chubby or skinny

The one with the highest credit score and deepest wallet.

Finally, a women that's honest instead of politically correct.

Lol. I wasn't serious.

I can totally believe that, I left my last job because I was pretty much forced out, slim and blonde (wouldn't consider myself beautiful!) seems to trigger some women into meltdown. It got so bad that I had self confidence issues taking my son out to toddler groups and the like. Try being a slim mother, ostracized is totally the right word. Complete with nasty comments, dirty looks, whispering behind hands and outright attacks.

Try being in your early 20s, thin and pretty in the suburbs with a kid in elementary school. 90% of the mothers wouldn't even look at me. And the ONLY ones who were nice were the ones who were thinner and prettier. I guess they weren't threatened?

Both I guess, as long as it's not extreme either way and they are healthy!

Exactly this.

At first I would say skinny, because the chubbier guys I've dated had some serious insecurity and self-esteem issues associated with being a little bigger, but I guess skinny guys can have their esteem issues with being smaller.. I would prefer to date a guy who is comfortable with who they are as a person, chubby or skinny.

That's because the women the chubby guys have met have generally not been at all accepting of it LOL. Seriously, try to talk to a girl at a bar as a 300lb guy. It's not exactly a positive experience. Are all women flat out rude? Of course not. Do most dismiss you almost immediately. Yes. It's 10,000 times more harder than if you're skinny.

A few points-
300 pounds is not chubby
Bars are meat markets where people make judgments based on looks.
Are you accepting of yourself at 300 lbs?
-If not, then why would you expect someone else to be accepting of it?
-If you do accept that weight for yourself, do you accept it for the girl as well?

Is life easier for a fit person than a morbidly obese person? Yes, it is, in general.

Life is also easier for an able-bodied person, than for someone in a wheelchair.
I learned a long time ago that life is not fair.
I can either be bitter about it, or I can do what I can to change what I can, and accept what can't be changed and make the best of it.
It is all about your attitude.

The one with the highest credit score and deepest wallet.

Finally, a women that's honest instead of politically correct.

Lol. I wasn't serious.

Neither was I, but see how quickly people got worked up.

I can totally believe that, I left my last job because I was pretty much forced out, slim and blonde (wouldn't consider myself beautiful!) seems to trigger some women into meltdown. It got so bad that I had self confidence issues taking my son out to toddler groups and the like. Try being a slim mother, ostracized is totally the right word. Complete with nasty comments, dirty looks, whispering behind hands and outright attacks.

Try being in your early 20s, thin and pretty in the suburbs with a kid in elementary school. 90% of the mothers wouldn't even look at me. And the ONLY ones who were nice were the ones who were thinner and prettier. I guess they weren't threatened?

My mother had me young and had the same issue. I suspect women think I'm younger than I am purely because I'm short. I get ID'd all the time despite being WAY past that! I've had a few "well you do bounce back into shape if you have a baby whilst you're still a child yourself" comments, having had my one and only at 30 I wouldn't consider 30 a child!

Ha!

Yeah ... I have some really good genes as far as aging goes. I live in a college town and I get asked all the time what my major is.

I was running with friends at a park a couple years ago and we were talking about my daughter. I mentioned her age (I think 17 at the time) and a guy running past actually stopped to tell me how shocked he was because he thought I was only 16 ... I wear my hair in a bun when I workout and I think that makes me look even younger.

But women can just be so mean.

I can totally believe that, I left my last job because I was pretty much forced out, slim and blonde (wouldn't consider myself beautiful!) seems to trigger some women into meltdown. It got so bad that I had self confidence issues taking my son out to toddler groups and the like. Try being a slim mother, ostracized is totally the right word. Complete with nasty comments, dirty looks, whispering behind hands and outright attacks.

Try being in your early 20s, thin and pretty in the suburbs with a kid in elementary school. 90% of the mothers wouldn't even look at me. And the ONLY ones who were nice were the ones who were thinner and prettier. I guess they weren't threatened?

My mother had me young and had the same issue. I suspect women think I'm younger than I am purely because I'm short. I get ID'd all the time despite being WAY past that! I've had a few "well you do bounce back into shape if you have a baby whilst you're still a child yourself" comments, having had my one and only at 30 I wouldn't consider 30 a child!

Ha!

Yeah ... I have some really good genes as far as aging goes. I live in a college town and I get asked all the time what my major is.

I was running with friends at a park a couple years ago and we were talking about my daughter. I mentioned her age (I think 17 at the time) and a guy running past actually stopped to tell me how shocked he was because he thought I was only 16 ... I wear my hair in a bun when I workout and I think that makes me look even younger.

But women can just be so mean.

It does seem to be primarily women who are the mean ones. I had my children young (I was 17 with the first and just turned 19 with the second). So having my children that young, and living in a very small town, it was a lot of fun going to their school activities. The other mothers were typically 10-20 years older than I was.
Even at work I've had issues, especially when it comes to weight -one time when I was cold, a coworker told me, "maybe you wouldn't be so cold all the time if you'd just put some meat on your bones". And when treats were brought and I didn't eat them (I'm gluten-intolerant, and they were always baked goods) I was made fun of for starving myself.

I can totally believe that, I left my last job because I was pretty much forced out, slim and blonde (wouldn't consider myself beautiful!) seems to trigger some women into meltdown. It got so bad that I had self confidence issues taking my son out to toddler groups and the like. Try being a slim mother, ostracized is totally the right word. Complete with nasty comments, dirty looks, whispering behind hands and outright attacks.

Try being in your early 20s, thin and pretty in the suburbs with a kid in elementary school. 90% of the mothers wouldn't even look at me. And the ONLY ones who were nice were the ones who were thinner and prettier. I guess they weren't threatened?

