Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight

magerum · May 2013

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I would caution against processed foods. While you will lose weight if your caloric use exceeds your intake, the quality of your long term health will not improve. Ice cream and pop tarts everyday will not teach your body to burn fuel as efficiently as whole unprocessed foods. Additionally, consistently consuming foods like pop tarts and ice cream increase insulin resistance, a precursor to diabetes

That doesn't mean that you can't enjoy a sweet treat every now and then, but replacing your guilty pleasures with something a bit less guilty will help you long term. My former addiction? Mint chocolate chip ice cream every night religiously. I've replaced that with Greek yogurt (that comes in every flavor. Weekday breakfast? Irish oatmeal with a cup of raspberries.

I wasn't easy, but after some youtube videos and encouragement from some friends, I scaled back my relationship with processed food. I actually started seeing results, my energy levels went up, and I actually ate less. Once in a blue moon, I splurge and eat something totally indulgent. The previous commenters were correct, food shaming is out; however, I would strongly encourage you to be aware of the long term effects of pop tarts and ice cream every day. best wishes

Epic first post, welcome to the forums! :flowerforyou:

Absolute nonsense. I average between 140 - 200 g a day in sugar. As of last week my fasting blood sugar level was 71mg/dL. Sugar does NOT cause diabetes.

http://www.diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/#type2
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/Causes_of_Diabetes_508.pdf

For those who typically don't read sources:

Risk Factors for Type 2 Diabetes
People who develop type 2 diabetes are more likely to have the following characteristics:

•age 45 or older
•overweight or obese
•physically inactive
•parent or sibling with diabetes
•family background that is African American, Alaska Native, American Indian, Asian American, Hispanic/ Latino, or Pacific Islander American
•history of giving birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
•history of gestational diabetes
•high blood pressure—140/90 or above—or being treated for high blood pressure
•high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or good, cholesterol below 35 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or a triglyceride level above 250 mg/dL
•polycystic ovary syndrome, also called PCOS
•prediabetes—an A1C level of 5.7 to 6.4 percent; a fasting plasma glucose test result of 100–125 mg/dL, called impaired fasting glucose; or a 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test result of 140–199, called impaired glucose tolerance
•acanthosis nigricans, a condition associated with insulin resistance, characterized by a dark, velvety rash around the neck or armpits
•history of CVD

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DS01121/DSECTION=risk-factors

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/#x

You. Cannot. Bend. What. Works. For. You. To. Work. For. Everyone.

You're like an Atheist who won't shut up about how there is no God-- I can understand trying to educate people who are actively harming their bodies with the way they eat but for chrissakes, let people eat what they want and stop soapboxing so damn much.

Just because YOU are eating pop tarts and ice cream every day-- and feel proud enough about it to post constantly, whoopee for you-- doesn't mean everyone wants to, should, or has to be like you to be successful!

Please just stahp

stahp.

I am not surprised by you completely missing the point. Did you even read the OP? The entire thread is an attempt to help show how the food shaming and demonizing is not only unhelpful, but ridiculous. You're hung up on pop tarts and ice cream, it can be anything you want it to be.

The entire point is you can eat anything you want and reach your goals, both fitness and health.

RobJVM · May 2013

It REALLY is calories in/calories out.

BUT!!!!!

I can have 1 pop tart or a BUCKET of salad with a couple oz of grilled chicken (no really… a gallon bucket FULL to the top).

Nutrition is another animal.

SanteMulberry · May 2013

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How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.

Through eating the way OP promotes. Do you realize that 100 calories extra (not even a half-cup of ice cream) over what your body requires (and my body happens to use calories very efficiently apparently) over the course of 10 years is a 100-pound gain. And dieting only exacerbates the problem. So we cleaned up our act and got serious about making healthy changes. And here we are---loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals.

You forgot to add: "loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals... while trying to prove to others that I am better than them by nagging in a thread specifically titled Eating pizza, pop tarts, and ice cream while losing weight...SMILEY FACE."

