everyne says " eat more to loose weight " bs ??
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look at my diet/diary
Do you really weigh everything, or how much do you estimate?
Everything but liquids should be weighed for a couple weeks to see how off you are.
You really only ate 15 calories worth of oatmeal?
Only 1/8 cup of croutons?
Even those prepackaged items with "about 2 servings" or even "1 serving" may be more weight than the package shows. A bunch of 1.25 to 1.45 servings by weight when you've been logging 1 can add up over a day.
Of course, it's not making up for you being about 1000 less than needed.
Honest evaluation.
Has your method of doing things been working here lately, prior to this advice?
Doesn't matter if it worked at first for so much weight loss, when you have a lot to lose, you can do a bunch wrong and still see success - not as much as you could have had if done right though.
But with little to lose, you gotta do it right and smart.
Yup I did when I started weigh..my morning oatmeal is like a tablespoon...just so I have a little something in my guy before running..when you add the water it swells up
The croutons are like 5 on my salad...All I know is when I started I was 197 pounds...im 140 now...all I did was bike and run everyday....and chgd my diet...no milk,bread,rice,cold cuts etc...now for awhile I was 138...now I seem to be staying at 141....but my vacation weeks I eat ice cream everyday and come home 3 pounds lighter 0 -
Betcha ill be up tomorrow...my 1 time a year for 2 cinnamon donuts and a glass of cider...then my pretzles.....oh well0
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I'm up and down all the time. I weigh daily - it's habit. Last weekend I was 400 calories over goal, and down more than a pound the next morning. A little more a couple days later. Today I'm up two pounds, despite being on target the past few days. It's not linear - weight naturally fluctuates up and down by several pounds all the time. As long as the overall trend is the right direction, and my clothes still fit and the tape measure shows progress, it's all good.
Over the past month I've been up and down as much as 5lbs - yet the tape shows that I've lost inches. Don't put too much stock in the scale. Fuel your body for your life and workouts, keep moving, drink water, get good rest, take days off. And be patient. :bigsmile:0 -
I didn't read all the posts, but was wondering, how tall are you?
I can't imagine why you would want to be under 140 lbs unless you are under 5'5 or so.
Perhaps at this point you need to stop obsessing over the scale number and focus more on building muscle. Increasing your lean body mass will help with bone strength as well as increase your metabolism, so you could splurge on the occasional pizza and wings, etc.
Watching that scale go up and down can drive you crazy.0 -
I repeat that weighing yourself daily will always show fluctuations. Heck, your weight can fluctuate by 3 lbs just during a single day! Weigh once a week to get more accurate idea, but even that won't be a perfect picture. And, again, keep things fairly regulated for at least a month before deciding it isn't working.
However, Debbie has a really good point, and if your main concern is the "flab" on your stomach, I would definitely start measuring
With a soft tape rather than weighing to check progress. I personally had not lost a lb in 2weeks prior to my issues last week, but had lost inches from various places, including my waistline.0 -
I repeat that weighing yourself daily will always show fluctuations. Heck, your weight can fluctuate by 3 lbs just during a single day! Weigh once a week to get more accurate idea, but even that won't be a perfect picture. And, again, keep things fairly regulated for at least a month before deciding it isn't working.
However, Debbie has a really good point, and if your main concern is the "flab" on your stomach, I would definitely start measuring
With a soft tape rather than weighing to check progress. I personally had not lost a lb in 2weeks prior to my issues last week, but had lost inches from various places, including my waistline.
Ill try that thx !0 -
I didn't read all the posts, but was wondering, how tall are you?
I can't imagine why you would want to be under 140 lbs unless you are under 5'5 or so.
Perhaps at this point you need to stop obsessing over the scale number and focus more on building muscle. Increasing your lean body mass will help with bone strength as well as increase your metabolism, so you could splurge on the occasional pizza and wings, etc.
Watching that scale go up and down can drive you crazy.
About 5'7" was about 5'9" but im shrinking Not sayin I WANT to be under 140 just saying that this site keeps telling me i WILL be under that given my diary 0 -
I didn't read all the posts, but was wondering, how tall are you?
I can't imagine why you would want to be under 140 lbs unless you are under 5'5 or so.
Perhaps at this point you need to stop obsessing over the scale number and focus more on building muscle. Increasing your lean body mass will help with bone strength as well as increase your metabolism, so you could splurge on the occasional pizza and wings, etc.
Watching that scale go up and down can drive you crazy.
Just remeasured 67 " barefoot so 5'7"0 -
auddi, did someone pee in your Wheaties ? I wasnt having a "temper tantrum" I was just stating that I HAVE tried the eating more and it doesnt work for me...everytime I try it I gain !!!! I wasnt JUST basing it on last nights bing......
