Embarrassed to go jogging because of pervs.

wow... started at page one... scared to run because someone may whistle... to this page... where attractive female will be yanked off the path and gang raped. In a van no less. WOW

Taking everything too literally much?
No one is suggesting that someone whistling at you automatically means you're going to be dragged off the street and gang raped.

That's a response to a guy who thinks that because he isn't creeped out by women heckling him, that all women should be feeling the same sense of safety and write it off.

If I was afraid to go outside because someone ogled my goods, I'd never leave the house. Just be smart about where and when you exercise and if you're going alone, let someone know where you're going and when you'll be back. If you're really worried, take the following precautions that you're comfortable with: a dog, a can of pepper spray, a gun (with proper permits, use knowledge etc), a running buddy or whatever else you feel you need.

wow... started at page one... scared to run because someone may whistle... to this page... where attractive female will be yanked off the path and gang raped. In a van no less. WOW

Taking everything too literally much?
No one is suggesting that someone whistling at you automatically means you're going to be dragged off the street and gang raped.

That's a response to a guy who thinks that because he isn't creeped out by women heckling him, that all women should be feeling the same sense of safety and write it off.

why yes, I often do take things literally.

oh wait? was that not a literal question? perhaps it was rhetorical and I wasn't supposed to answer it.

oh dear, what should I do?

/sarcasm

with all due respect, I was referring to the fact that the forums tend to escalate from the common to the dramatic in a heartbeat. THAT was what I was referring to in my comment... going from whistle to rape in 8 pages.

Take everything too literally much?

mp3 player, phone or ipod and earbuds, blast the music and you wont even hear those a**holes! :laugh:

Whaaatt? I run outside for the pervs! Let them try to take me... Take a self defense class and run like the wind woman.

I've been cat called by a group of women before. They weren't at a construction site they were in a limo celebrating something I can only assume to be a bachelorette party. So it really does go both ways. This isn't a male vs. female thing.

Also since you brought up entitlement what makes you the voice for all other women?

Oh please.

A guy being catcalled by a group of women has 100% never had to worry about those women dragging him off the street, throwing him into a van and gang raping him.

No man has ever had to fear for his safety by women shouting something at him in the street. Unless she was armed, or trying to drive over him, which is far less likely.

:huh:

Seriously, I can't believe i just read that. Male privilege *smh*

get back in the kitchen!

wow... started at page one... scared to run because someone may whistle... to this page... where attractive female will be yanked off the path and gang raped. In a van no less. WOW

Taking everything too literally much?
No one is suggesting that someone whistling at you automatically means you're going to be dragged off the street and gang raped.

That's a response to a guy who thinks that because he isn't creeped out by women heckling him, that all women should be feeling the same sense of safety and write it off.

That IS what you suggested though. In your original comment you said 'no man has ever feared getting dragged off into a hite van and getting gang raped' therefore implying that because a woman has been cat called the next step is to kidnap and gang rape her.

Unless you're admitting that, that would indeed be an irrational fear?

I'm saying that it HAS happened to many women, therefore it's a fear we need to keep in mind. An irrational fear is being fearful of something that could or would never happen.

Did you just not read the posts some women have made on this very thread of having guys in cars chase them, or try to grab them?

I'd quite like to start running outside, but I'd have to go on busy roads with other people and cars. I'm scared that people are going to take the piss. I already get honked at by pervy old men and stuff randomly while walking sometimes. Ugh, it just creeps me out and makes me angry. Unless I wake up super early and go while not many people are around I don't see a way to avoid this... help!

There is nothing pervy about someone honking a horn at you. Aside from that most people don't pay any attention to joggers so i wouldnt worry.

Wow, thanks for mansplaining. I find it pervy.

I find it's a compliment but subjective situation is subjective.

Fact. Women who walk around fearful of being raped are typically the victims of rape. The vast majority of men have no interest in raping you. A vast minority of men rape women because they are cowardly sickos who are incapable of relationships.

Stop being afraid, woman up, get strong, and dare a man to approach you via your confidence and behaviors.