Not at all, dear. I do NOT consider myself superior in any way. If you got that out of my posts, it was likely your inference. It is not nagging to suggest that what the OP advocates will not necessarily work for everyone. Sorry that my posts seem to have made you angry, but there was really nothing in them that should have done so. When you are around here a bit longer, perhaps you will see that this is an old ongoing discussion that apparently has no end in sight. If they are happy with what they are doing---more power to them. I am merely pointing out that it simply will not work for some people and that those who are watching and not participating would be wise to tread cautiously on their advice as they should tread cautiously on all advice from every source.

brower47 · May 2013

It REALLY is calories in/calories out.

BUT!!!!!

I can have 1 pop tart or a BUCKET of salad with a couple oz of grilled chicken (no really… a gallon bucket FULL to the top).

Nutrition is another animal.

No one suggested eating ONLY pop tarts and forgoing nutrition. If you meet all your nutrition needs for the day and then use your remaining calories for a treat, then there's no problem.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have a treat I love than a BUCKET of salad anyway.

btoeps74 · May 2013

How come nobody questions Michael Phelps calorie intake, which is probably way higher than the OP's intake? While I try avoiding some of the things the OP eats, a calorie is after all a calorie.

To the OP, my god though you must take 20 craps a day lol.

pspetralia · May 2013

I finished 2 talenti gelatos my first month and still lost 9 pounds.

Mmmm....I just discovered Talenti gelatos. Soooo good!!

magerum · May 2013

This seems appropriate

Serah87 · May 2013

I agree. Eating ice cream everyday is just not healthy. Even if you can do it and still lose weight. You have to think about what it does to your body in the long run. Junk food turns your body into junk. Eventually it will break down. We are talking about making you more susceptible to diseases like diabetes and cancer and heart disease even stroke. It's ok once in awhile ,but daily is another story.

ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

jofjltncb6 · May 2013

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Then why you keep coming back to argue? If you don't care then why debate it! Geesh........ I said live and let live. about a hundred times throughout this thread. You just want to argue. I don't know why you chose me though. I didn't create the controversy.

Indeed.

One might say that you've been preaching it throughout this thread. Incessantly, even...

...in a thread titled, "Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight"...

How are you unable or unwilling to grasp the hypocrisy in this?

^this

Contrarian · May 2013

HEY! When did they start showing the day we started instead of just the month and year?

Jacqadactle · May 2013

Like.

TheStephil · May 2013

I eat some form of junk multiple times a day and have no health problems or weight loss problems. I usually have ice cream for dessert every day. I couldn't live without my sugar splurges.

sunnyflower1177 · May 2013

I get angry when im hungry!

kjm_723 · May 2013

If my calorie goal was 3250 I'd eat whatever I wanted also but when you're calorie goal is much much less than that then it's a lot harder to fit treats in! I try not to think of any foods as good or bad but 380 cals for poptarts just isn't worth it, I would still be hungry and then I would eat something else and I'd be way over before I knew it. So I can understand why some people must have a stricter approach.

SanteMulberry · May 2013

For me what it boils down to is "everything is permissible, not everything is beneficial". I have not demonized any foods except a couple I don't seem to be able to exercise self control with in terms of portions. Everything else is up for grabs. But I have to admit I have tried to change my mindset about food so that I'm eating to live, not living to eat. Which means not every day is a treat day. I don't have specific treat days either. I just sorta wing it.

But as I've said on here a million times, if it works for you, go for it. If I ate what you're eating my reactive hypoglycemia issues would be off the freakin' charts. But that's obviously not your issue. So carry on...

Oh. And for the record. Not treating reactive hypoglycemia with dietary changes will eventually lead to insulin resistance, which coupled with other risk factors previously mentioned, WILL lead to type 2 diabetes. So the Pop Tart Diet would definitely be no bueno for me.

Thanks for the civilized and polite response. Thank you. :flowerforyou: Welcome to the forums.

sunnyflower1177 · May 2013

So i have a SNICKERS!!!!!!!!!

SanteMulberry · May 2013

If my calorie goal was 3250 I'd eat whatever I wanted also but when you're calorie goal is much much less than that then it's a lot harder to fit treats in! I try not to think of any foods as good or bad but 380 cals for poptarts just isn't worth it, I would still be hungry and then I would eat something else and I'd be way over before I knew it. So I can understand why some people must have a stricter approach.