It's not for everyone. you'd think it was from the way it's mantra around here but it's definitely not true for everyone. the real message should be make sure you're not at too huge a deficit because losing weight too fast isn't healthy. but that isn't as appealing as JUST EAT MORE.
the whole your metabolism will slow down thing is hocus. you have to be eating VERY low calories before that is even a little true.0 -
auddi, did someone pee in your Wheaties ? I wasnt having a "temper tantrum" I was just stating that I HAVE tried the eating more and it doesnt work for me...everytime I try it I gain !!!! I wasnt JUST basing it on last nights bing......
It's not for everyone. you'd think it was from the way it's mantra around here but it's definitely not true for everyone. the real message should be make sure you're not at too huge a deficit because losing weight too fast isn't healthy. but that isn't as appealing as JUST EAT MORE.
the whole your metabolism will slow down thing is hocus. you have to be eating VERY low calories before that is even a little true.
Amazing how many different opinions and all think they are right 0 -
Simply eating more for a couple of months didn't help me start losing again after I hit the inevitable plateau after about 9 months, but what did work for me was calorie cycling. I am eating the same calories over a weeks time, but I now have 2 very low cal days and 2 fairly high cal days spread thruout the week. Finally starting to lose again. Don't know WHY it worked for me, but am just happy that it did. But I still have 25 lbs to get to a healthy weight again.
And as for the "You will weigh this amount in 5 weeks" message? Yeah, it lies like a dog!!0 -
It's not for everyone. you'd think it was from the way it's mantra around here but it's definitely not true for everyone. the real message should be make sure you're not at too huge a deficit because losing weight too fast isn't healthy. but that isn't as appealing as JUST EAT MORE.
the whole your metabolism will slow down thing is hocus. you have to be eating VERY low calories before that is even a little true.
True, not too huge a deficit.
From what though? Some imaginary number plucked from user's choice of settings that are not realistic?
And you might want to do some reading on just how easy it can be to slow your metabolism down, and how long it can stay suppressed even after reaching maintenance and eating more.
Several studies mentioned in this thread in many spots.
There can be other reasons for the effect of course, but it does happen even in controlled lab studies.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1077746-starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss0 -
It's not for everyone. you'd think it was from the way it's mantra around here but it's definitely not true for everyone. the real message should be make sure you're not at too huge a deficit because losing weight too fast isn't healthy. but that isn't as appealing as JUST EAT MORE.
the whole your metabolism will slow down thing is hocus. you have to be eating VERY low calories before that is even a little true.
True, not too huge a deficit.
From what though? Some imaginary number plucked from user's choice of settings that are not realistic?
And you might want to do some reading on just how easy it can be to slow your metabolism down, and how long it can stay suppressed even after reaching maintenance and eating more.
Several studies mentioned in this thread in many spots.
There can be other reasons for the effect of course, but it does happen even in controlled lab studies.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1077746-starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss
I also heard the starvation mode was bs too.....guess its like everything else all mostly opinons0 -
You need to change it up! Your body is used to you eating all the same things and doing all the same workouts.... Spice it up a little.0
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"Starvation mode" is used all sorts of ways, and so the term itself has no meaning. Many people act like it starts instantly, which it only would if you use the strictest definition (you don't eat food at all for 3 or more days and literally start starving to death).It's not for everyone. you'd think it was from the way it's mantra around here but it's definitely not true for everyone. the real message should be make sure you're not at too huge a deficit because losing weight too fast isn't healthy. but that isn't as appealing as JUST EAT MORE.
the whole your metabolism will slow down thing is hocus. you have to be eating VERY low calories before that is even a little true.
True, not too huge a deficit.
From what though? Some imaginary number plucked from user's choice of settings that are not realistic?
And you might want to do some reading on just how easy it can be to slow your metabolism down, and how long it can stay suppressed even after reaching maintenance and eating more.
Several studies mentioned in this thread in many spots.
There can be other reasons for the effect of course, but it does happen even in controlled lab studies.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1077746-starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss
I also heard the starvation mode was bs too.....guess its like everything else all mostly opinons
However, many people are referring to adaptive thermogenesis (as Bales posted), which has been shown in several studies and scientific articles. It may be worth reading. It can affect your calories, and many people believe refeed periods can be beneficial during a diet. If I were you, I'd read some of the articles that have been posted.0 -
well im eating more and.....my weight is up more than it has been in a year0
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yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol0
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just give up then. you are looking at minor weight fluctuations after you've been netting way less than you should be- of course your body is saying "Food!" and changing things around.
