking, but some people actually steam their veggies without adding all sorts of fats to it.

yeah i didn't say they didn't. wow unnecessary hostility much? yes, you can eat as many steamed veggies as you like as well. happy?

I'm not hostile. I am a little tired of your sweeping generalizations though.

Eating bread within your calorie and macro goals - no. Eating bread at a caloric surplus - absolutely yes, it is "fattening". Same goes with any other food you consume.

^^^ This, bread is not more fattening that fat, that's total BS.

If it fits in your calorie goal it will be fine - it doesn't magically turn into fat or suddenly gain more calories.

Seconded.

Also, 4 biscuits isn't a binge. It might be a little more than you planned, but it's not that bad.

^^^^ Agreed!

Four biscuits covered in sausage gravy is a nice, filling breakfast. Just eat a lighter, high protein lunch/supper and you should be able to fit it in.

and nutritionally deficient...

Bit of a sweeping statement when you do not know what else is included in the lunch and supper.

the breakfast is certainly nutritionally deficient. and that's all I was referring to. you know that.

Deficient compared to what? And how much nutrition am I supposed to eat in each of my meals? If I'm deficient, whatever that means, can't it be made up for at dinner?

I'm not hostile. I am a little tired of your sweeping generalizations though.

I'm tired of seeing the endless posts from CR in every thread. Like 13? in this one alone. Make your point and move on. The constant force-feeding of your opinion is egotistical and outrageous. Sorry, I won't be back to engage in the certain argument THIS will set off, but really... if you're confident in your opinions/beliefs, you don't have to shove it down people's throats every time you respond to a thread.

Eating bread within your calorie and macro goals - no. Eating bread at a caloric surplus - absolutely yes, it is "fattening". Same goes with any other food you consume.

^^^ This, bread is not more fattening that fat, that's total BS.

If it fits in your calorie goal it will be fine - it doesn't magically turn into fat or suddenly gain more calories.

Seconded.

Also, 4 biscuits isn't a binge. It might be a little more than you planned, but it's not that bad.

^^^^ Agreed!

Four biscuits covered in sausage gravy is a nice, filling breakfast. Just eat a lighter, high protein lunch/supper and you should be able to fit it in.

and nutritionally deficient...

Bit of a sweeping statement when you do not know what else is included in the lunch and supper.

the breakfast is certainly nutritionally deficient. and that's all I was referring to. you know that.

No, actually I did not know that as I assumed that you realized that it is your overall diet that should be looked at rather than one individual meal. Any meal, no matter how 'healthy' or 'unhealthy' it is can be deficient of certain nutrients. I can have a big salad and it can be deficient in lots of things...context again.

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1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

Lol at you telling me how many of a particular item I get to eat. I have to eat 3500-4000 just to maintain and I can't have 4 biscuits? Please.

A 12 oz can of soda can say 2 servings, does that make it true? Serving size is created by marketing departments so they can make calories seem smaller, not by the Lord of How Much I Can Eat

I don't think the OP eats 3500-4000 cal

Exactly. She ate a proportionally smaller amount than I would. I would have had jelly, 6 eggs and bacon along with OJ.

Or 10 more cookies and a pint of ice cream. Have we determined if the OP is eating American biscuits or British biscuits?

Either way, I bet she lives

1. four biscuits is not a binge. I doubt it even qualifies as overeating.

Yes, four biscuits in one sitting is ridiculous - it's four servings in one sitting! Therefore, it is considered over eating.

Here is a link to a popular brand of biscuits:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/biscuits-pillsbury-biscuits-grands-flaky-layers-buttermilk-55898158

If you were to eat four of them, that would be 680 calories, 28g of fat, 100 carbs, 16g of sugar and a whopping 2160 mg of sodium...four biscuits in one sitting isn't healthy by any stretch of the imagination.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying 1 or even 2 depending on what you're eating it with would be all that bad (everything in moderation) but four? No that's just over eating.

my point was about the misuse of the word "binge" i.e. people using it to mean they overate a little. And my definition of overeating was clear in my post, I didn't say 4 biscuits was *never* overeating, I said it was overeating if it took you over your calories for the day. i.e. it's context dependent. 680 calories is overeating in some contexts, but not others, and i didn't comment at all on whether it was healthy or not, I'm more concerned about the hyperbolic (bordering on ridiculous) use of the term "binge". How many calories there are in four biscuits is totally irrelevant to this point, as eating four biscuits is not a symptom of disordered eating (which bingeing is), even if it's not the most healthy choice, and *may* be overeating depending on what else the person has eaten that day (i.e. it's context dependent, and not overeating in and of itself).

This may seem like something not very important, but firstly, if someone is saying that a normal sized serving of food is a "binge" it betrays an unhealthy relationship with food. Feeling guilty about eating 4 biscuits IMO is not psychologically healthy in any context. The most someone should feel if it took them over their goal or prevented them getting enough healthy nutrition for the day is "oops, maybe I should have snacked on something else". Additionally, misuse of words leads to people who have real problems with something, e.g. binge eating disorder, to have their problems misunderstood by others. If someone is saying that eating four biscuits is a binge, then when someone else is saying "I have binge eating disorder" - that will end up being taken by some to mean "I overeat sometimes" which is totally not the same as binge eating disorder. Overeating is not an eating disorder or psychiatric problem, it's nothing more than a bad habit. Binge eating refers to uncontrolled eating of huge quantities of food, way past the point of feeling full, and is a symptom of some eating disorders, e.g. binge eating disorder or bulimia.

As a Brit (sorry if this is off topic) I don't undersatnd what goes into an American biscuit. Here in England what we call a biscuit you guys call a cookie so I don't guess we have any equivalent of what you call a biscuit (am I making sense here??)
Can someone please enlighten me,
H

scone would be the equivalent