My mother had me young and had the same issue. I suspect women think I'm younger than I am purely because I'm short. I get ID'd all the time despite being WAY past that! I've had a few "well you do bounce back into shape if you have a baby whilst you're still a child yourself" comments, having had my one and only at 30 I wouldn't consider 30 a child!

Ha!

Yeah ... I have some really good genes as far as aging goes. I live in a college town and I get asked all the time what my major is.

I was running with friends at a park a couple years ago and we were talking about my daughter. I mentioned her age (I think 17 at the time) and a guy running past actually stopped to tell me how shocked he was because he thought I was only 16 ... I wear my hair in a bun when I workout and I think that makes me look even younger.

But women can just be so mean.

It does seem to be primarily women who are the mean ones. I had my children young (I was 17 with the first and just turned 19 with the second). So having my children that young, and living in a very small town, it was a lot of fun going to their school activities. The other mothers were typically 10-20 years older than I was.
Even at work I've had issues, especially when it comes to weight -one time when I was cold, a coworker told me, "maybe you wouldn't be so cold all the time if you'd just put some meat on your bones". And when treats were brought and I didn't eat them (I'm gluten-intolerant, and they were always baked goods) I was made fun of for starving myself.

I've been really lucky -- though I think it's more about being able to judge character than luck -- within my circle of friends to have strong, positive women who lift each other up rather than tear each other down. Even in high school, my friends were wonderful and we didn't have the ridiculous drama. The older I get and the more people I meet, the more I realize what a problem this is for a lot of women.

I will never understand it.

I can totally believe that, I left my last job because I was pretty much forced out, slim and blonde (wouldn't consider myself beautiful!) seems to trigger some women into meltdown. It got so bad that I had self confidence issues taking my son out to toddler groups and the like. Try being a slim mother, ostracized is totally the right word. Complete with nasty comments, dirty looks, whispering behind hands and outright attacks.

Try being in your early 20s, thin and pretty in the suburbs with a kid in elementary school. 90% of the mothers wouldn't even look at me. And the ONLY ones who were nice were the ones who were thinner and prettier. I guess they weren't threatened?

My mother had me young and had the same issue. I suspect women think I'm younger than I am purely because I'm short. I get ID'd all the time despite being WAY past that! I've had a few "well you do bounce back into shape if you have a baby whilst you're still a child yourself" comments, having had my one and only at 30 I wouldn't consider 30 a child!

Ha!

Yeah ... I have some really good genes as far as aging goes. I live in a college town and I get asked all the time what my major is.

I was running with friends at a park a couple years ago and we were talking about my daughter. I mentioned her age (I think 17 at the time) and a guy running past actually stopped to tell me how shocked he was because he thought I was only 16 ... I wear my hair in a bun when I workout and I think that makes me look even younger.

But women can just be so mean.

It does seem to be primarily women who are the mean ones. I had my children young (I was 17 with the first and just turned 19 with the second). So having my children that young, and living in a very small town, it was a lot of fun going to their school activities. The other mothers were typically 10-20 years older than I was.
Even at work I've had issues, especially when it comes to weight -one time when I was cold, a coworker told me, "maybe you wouldn't be so cold all the time if you'd just put some meat on your bones". And when treats were brought and I didn't eat them (I'm gluten-intolerant, and they were always baked goods) I was made fun of for starving myself.

LOL women seem to hate all the wrong things. If women were stopping to compliment me and other guys hated me because I was so ripped that'd be awesome. Like I said, skinny body shaming isn't nearly the same.

You obviously don't get it.

LOL women seem to hate all the wrong things. If women were stopping to compliment me and other guys hated me because I was so ripped that'd be awesome. Like I said, skinny body shaming isn't nearly the same.

Yes, losing your job for looking good and being bullied for being thin is SO WONDEFUL.

You obviously don't get it.

Guys like you and women want to look like you. What's so bad about that? How is that some sort of life struggle? Get to some point where men are grossed out by you. Then you'll have real problems.

Losing promotions for my looks, losing friends for them, having people on the street say mean things to me for being "too thin"? Not being accepted in social groups like the mothers of all the children in my kids' school based solely on my looks? I brought books and sat and read by myself, every day, while my kids practiced, and when they were at meets and competitions. It was pretty lonely. I've had to work pretty hard to earn my way career-wise as well.
It's also not much fun not being able to eat so many foods and being told how lucky you are for that because you 'get to be thin'. Ignoring the pain that you get to feel instead.

oh poor baby. You lost a promotion on your looks. You can eat anything you want. Oh poor poor skinny girl. Maybe if you didnt rub it in the fat ones faces they might like you a little more. Im sure your poop smells like roses and it offends the toliet as well

Whose faces is she rubbing anything in?

See, the skinny ones rub it in. Look at me.. see what a burden being pretty is. Oh, I cant get a promotion because I'm too pretty. People hate me because I'm skinny. Whatever......

Are you serious? I didn't lose the promotion because I was too pretty, I lost the promotion because my boss wanted me to sleep with him and I refused. I wanted the job based on my own merit.

That's what you keep bragging about. Look at Sarah Palin for an example of looks. The woman was bat**** crazy but people wanted her as vice president because she was hot. Hillary...not hot. Smart but frumpy and fat. Wont be president

Guys like you and women want to look like you. What's so bad about that? How is that some sort of life struggle? Get to some point where men are grossed out by you. Then you'll have real problems.



Amen. I agree.

Honestly? If anything, I would have to assume, based on both of your responses in this thread alone, that if anyone is "grossed" out by the 2 of you, its your ugly, hateful attitude, not your looks.