It isn't an overnight results plan. If you want overnight results then good luck. You've received a lot of good advice in this thread, if you really want it to work step back and heed some of it.
BTW, it's LOSE weight. not LOOSE. Loose is how your pants fit after you lose weight.0 -
just give up then. you are looking at minor weight fluctuations after you've been netting way less than you should be- of course your body is saying "Food!" and changing things around.
It isn't an overnight results plan. If you want overnight results then good luck. You've received a lot of good advice in this thread, if you really want it to work step back and heed some of it.
BTW, it's LOSE weight. not LOOSE. Loose is how your pants fit after you lose weight.
So much this. There have been I think several links to why you may initially gain weight when you try to increase calories after undereating. You can read them or you can spin a tale woe is me. At some point you need to start doing the research and believing it or just spend the rest of your life eating low calories a day and never being able to eat more than that (and likely having little energy at some point).0 -
just give up then. you are looking at minor weight fluctuations after you've been netting way less than you should be- of course your body is saying "Food!" and changing things around.
It isn't an overnight results plan. If you want overnight results then good luck. You've received a lot of good advice in this thread, if you really want it to work step back and heed some of it.
BTW, it's LOSE weight. not LOOSE. Loose is how your pants fit after you lose weight.0 -
just give up then. you are looking at minor weight fluctuations after you've been netting way less than you should be- of course your body is saying "Food!" and changing things around.
It isn't an overnight results plan. If you want overnight results then good luck. You've received a lot of good advice in this thread, if you really want it to work step back and heed some of it.
BTW, it's LOSE weight. not LOOSE. Loose is how your pants fit after you lose weight.
Thx for the spelling lesson...tell my spell check and auto type that0 -
I'm up and down all the time. I weigh daily - it's habit. Last weekend I was 400 calories over goal, and down more than a pound the next morning. A little more a couple days later. Today I'm up two pounds, despite being on target the past few days. It's not linear - weight naturally fluctuates up and down by several pounds all the time. As long as the overall trend is the right direction, and my clothes still fit and the tape measure shows progress, it's all good.
Over the past month I've been up and down as much as 5lbs - yet the tape shows that I've lost inches. Don't put too much stock in the scale. Fuel your body for your life and workouts, keep moving, drink water, get good rest, take days off. And be patient. :bigsmile:
THIS! I weigh myself more often than I should, but I have learned to not let the daily fluctuations get me down. I've had a 5 lb swing IN ONE DAY. I know that's not fat gain/loss, it's water. I look in the mirror and use a tape measure to judge my true progress.0 -
When you increase calories (and I know this has been stated more than once in here), you will likely show a gain at first! You cannot say whether or not a new calorie amount is working until you've given it a solid 4-6 weeks to allow the body to adjust to the new intake - especially when you've been eating much lower.yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
You've gotten so much solid advice and info here, so many people telling you their own experiences and how it works, but you seem to just want to be convinced that it won't work for you, and you ignore all the people telling you it will take some time and patience!
I dunno what else to tell ya.0 -
When you increase calories (and I know this has been stated more than once in here), you will likely show a gain at first! You cannot say whether or not a new calorie amount is working until you've given it a solid 4-6 weeks to allow the body to adjust to the new intake - especially when you've been eating much lower.yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
You've gotten so much solid advice and info here, so many people telling you their own experiences and how it works, but you seem to just want to be convinced that it won't work for you, and you ignore all the people telling you it will take some time and patience!
I dunno what else to tell ya.
well its not that I dont "want" to believe it when I have tried in the past it just doesnt work for me ! Yes I have seen others post here it does work but....IF you read ALL the posts you will see others too that say it doesnt work....0 -
yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
It's been what? About two weeks since you started increasing your calories? I know how frustrating it is to be stuck, especially when you're working so hard, but I think you need to step back and give it some more time to work. Most people recommend 4-6 weeks after you increase your calories before the fluctuations taper off.
Eating less wasn't working for you and yet you tried it for a lot longer than you've tried eating more. Can I suggest that maybe it's time to put the scale away for a few weeks and focus more on goals that aren't just a number on the scale? You are very close to goal weight, which means the fat is going to come off slowly. It doesn't take a lot of water weight to completely mask the fat loss going on in your body right now. You're going to need to focus on the big picture and that's easy to lose when you're weighing every week at this stage.0 -
yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
It's been what? About two weeks since you started increasing your calories? I know how frustrating it is to be stuck, especially when you're working so hard, but I think you need to step back and give it some more time to work. Most people recommend 4-6 weeks after you increase your calories before the fluctuations taper off.
