For those of you that invite others to objectify you:
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I'll bring the baconIt's not serious , most 5s etc will get rated a 10.
ONS x 365
10/10 would bang, date and marry.
I'll objectify the bacon..0 -
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In for objectification.
me too :bigsmile:0 -
Those threads are just for fun.
And this is a fitness site, people talk about their bodies, and other people's bodies a lot on here. Some of us just enjoy flirting, it's innocent and it brings a smile on my face.
I refuse to go through life constantly watching what I wear, say or do, out of fear that I might be inviting others to objectify me. If they do, well, there is something wrong with them, not me.
And when I get a compliment I try to actually see it as that instead of screaming "I am not a piece of meat".0 -
We're not training them; we've been conditioned from a young age to think and/or behave this way, therefore we are reinforcing this behavior. Maybe you should be speaking to preschoolers, because you need to shape behaviors from a young age.
So, you're saying it's impossible to change?0 -
kick!
pass!
not sexy!:smokin: :ohwell: :explode: :yawn:0 -
Those threads are just for fun.
And this is a fitness site, people talk about their bodies, and other people's bodies a lot on here. Some of us just enjoy flirting, it's innocent and it brings a smile on my face.
I refuse to go through life constantly watching what I wear, say or do, out of fear that I might be inviting others to objectify me. If they do, well, there is something wrong with them, not me.
And when I get a compliment I try to actually see it as that instead of screaming "I am not a piece of meat".
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When you post things like "bang, date, marry?" or "cute, hot, or sexy?" and ask people to objectify you, you are training them to think of everyone around them in those terms. You invite them to make a value judgement of your body, and they begin to make those judgements about others. I speak not just on behalf of women but of everyone on this site. Our culture places way too much value on judgements about people. Is it not enough to just be what you are? Do you have to be "bangable" or "flirty" or have all of these other labels attached to you? And if you do, could you handle that somewhere other than a site for folks who aren't satisfied with their bodies anyways? I realize an ego boost is nice, and I don't mind getting ego boosts every so often, but maybe the place for that is your personal profile or a "hot or not" site.
I can't tell you guys what to post or what to think- the purpose of this post is to invite some discussion about how we create these labels and values for each other and ourselves even as they make us uncomfortable or sad. Many women feel that a "male-dominated culture" has set up these cages of self-judgement for them, but then they go out in pants that say "juicy" across their butts or ask others how hot they are from 1-10. I try really hard to avoid these types of discussions, firstly because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and secondly because I feel that I have value in and of myself, not just when I'm given a number or a name.
What do you guys think? Do you like it when people tell you you're a certain type of person? Do you like it when people rate you? Do you think others like it when you rate them?
I thought you'd be getting more support in this opinion. Apparently not. Most people just aren't thinking that deeply on the meaning of these shallow games but I hear what you're saying loud and clear and I support you. That being stated, whatever anybody else wants to do is fine with me. It's my choice to participate or not and sometimes I do play the "What's the first word you think of" games, but it gets boring quickly. Simple things entertain simple minds.
It's great that you're thinking about this stuff at a relatively young age. Stay insightful, stay thoughtful. 0 -
Those threads are just for fun.
And this is a fitness site, people talk about their bodies, and other people's bodies a lot on here. Some of us just enjoy flirting, it's innocent and it brings a smile on my face.
I refuse to go through life constantly watching what I wear, say or do, out of fear that I might be inviting others to objectify me. If they do, well, there is something wrong with them, not me.
And when I get a compliment I try to actually see it as that instead of screaming "I am not a piece of meat".
7/10 WB...I guess.0 -
My partner, family and friends are very supportive and encouraging, feel pretty good in my own skin and don't feel the need to ask strangers opinions.
Feel very meh about these threads, is a social site, people here for different resaons - I can choose to look or not - so far it has been not.
No biggie
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I pretty much see those threads as harmless, but they have gotten rather old. There used to be one or two that just kept rolling. Now there are new ones everyday and it's all just basically the same thing. They are pretty redundant and tiresome and that's why I don't bother with them. Sooner or later, everyone else will get bored with them and the trend will go away. I try not to take things that people do on the Internet too seriously. You should try it.0
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Halp, I've been objectified!Those threads are just for fun.
And this is a fitness site, people talk about their bodies, and other people's bodies a lot on here. Some of us just enjoy flirting, it's innocent and it brings a smile on my face.
I refuse to go through life constantly watching what I wear, say or do, out of fear that I might be inviting others to objectify me. If they do, well, there is something wrong with them, not me.
And when I get a compliment I try to actually see it as that instead of screaming "I am not a piece of meat".
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Woman's Studies major?0
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But we are physical beings and we should judge each other as such. Anything else denies part of who you are. I am not saying it is your only identifier, but it is the primary one as a picture of yourself is easily identifiable as you whereas, what you write for instance is not recognisably yours unless you attach your name to it.
Judgement values are important in creating your identity. I judge myself by those around me. If I am unhappy with where I put myself amongst those around me I have two choices: change who I am or change those who are around me. I think the real problem is that everybody wants to be the best and therefore never find contentment because there is always someone better.
Simply put, if you do not like those who objectify you, do not spend time with them.0 -
The OP said we were training people to objectify others by making these posts. We've already learned these behaviors. It's much easier to fix a behavior before it's learned than to try and correct it 15, 30, 50 years down the road. Plus, people have to want to change. We're here on a "fun" message board. If people wanted to change their psychological behaviors they need to seek professional help to find out how to do so effectively.We're not training them; we've been conditioned from a young age to think and/or behave this way, therefore we are reinforcing this behavior. Maybe you should be speaking to preschoolers, because you need to shape behaviors from a young age.