I've never been raped, because I'm careful. Or maybe just lucky.
The majority of my friends however, have been. and yes, the majority. like 80 percent.

I've heard the statistic is 1 in every 4 women have been raped. However I think the majority of them were raped by friends or family rather than strangers.

still though.

I'd quite like to start running outside, but I'd have to go on busy roads with other people and cars. I'm scared that people are going to take the piss. I already get honked at by pervy old men and stuff randomly while walking sometimes. Ugh, it just creeps me out and makes me angry. Unless I wake up super early and go while not many people are around I don't see a way to avoid this... help!

My sister will only run in the dark because she thinks people are going to stare at her. I'm trying to convince her that people may look, but that's usually the extent of it because they're uh...I-dunno... going about their own lives and not all that interested in what she's doing. Lol! Sounds like you're using it as an excuse not to do it. If you want to run, run. Who cares if someone looks at you?

Fact. Women who walk around fearful of being raped are typically the victims of rape. The vast majority of men have no interest in raping you. A vast minority of men rape women because they are cowardly sickos who are incapable of relationships.

Stop being afraid, woman up, get strong, and dare a man to approach you via your confidence and behaviors.

I've never been raped, because I'm careful. Or maybe just lucky.
The majority of my friends however, have been. and yes, the majority. like 80 percent.

I've heard the statistic is 1 in every 4 women have been raped. However I think the majority of them were raped by friends or family rather than strangers.

still though.

Personally I highly doubt that figure is even close. Also heard that 1 in 4 children in the US goes to bed hungry, which is crap. Statistics are used every day to sell something.

Not saying its not an issue at all...just that 25% is BS (is my opinion). Do you know 25% of your friends who have been raped? Really?

Actually I know more. Gotta love how men always call BS on this, do some research.

I'd quite like to start running outside, but I'd have to go on busy roads with other people and cars. I'm scared that people are going to take the piss. I already get honked at by pervy old men and stuff randomly while walking sometimes. Ugh, it just creeps me out and makes me angry. Unless I wake up super early and go while not many people are around I don't see a way to avoid this... help!

There is nothing pervy about someone honking a horn at you. Aside from that most people don't pay any attention to joggers so i wouldnt worry.

Wow, thanks for mansplaining. I find it pervy.

I find it's a compliment but subjective situation is subjective.

That's great for you. My subjective opinion is that men shouldn't tell women what is or isn't offensive to women.

Make sure you run where there are plenty of people. Wear headphones (maybe only keep one plug in one ear so you can stay alert). Get some running pants with pockets. I have some with a pocket in the back. That's where I keep my pepper spray.

Fact. Women who walk around fearful of being raped are typically the victims of rape. The vast majority of men have no interest in raping you. A vast minority of men rape women because they are cowardly sickos who are incapable of relationships.

Stop being afraid, woman up, get strong, and dare a man to approach you via your confidence and behaviors.

I've never been raped, because I'm careful. Or maybe just lucky.
The majority of my friends however, have been. and yes, the majority. like 80 percent.

I've heard the statistic is 1 in every 4 women have been raped. However I think the majority of them were raped by friends or family rather than strangers.

still though.

Personally I highly doubt that figure is even close. Also heard that 1 in 4 children in the US goes to bed hungry, which is crap. Statistics are used every day to sell something.

Not saying its not an issue at all...just that 25% is BS (is my opinion). Do you know 25% of your friends who have been raped? Really?

Much more than 25 % of my friends have been raped.
See the above quoted post.

Fact. Women who walk around fearful of being raped are typically the victims of rape. The vast majority of men have no interest in raping you. A vast minority of men rape women because they are cowardly sickos who are incapable of relationships.

Stop being afraid, woman up, get strong, and dare a man to approach you via your confidence and behaviors.

Actually, the reason why men rape is because of an imagined wrong by that woman or all women, or because they are sadists who like the feeling of power. A lot of the time they are in a relationship or married.

There is no woman who is safe from rape no matter how confident or aware of her surroundings she may or may not be.