Eating less wasn't working for you and yet you tried it for a lot longer than you've tried eating more. Can I suggest that maybe it's time to put the scale away for a few weeks and focus more on goals that aren't just a number on the scale? You are very close to goal weight, which means the fat is going to come off slowly. It doesn't take a lot of water weight to completely mask the fat loss going on in your body right now. You're going to need to focus on the big picture and that's easy to lose when you're weighing every week at this stage.
Yea I hear ya,,,,But....eating LESS and exercise IS what got me down over 50 pounds,,,seemed to have flatlined after that...my goal is to stay at 140...do my daily run or bike,,,and eat what I want to within reason....I dont think eating 2k cals a day is the answer but I do understand I havent given it that long but im seeing a 3 pound gain in 3 weeks0 -
yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
It's been what? About two weeks since you started increasing your calories? I know how frustrating it is to be stuck, especially when you're working so hard, but I think you need to step back and give it some more time to work. Most people recommend 4-6 weeks after you increase your calories before the fluctuations taper off.
Eating less wasn't working for you and yet you tried it for a lot longer than you've tried eating more. Can I suggest that maybe it's time to put the scale away for a few weeks and focus more on goals that aren't just a number on the scale? You are very close to goal weight, which means the fat is going to come off slowly. It doesn't take a lot of water weight to completely mask the fat loss going on in your body right now. You're going to need to focus on the big picture and that's easy to lose when you're weighing every week at this stage.
Yea I hear ya,,,,But....eating LESS and exercise IS what got me down over 50 pounds,,,seemed to have flatlined after that...my goal is to stay at 140...do my daily run or bike,,,and eat what I want to within reason....I dont think eating 2k cals a day is the answer but I do understand I havent given it that long but im seeing a 3 pound gain in 3 weeks
Also I assumed drinking lots of water would CAUSE gain...but people here say it flushes sodium ??0 -
yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
It's been what? About two weeks since you started increasing your calories? I know how frustrating it is to be stuck, especially when you're working so hard, but I think you need to step back and give it some more time to work. Most people recommend 4-6 weeks after you increase your calories before the fluctuations taper off.
Eating less wasn't working for you and yet you tried it for a lot longer than you've tried eating more. Can I suggest that maybe it's time to put the scale away for a few weeks and focus more on goals that aren't just a number on the scale? You are very close to goal weight, which means the fat is going to come off slowly. It doesn't take a lot of water weight to completely mask the fat loss going on in your body right now. You're going to need to focus on the big picture and that's easy to lose when you're weighing every week at this stage.
Yea I hear ya,,,,But....eating LESS and exercise IS what got me down over 50 pounds,,,seemed to have flatlined after that...my goal is to stay at 140...do my daily run or bike,,,and eat what I want to within reason....I dont think eating 2k cals a day is the answer but I do understand I havent given it that long but im seeing a 3 pound gain in 3 weeks
Also I assumed drinking lots of water would CAUSE gain...but people here say it flushes sodium ??
Drinking water causes less water retention. I don't know why and it's counter-intuitive, but yes water is good for you.0 -
yup up again today.....so much for eating more to loose,lol
It's been what? About two weeks since you started increasing your calories? I know how frustrating it is to be stuck, especially when you're working so hard, but I think you need to step back and give it some more time to work. Most people recommend 4-6 weeks after you increase your calories before the fluctuations taper off.
Eating less wasn't working for you and yet you tried it for a lot longer than you've tried eating more. Can I suggest that maybe it's time to put the scale away for a few weeks and focus more on goals that aren't just a number on the scale? You are very close to goal weight, which means the fat is going to come off slowly. It doesn't take a lot of water weight to completely mask the fat loss going on in your body right now. You're going to need to focus on the big picture and that's easy to lose when you're weighing every week at this stage.
Yea I hear ya,,,,But....eating LESS and exercise IS what got me down over 50 pounds,,,seemed to have flatlined after that...my goal is to stay at 140...do my daily run or bike,,,and eat what I want to within reason....I dont think eating 2k cals a day is the answer but I do understand I havent given it that long but im seeing a 3 pound gain in 3 weeks
Also I assumed drinking lots of water would CAUSE gain...but people here say it flushes sodium ??
Well ed o cut itof a few hours before bed or I will be up every hour over 300 posts so far...man this is a popular one
Drinking water causes less water retention. I don't know why and it's counter-intuitive, but yes water is good for you.0 -
I see today i will be under again....not sire what to fill up on if im under...I know I would like it to be ice cream.....I now the pretzles at night are probably not good 0
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