So, you're saying it's impossible to change?
Try walking around and not having any judgmental thoughts. You can't. It's been instilled in us from such a young age that it takes years to undo the damage.0 -
My goal is to be eye candy for as many women as possible.
You're doing a darn fine job!0 -
1) why are you 'talking' to just women? Maybe you are not, but it seems that you are addressing women. Men participate in those threads
2) everyone lies on those anyway, so it's not 'training' anyone to objectify anyone.
I don't participate in them as they do not appeal to me, but I cannot see why they need such psychoanalysis.0 -
Wow you've got time on your hands to think all that.
Relax, chill out a bit, it's not all doom and gloom!0 -
Why so seRRious? I like those threads and find them entertaining. If I wasn't a chicken ****, I'd participate.0
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In for objectification.
me too :bigsmile:
Consider it done.
Hope you are not a mouth breather.:flowerforyou:
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Why so seRRious? I like those threads and find them entertaining. If I wasn't a chicken ****, I'd participate.
Would bang, date, take home to mother. 9.356/10.
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I think it's just for fun....0
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I second thisWhy so seRRious? I like those threads and find them entertaining. If I wasn't a chicken ****, I'd participate.
Would bang, date, take home to mother. 9.356/10.
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OP, have you read The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf? I think you'd like. I came across a bit of it today and while not exactly what you are saying here, I just get the sense you'd like it.
Here's one: “Sadly, the signals that allow men and women to find the partners who most please them are scrambled by the sexual insecurity initiated by beauty thinking. A woman who is self-conscious can't relax to let her sensuality come into play. If she is hungry she will be tense. If she is "done up" she will be on the alert for her reflection in his eyes. If she is ashamed of her body, its movement will be stilled. If she does not feel entitled to claim attention, she will not demand that airspace to shine in. If his field of vision has been boxed in by "beauty"--a box continually shrinking--he simply will not see her, his real love, standing right before him.”
Here's another: "Women could probably be trained quite easily to see men first as sexual things. If girls never experienced sexual violence; if a girl's only window on male sexuality were a stream of easily available, well-lit, cheap images of boys slightly older than herself, in their late teens, smiling encouragingly and revealing cuddly erect penises the color of roses or mocha, she might well look at, *kitten* to, and, as an adult, "need" beauty pornography based on the bodies of men. And if those initiating penises were represented to the girl as pneumatically erectible, swerving neither left nor right, tasting of cinnamon or forest berries, innocent of random hairs, and ever ready; if they were presented alongside their measurements, length, and circumference to the quarter inch; if they seemed to be available to her with no troublesome personality attached; if her sweet pleasure seemed to be the only reason for them to exist--then a real young man would probably approach the young woman's bed with, to say the least, a failing heart.”
Regarding those threads: I just think they are so dumb I never go there. But I do get pissy every time I see Diodelcibo posting new pics of his abs and NOT accepting my FR. I like his abs. Does this make me a hypocrite????0 -
I thought this was going to be a complaint about scantily clad profile pics and then a bunch of scantily clad people would come and post and I'd have more names to add to my "list of people I am objectifying" but it is not.
I am disappoint.0 -
I'm not reading thru the entire thread to see if it's been posted, but assume every man that looks at you answers a yes/no question about you every time they glance at you...especially strangers.
Usually it takes milliseconds to answer it and entire rooms of people are surveyed at once...
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6/10, would bang, wouldn't date (don't like wall of text without a TL;DR.. next time do a TL;DR)When you post things like "bang, date, marry?" or "cute, hot, or sexy?" and ask people to objectify you, you are training them to think of everyone around them in those terms. You invite them to make a value judgement of your body, and they begin to make those judgements about others. I speak not just on behalf of women but of everyone on this site. Our culture places way too much value on judgements about people. Is it not enough to just be what you are? Do you have to be "bangable" or "flirty" or have all of these other labels attached to you? And if you do, could you handle that somewhere other than a site for folks who aren't satisfied with their bodies anyways? I realize an ego boost is nice, and I don't mind getting ego boosts every so often, but maybe the place for that is your personal profile or a "hot or not" site.
I can't tell you guys what to post or what to think- the purpose of this post is to invite some discussion about how we create these labels and values for each other and ourselves even as they make us uncomfortable or sad. Many women feel that a "male-dominated culture" has set up these cages of self-judgement for them, but then they go out in pants that say "juicy" across their butts or ask others how hot they are from 1-10. I try really hard to avoid these types of discussions, firstly because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and secondly because I feel that I have value in and of myself, not just when I'm given a number or a name.
What do you guys think? Do you like it when people tell you you're a certain type of person? Do you like it when people rate you? Do you think others like it when you rate them?
edit - actually clicked your profile and apparently you smoke, change that to "wouldn't bang"0 -
I second thisWhy so seRRious? I like those threads and find them entertaining. If I wasn't a chicken ****, I'd participate.
Would bang, date, take home to mother. 9.356/10.
Better?
Yay! Since it's my goal to be a milf, this makes me super, super happpy! :bigsmile:0 -
This seems like a serious thread, so I probably shouldn't be here.
But bang marry date lick anyway0
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