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  • SymphonynSonata
    SymphonynSonata Posts: 533 Member
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    Most raw vegans (or vegans, or raw foodists, or very strict vegetarians) do not struggle with their weight at all; and infact, can stand to put on a few pounds.

    I can buy that raw vegans or foodists tend to not struggle with their weight, because it's physically harder to put away too much raw food. Regular vegans and strict vegetarians have to monitor intake as much as anyone else. I'm sure there are some lucky vegans that eat intuitively as there are some omnivores that eat intuitively, but I would disagree that it's the norm.

    As for the animals, we've got some real chunkers around our neighborhood. They take advantage of the resources they've got. Why wouldn't they? They may not have it tomorrow. Humans have to use will power or moderation or whatever you want to call it because most of us know that we will have enough tomorrow.

    You're right! I should have wrote very strict before vegans and vegetarians. There are a lot of things that can pack on the pounds for those two groups if they don't watch it carefully. My bad! I was trying to put a lot out there at once. :P

    +1 for soooo many fat cats in my neighborhood! 20+ pounds suckers!
  • FlaxMilk
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    You're right! I should have wrote very strict before vegans and vegetarians. There are a lot of things that can pack on the pounds for those two groups if they don't watch it carefully. My bad! I was trying to put a lot out there at once. :P

    +1 for soooo many fat cats in my neighborhood! 20+ pounds suckers!

    Yep, I'm a vegan who absolutely has to monitor intake if I want to stay at a healthy weight. :grumble:
  • paganstar71
    paganstar71 Posts: 109 Member
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    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
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    I would just like to say that my dog, Zoe has no willpower. She will sit and beg below the cookie jar, silently, giving you that look.... until you give her a cookie. She'll eat the cookie, and repeat the begging and the look, until she gets another. I guess I have no willpower, either. :blushing:
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    It's not just the domesticated animals around the neighborhood, I'm referring to the wild ones too. But owners making the food accessible and the animals eating demonstrates that they too enjoy food, and it's not just based on hunger and survival. We know the favorite foods of our pets-they hound, beg, and steal.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    I would just like to say that my dog, Zoe has no willpower. She will sit and beg below the cookie jar, silently, giving you that look.... until you give her a cookie. She'll eat the cookie, and repeat the begging and the look, until she gets another. I guess I have no willpower, either. :blushing:


    Is she a Lab? She sounds like mine.
    He has also gotten into his dog food bag and ate until he threw up then are some more.
  • jennifer_255
    jennifer_255 Posts: 86 Member
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    damn nosing at this thread i now want american pancakes bacon syrup n icecream too boohooo u allll instead im having my night snack as sprouts lol then again thats why im close to my goal so i shouldnt moan lol
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
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    I would just like to say that my dog, Zoe has no willpower. She will sit and beg below the cookie jar, silently, giving you that look.... until you give her a cookie. She'll eat the cookie, and repeat the begging and the look, until she gets another. I guess I have no willpower, either. :blushing:


    Is she a Lab? She sounds like mine.
    He has also gotten into his dog food bag and ate until he threw up then are some more.

    My lab, Sam, is fed at 4pm so that he is full and to keep him from begging at the table. We do not feed him from the table, but he continues to beg and worst of all - drool like a faucet! We say that where food is concerned he is "ever hopeful".
  • xxmzangel
    xxmzangel Posts: 119 Member
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    Bump, because this thread is awesome. :drinker:
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
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    Domesticated animals like cats and dogs can get fat because they are fed treats and scraps that they shouldn't have access to by their owners.

    So. They lack willpower then?
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
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    Is she a Lab? She sounds like mine.

    Zoe is a Lab crossed with the devil. She would require an entirely separate thread.
    He has also gotten into his dog food bag and ate until he threw up then are some more.

    There is a diagnosis for that. :smile:
    My lab, Sam, is fed at 4pm so that he is full and to keep him from begging at the table. We do not feed him from the table, but he continues to beg and worst of all - drool like a faucet! We say that where food is concerned he is "ever hopeful".

