Harming children to make yourself feel good?

I will feed all of your children cookies, brownies and cake. Fair warning!

My house will have all of the snack food, I will bake pies and cupcakes.

I will have a tire swing and a unfinished tree house. There will be a bike ramp to do tricks off of. Someone will end up needing stitches.

Add a pony and it's the way I grew up...... good times.

I am troubled by the one or two frames of what looks like Blue's Clues Thinking Chair. Why? Why is that there?

omg, you are right! :laugh:

Subliminal message?

I will feed all of your children cookies, brownies and cake. Fair warning!

My house will have all of the snack food, I will bake pies and cupcakes.

I will have a tire swing and a unfinished tree house. There will be a bike ramp to do tricks off of. Someone will end up needing stitches.

Me and my kids are coming to your house!

^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.

How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.

Except it doesn't make they hyper. Studies have repeatedly showed this.

ETA: As usual, a bunch of people already beat me to it. Including the study where the Mom's seemed to got hyper 'cause they thought their kid's sugar eating would make them hyper. LOL

^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.

How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.

^^ I was thinking the same thing.

Generally, the times kids get more sugar are at parties, holidays,etc and the hyperactivity has more to do with the excitement of the party than with sugar consumption Also the expectations of the parents that the child would become hyper led to more hyperactivity.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130722-does-sugar-make-kids-hyperactive

It looks like that is referring to ADHD. ADHD is not the same as a "sugar high," which is a burst of energy experienced after eating sugar, generally followed by a "crash." Sucrose is sheer carbohydrate. It's like raw energy.

And as far as the placebo effect, I don't seem to notice sugar affecting me, but if I have a Starbucks instead of my normal black coffee, I will often get questions about my behavior. I imagine that if I had Starbucks on a regular basis, then it wouldn't happen. There is something to be said for "tolerance" levels on an individual basis.

The articles speaks mostly about kids getting hyper at parties. Towards the end it mentions a possible link between long term sugar consumption and ADHD.

There is many problem with the linked article with the meta-analyasis:
1) outdated, It is made in 1995, reviewing articles that often much older than that.
2) Most article which refused the sugar high hypothesis based on simple trials, when one group of kid got sugar(sucrose), and the other group got aspartame and the third group got saccharin and they didn't find much difference in behavior in the kids.... Well based on this the sugar high hypothesis can not be credible refuted. It only can be said that various artificial sweeteners are not any better , which are been showed many times over recently
3) Most studies focus on school age children average 8 yrs old and they do not find effect. A few studies focused on smaller kids like average 4 yrs old, and those are the one where find difference. I think this shows there is a DOSE question. It matters if the kids get a tiny piece of chocolate or a huge king size candy bar daily basis.
4) Often sugar high studies focus only on sugar , and even emphasize that they ensured the kids do not get additives, preservatives etc. The problem is that is not a realistic scenario. Those super colorful birthday cake frosting , package candies, chocolates, cookies etc doesn't just contain sugar, but tons of coloring, additives, preservatives etc. Many of those has been associated with various behavior problems. If grandma gives my child a homebaked cookie or small slice of a home baked pie after nutritious lunch is fine by me. But when grandma feeds my kid a giant oversized crappy quality "chocolate" bar with no real cocoa content half an hr prior lunch , that is NOT ok.

Crap... 7 more post til the roll!!!

:huh:

Bump

Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.

^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.

True - I was amazed to find out that the research doesn't support the sugar high that kids get - but I'd bet every Mom out there can attest to it!

I'm a firm believer in the placebo effect but I'm not sure it applies when you're talking about the sugar-high in kids. Kids don't know that's how they're "supposed" to respond to sugar.

I remember kids talking about it when I was little, so they definitely know they're "supposed" to get a high from it.

Also I was reading about whether pets experience a placebo effect the other day. The answer was no, but there are some theories as to why it seems that way. Conditioning and expectancy are two of them.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/is-there-a-placebo-effect-for-animals/

If pets can seem to have a placebo effect, the same could be true for kids. And once they're old enough to understand, they're exposed to the idea of the sugar high, which could influence behavior.

Depends on the age of the kid I suppose but I see your point.


** trying to end this thread! **

worst thread ever

crap.... now i'm subscribed to this thread for the next twenty pages.

Regardless of the time of the year, it's just good etiquette to ask a parent of a child if offering them any food is okay. What if the child attained an allergy? Or what if the child is taking a medication and certain foods shouldn't be mixed in with it?

A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition