Girls do you like a nice guy? You just friendzoned him
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What guys/people who like girls don't understand is that just because you're nice doesn't mean you're automatically a person that someone wants to date. Girls (and people in general) aren't dating robots that you put friendliness and compliment coins into until they give you a relationship or sex.0
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I like a nice guy and haven't friendzoned him....
.... yet
Dont make me FZ you plz
you can't FZ barbies
(yes I saw that
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The hell I can't. 0 -
From skimming through this thread (I ain't reading all that), I've learned two very interesting things:
1) We no longer burn necromancers at the stake
2) The only thing more annoying than guys whining about not getting laid is girls whining about guys whining about not getting laid
Although, I guess I'm whining about girls whining about guys whining about not getting laid, so... I win?0 -
I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.0
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I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.
Hi, I hear you are single and have great eyebrows.0 -
I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.
QFT
that's why you have to find one who's kind of a **** to everyone but you0 -
Friendzoned? Nope. Kissed him and have been dating since then. :-)0
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Being passive aggressive and calling someone a stupid *kitten* doesn't sound like a nice guy move to me. Just sayin.
Not quite. I've been the nice guy more times than I'd like to admit and I have a few friends who are still the nice guy. Nice guys don't always have poor social skills or expect anyone to have sex with them just for being nice. Basically, they just lack confidence when it comes to women."Nice guy" = entitled man with poor social skills who believes that women owe him sex (or a relationship if he's the type who insists that it's not about sex) if he displays the bare minimum of being (or pretending to be) a decent human being.
Women like guys with confidence, and they need to feel like they're pretty and desirable. Nice guys get put into the friendzone because they don't have the balls to make a move and they fear rejection, so they just act overly nice towards the girls they like in hopes that they'll make the move instead. Women write this off as a turnoff or a lack of interest and that's where the friendzone comes in. And then the nice guy gets confused when the girl falls for the guy with confidence even though he treats her like crap.
The lack of confidence isn't the real reason women hate the "nice guy" bull****, because we completely understand the lack of confidence and fear of rejection involved with making the first move (especially since, particularly in our media, schlubby dudes aggressively going after hot girls are glorified and she's supposed to give him a chance, but a girl that you think is less attractive than you expressing that makes her pathetic in the same media). It's the fact that a lot of "nice guys" get super pissed and ****ty and passive-aggressive when the girl--that assumes that him being nice and acting like a friend means he desires to be FRIENDS with her--doesn't fall into his arms. It's a real let-down when all of a sudden the guy that you felt a great friend-connection with blows up and talks about how you're stupid and/or a *kitten* because you end up dating someone else other than him. Just sayin'.
But you do have a point that they will be your friend and listen to all your BS and think you have some sort of connection, so why not date? They don't really get that they are just another girlfriend to them if there's no sexual tension.
Regular guys know it's impossible to be friends with a girl you want to bang, and don't want to bother with all the BS unless they are going to get laid. Nice guys will do it for the pleasure of your company and for the one in a million chance that they'll change their mind.0 -
I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.
QFT
that's why you have to find one who's kind of a **** to everyone but you
You don't want him to be nice to you.....What fun is it getting punished by him if he's smiling and talking nicely to you? You've been a very bad girl.0 -
I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.
QFT
that's why you have to find one who's kind of a **** to everyone but you
You don't want him to be nice to you.....What fun is it getting punished by him if he's smiling and talking nicely to you? You've been a very bad girl.
oh my
hi jac0 -
It's true right?
Beta zone!
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It's true right?
Beta zone!
Vodka and pizza?0 -
I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.
This is probably a byproduct of the female lifecycle.
Teens-20ish: Plow through as many jerks as possible
20ish-30ish: Date jerks since that's slightly better than plowing through them
30ish-40ish: Marry a jerk who has mostly bad qualities but a couple good ones (cheater with a drinking problem who loves puppies for instance)
40ish+: Find actual nice guy to take care of ex-husbands kids since the boys at the bar don't seem to be buying her as many drinks as they used to
In other words, nice guys don't get much batting practice.0 -
It's true right?
Beta zone!
Vodka and pizza?
Annnnd that's how it's done0 -
I don't friendzone nice guys, I friendzone boring wussies.0
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Ha ha.
I'm a dam good woman and when I was single men were not exactly beating down my door. Heck, I'm 37 and not married yet!I
these threads.
They're magnets for stereotypes, bitterness, *kitten* hats, and anti-social personalities.
So . . . In.
IKR? So many hateful women in here.
I still hold that finding a great woman is harder than finding a great man.
I don't know about how common either good men or good women are, but I know I got lucky.
I think you both did. Trust me when I say, as a single man, that good women are scarce and most are already married.
Just sayin'.
They're out there. You're just too busy looking at the Barbie dolls. :flowerforyou:
Soon.
I've been with my fiance for nine years and we're getting married ni the summer.
Honestly, I have a ton of interests and talents and marriage isn't my main objective. I'm just pointing out that men may complain there aren't "good women" out there, but they really aren't looking very hard. Or they're looking in the wrong places.
It's not even that I've been single-single. I've had relationships (some with jerks and some that just didn't work out). But during the times I was single as an adult, it wasn't like men were chasing me left and right, either.0 -
It's true right?
Beta zone!
Vodka and pizza?
Annnnd that's how it's done
Entice your prey with delicious food and then give them booze so they make bad decisions.0 -
Being a girl's good friend does not guarantee you a relationship (or, rather what most guys who use this "friendzone" term want, sex.) Girls are people. Most people will not want a sexual relationship with everyone they meet. Romantic and sexual relationships happen when there's a mutual attraction in that way. If it's not there for one person, the other has the right to be sad, but complaining about the other person as if there's something wrong with them shows you're an idiot. Friendships are great and do not have to be sexual to be valued as deeply.
Problems like this occur when there's a societal gender binary and sexist social norms. Ugh.0 -
I like the nice guys just fine, but I've noticed the not-always-so-nice guys are the ones that will take charge a bit more in the bedroom.
This is probably a byproduct of the female lifecycle.
Teens-20ish: Plow through as many jerks as possible
20ish-30ish: Date jerks since that's slightly better than plowing through them
30ish-40ish: Marry a jerk who has mostly bad qualities but a couple good ones (cheater with a drinking problem who loves puppies for instance)
40ish+: Find actual nice guy to take care of ex-husbands kids since the boys at the bar don't seem to be buying her as many drinks as they used to
In other words, nice guys don't get much batting practice.
Don't you know how to get to Carnegie Hall?
... Practice.0 -
I think that the friend zone thing is often an excuse. Sorry. Some women like them bad, but for the most part, there's usually a reason you're friend zoned. You just have to find the reason. You might not like it, but you need to figure it out.
For example: I've always liked nice guys, but so often many of them lack the confidence to approach women. You know who do have the confidence? Bad boys. If you don't want to be friend zoned, ask a woman you're interested in out. That puts it out there directly.
I've been happily married to a nice guy for years.0 -
It's true right?
Beta zone!
Vodka and pizza?
Annnnd that's how it's done
Entice your prey with delicious food and then give them booze so they make bad decisions.
Alcohol and offers of candy in my van have yet to work. Tranquilizer darts are next on the list.
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What can I say: Some girls are into the dudes that make mix tapes for them and some aren't. (Most aren't)
Never surrender! But definitely move on. Never burn bridges because she might have a cute friend or sister.
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Being a girl's good friend does not guarantee you a relationship (or, rather what most guys who use this "friendzone" term want, sex.) Girls are people. Most people will not want a sexual relationship with everyone they meet. Romantic and sexual relationships happen when there's a mutual attraction in that way. If it's not there for one person, the other has the right to be sad, but complaining about the other person as if there's something wrong with them shows you're an idiot. Friendships are great and do not have to be sexual to be valued as deeply.
Problems like this occur when there's a societal gender binary and sexist social norms. Ugh.
Yep!! True and well said! Accept it and move on - she is just not that into you!!0 -
It is always a little interesting to FZ women who dont really fit well with what I am looking for. They generally are not sure what to make of it.0
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Why do you want to be friends with boring wussies?I don't friendzone nice guys, I friendzone boring wussies.0 -
It's true right?
Beta zone!
Vodka and pizza?
Annnnd that's how it's done
Entice your prey with delicious food and then give them booze so they make bad decisions.
Alcohol and offers of candy in my van have yet to work. Tranquilizer darts are next on the list.
Offer me PB or pretzel m&ms and I will be tossing my boxers at you.0 -
Why do you want to be friends with boring wussies?I don't friendzone nice guys, I friendzone boring wussies.
For their skills in magic.0 -
Roadie, it's not letting me reply to you for some reason, so I'll just say it here. The thing about waiting around for that "one in a million chance" is that once the girl you're interested in realizes that's what you want, it creates this weird rift. I don't speak for every girl, obviously, but I don't like having that unspoken expectation that one day I'll come around. That kind of thing makes us feel really crappy, even though we are in no way obligated to go out with someone we don't want to go out with. If we have no interest in a guy romantically, sexually, or both, then why should we be pressed to date them just because they're interested in us? That's really not fair. If we really enjoy your friendship for what it is, then oftentimes WE'RE hoping that you'll eventually lose interest and get over it so we can carry on having a nice, platonic relationship with you without watching everything we say and do to make sure you're not reading into it. I'm sure there are some guys out there that don't get bitter and angry when the girl they spend a lot of attention on refuses to give into that pressure, but it seems like the overwhelming majority do. If we break off the relationship once it's apparent that they're interested, we're not, and there's nothing to be done? Well, then we're *****es. If we continue on with the friendship because we don't want to hurt their feelings and we do honestly like them as a friend, but they refuse to accept that? Well, then we're double *****es.
We get told day in and day out that we're supposed to be nice. But being nice often leads the door to stay open to crap we don't want. On that note, there's a lot of guys that claim to be in the friendzone that aren't. They're actually in the, "Jesus Christ why won't this guy get over himself or leave me the hell alone" zone.0 -
It's true right?
Beta zone!
Vodka and pizza?
Annnnd that's how it's done
Entice your prey with delicious food and then give them booze so they make bad decisions.
Alcohol and offers of candy in my van have yet to work. Tranquilizer darts are next on the list.
Offer me PB or pretzel m&ms and I will be tossing my boxers at you.
There is a bag of pretzel m&ms in my car. No joke. One of those big giant bags.0
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