    Doesn't matter when we feed Zoe... even if we feed her at the same time, she'll beg at the table, until we are completely done, then she might eat her supper, or she might wait until the dishes are done, before she eats her own. We certainly enable her.... we don't often give her anything straight from the table, but she almost always gets some kind of table scrap after we are done. On Fast Food Fridays, when we eat takeaway in front of the TV... she picks the most likely target family member, and camps out, until they are done, and then moves on. She always gets something on Fast Food Friday. If she's fed before or during our meal, she'll run downstairs as soon as our food comes through the door.
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
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    She always gets something on Fast Food Friday. If she's fed before or during our meal, she'll run downstairs as soon as our food comes through the door.

    I don't really like fast food, but hubby gets it one night about every two weeks. Sam knows the word cheeseburger and will come running when we begin to talk about what he will order. That word must never be said - unless there will be a double in it for him.
  • SymphonynSonata
    SymphonynSonata Posts: 533 Member
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    My dog throws up when I feed him meat. He's totally okay with dry dog food but wet dog food and/or meat? Oh God. It's a nightmare! He does love potato chips though. He's about 8 pounds and can eat a whole bag of chips on his own if I let him. Same with buttered popcorn. I think I have a closet vegetarianish dog.

    <- say hi!
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
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    In for food porn.
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
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    My dog throws up when I feed him meat. He's totally okay with dry dog food but wet dog food and/or meat? Oh God. It's a nightmare! He does love potato chips though. He's about 8 pounds and can eat a whole bag of chips on his own if I let him. Same with buttered popcorn. I think I have a closet vegetarianish dog.

    <- say hi!

    He's cute!
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    In for food porn.

    You're late, the topic is on to dogs now (I'm not complaining)
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
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    <- say hi!

    Hi, Dog !
  • beachlover317
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    My sweet Sammy. He's guarding all the presents at Christmas.
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
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    I don't really like fast food, but hubby gets it one night about every two weeks. Sam knows the word cheeseburger and will come running when we begin to talk about what he will order. That word must never be said - unless there will be a double in it for him.

    Zoe knows all her favorite food names. I'm pretty sure she can tell them apart. We bribe Zoe to get her to come out to do her last business in the evening. With food. The speed at which she responds seems to be related to what food it is. 'Zoe, come for steak' probably gets a slightly faster response time, than 'Zoe, come for chicken.' Unless, maybe, it's 'gucked up chicken...' Sometimes the sauce really makes it. We even have to spell the word 'M-E-A-T' to try to disguise it from her, if we aren't actually offering it to her.

    She so dearly loves french fries.... we always have to save french fries for her after a Fast Food Friday meal. A little bit of burger, and some fries, A few fries when she comes to the door to go out and do her business... and the rest, when the business is done. You should see the look of total disdain on her face, on the odd day when I might eat a salad with no M-E-A-T on it.... she's just like WTF?:huh:

    * ETA * We try not to feed her much sugar though.... ( to stay on topic ) :wink: To much salt, sometimes, but not alot of sugar.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    I don't really like fast food, but hubby gets it one night about every two weeks. Sam knows the word cheeseburger and will come running when we begin to talk about what he will order. That word must never be said - unless there will be a double in it for him.

    Zoe knows all her favorite food names. I'm pretty sure she can tell them apart. We bribe Zoe to get her to come out to do her last business in the evening. With food. The speed at which she responds seems to be related to what food it is. 'Zoe, come for steak' probably gets a slightly faster response time, than 'Zoe, come for chicken.' Unless, maybe, it's 'gucked up chicken...' Sometimes the sauce really makes it. We even have to spell the word 'M-E-A-T' to try to disguise it from her, if we aren't actually offering it to her.

    She so dearly loves french fries.... we always have to save french fries for her after a Fast Food Friday meal. A little bit of burger, and some fries, A few fries when she comes to the door to go out and do her business... and the rest, when the business is done. You should see the look of total disdain on her face, on the odd day when I might eat a salad with no M-E-A-T on it.... she's just like WTF?:huh:

    I made the mistake of giving my lab a treat everytime he went out to do his business. All of the sudden I started noticing he had to go all. the. time. Then I let him out, he ran to the tree, didn't even lift his leg and ran back to collect his treat. Now its random rewards.


    Loving the dog pics.