Reasonable and accurate. :flowerforyou: Welcome to the forums!

magerum · May 2013

I'm shocked this thread hasn't gotten locked yet from all the butthurt going on.

Who wants to join me for chicken alfredo and tiramisu tonight?

It better not get locked.

ETA: I'm the OP. Which can get lost in threads like this.

WinnerVictorious · May 2013

This seems appropriate

don't forget...

or...

JulesAlloggio · May 2013

I get angry when im hungry!

Me too!!! ARGH!!

_SABOTEUR_ · May 2013

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How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.

Through eating the way OP promotes. Do you realize that 100 calories extra (not even a half-cup of ice cream) over what your body requires (and my body happens to use calories very efficiently apparently) over the course of 10 years is a 100-pound gain. And dieting only exacerbates the problem. So we cleaned up our act and got serious about making healthy changes. And here we are---loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals.

You forgot to add: "loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals... while trying to prove to others that I am better than them by nagging in a thread specifically titled Eating pizza, pop tarts, and ice cream while losing weight...SMILEY FACE."

Not at all, dear. I do NOT consider myself superior in any way. If you got that out of my posts, it was likely your inference. It is not nagging to suggest that what the OP advocates will not necessarily work for everyone. Sorry that my posts seem to have made you angry, but there was really nothing in them that should have done so. When you are around here a bit longer, perhaps you will see that this is an old ongoing discussion that apparently has no end in sight. If they are happy with what they are doing---more power to them. I am merely pointing out that it simply will not work for some people and that those who are watching and not participating would be wise to tread cautiously on their advice as they should tread cautiously on all advice from every source.

Sweetie, darling, I have just bolded one of your statements. :flowerforyou:

The reason being, dearie, that this clearly shows you feel superior to others who lose weight whilst incorporating treats.

If we turn this statment around, lovie, what you're saying is you believe we are not serious about weight loss and improving our health because we eat foods you disapprove of. :flowerforyou:

I find it strange dear, that you are able to contradict yourself so regularly, but with the amount of posts you have clogged up this thread with it must be difficult to keep up with what you have previously said.

Live and let live, sweetie. :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

cosmic8o8 · May 2013

It REALLY is calories in/calories out.

BUT!!!!!

I can have 1 pop tart or a BUCKET of salad with a couple oz of grilled chicken (no really… a gallon bucket FULL to the top).

Nutrition is another animal.

Honestly, I'd take the poptart over a bucket of salad. If I'm going to eat a bucket of something, it's going to be the Colonel's best.

Crankstr · May 2013

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Then why you keep coming back to argue? If you don't care then why debate it! Geesh........ I said live and let live. about a hundred times throughout this thread. You just want to argue. I don't know why you chose me though. I didn't create the controversy.

Indeed.

One might say that you've been preaching it throughout this thread. Incessantly, even...

...in a thread titled, "Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight"...

How are you unable or unwilling to grasp the hypocrisy in this?

^this

THIS^

Pinkylee77 · May 2013

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Weight loss is to become healthy. So why eat like a slob?

How am I eating like a slob?

Diary from yesterday:

Kirkland Signature (Costco) - Premium Performance Multi 31 Vitamins & Minerals, 1 tablet
Nature's Bounty - Fish Oil 1400 Mg/980 Mg Omega-3, 1 Softgel
Body Fortress - Super Advanced Whey Isolate - Vanilla Creme, 2 scoop (35g)

Lunch
Kirkland Signature - Almonds, Dry Roasted and Salted, 28 g (1/4 cup)
Barilla Plus Multigrain Pasta - Farfalle (Bowtie) Noodles, 1 oz
Generic - Broccoli, 3 oz.
Cauliflower - Raw Floweret, 3 ounce
Coca-Cola - Cherry Coke Zero 12oz Can, 12 oz
Bybee Organic Mixed Vegetables With Shelled Edemame (Costco) - Organic, Frozen Corn, Carrots, Green Beans, & Edamame, 2 cup (100g)
Lawry's Marinade - Lemon Pepper, 1 tbs
Kirkland Chicken Breast - Boneless skinless chicken breast, 8 oz
Knudsen - Cottage Cheese - Lowfat Small Curd, 1/2 cup

Dinner
Coca-Cola - Cherry Coke Zero 12oz Can, 12 oz
Red Brick Pizza - Pizza Bufalo, 1 small pizza
Gold Coast - Salad Spinach (Premium Select), 200 g
Kirkland Chicken Breast - Boneless skinless chicken breast, 7 oz

Upper Crust Bakery - Mini Cinnamon Rolls, 2 rolls (37 g)
Kellogg's - Pop-Tart - Frosted Red Velvet, 2 pastry
General Mills Cheerios Plain - Plain Cherrios, 56 g
Milk Walmart Great Value - 1% Milk, 0.75 cup (240ML)
General Mills Cereal - Fiber One 80 Calories Honey Squares, 2 1/4 cup (30g)
Edys - Slow Churned Mint Cookie, 2 cup 63g

It's not McDonald's, but there is still a lot of bad stuff on your diet. Lots of high fructose corn syrup, artificial sweeteners and GMO-food. Also soy is estrogenic (edamame). Once in a while, it might be ok to indulge (yes, I do it), but don't kid yourself! Every day like this isn't healthy.

Soy is now bad for you really? the billion of Asians that eat it daily are all dieing of cancer. What makes burns my backside is not poptarts but people that don't know squat about real food science and believe garbage junk studies. I work in the cancer field cancer and disease do not know the difference of a healthy eater and an unhealthy eater. The people that are the most upset when they get sick are the health nuts that thought they can prevent cancer with their diet. Eat and be happy life is too short!

BamaBreezeNSaltAire · May 2013

I'm adding BEER to the pop tarts, pizza and ice cream! Carry on.

Crankstr · May 2013

HEY! When did they start showing the day we started instead of just the month and year?

this week i think

Zumaria1 · May 2013

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are you still trying to lose weight? you have alot of calorie intake and your pottasium and sugar is pretty high. are you just trying to maintain?

I lose a bit more than a pound a week at this caloric intake (3250)

Since you can lose weight at that high of a caloric intake, I can see why you are able to keep eating pizza, pop tarts, ice cream, McDonald's etc.

While I definitely am not an extremist about not eating sugar, or absolutely no fast food EVER, I cannot comprehend you and some others who take the other extreme, IMO, of actively promoting eating high sugar, high fat, high sodium foods. I certainly could never lose weight at a calorie intake of 3250, the average person probably could not do so, therefore its most attainable for me, to eat lower calorie, healthier foods, and save things like ice cream, pizza, for treats every once in a while. Pop tarts I gave up 18 years ago and never looked back, those things are gross in my opinion, Toaster Strudels are so much better, lol.

magerum · May 2013

Hmm they moved it to Chit-Chat...

Sarauk2sf · May 2013

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I finished 2 talenti gelatos my first month and still lost 9 pounds.

Mmmm....I just discovered Talenti gelatos. Soooo good!!

*nods*

pastryari · May 2013

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are you still trying to lose weight? you have alot of calorie intake and your pottasium and sugar is pretty high. are you just trying to maintain?

I lose a bit more than a pound a week at this caloric intake (3250)

Since you can lose weight at that high of a caloric intake, I can see why you are able to keep eating pizza, pop tarts, ice cream, McDonald's etc.

While I definitely am not an extremist about not eating sugar, or absolutely no fast food EVER, I cannot comprehend you and some others who take the other extreme, IMO, of actively promoting eating high sugar, high fat, high sodium foods. I certainly could never lose weight at a calorie intake of 3250, the average person probably could not do so, therefore its most attainable for me, to eat lower calorie, healthier foods, and save things like ice cream, pizza, for treats every once in a while. Pop tarts I gave up 18 years ago and never looked back, those things are gross in my opinion, Toaster Strudels are so much better, lol.

I have a lower cal limit and I eat ice cream daily.

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