calories from fruit

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  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    Haha calories from anything can make you gain weight.
    It's very difficult to become overweight on a diet of whole natural plant foods, because they are so low in calories. Your body's satiety mechanism would take over before you got too many calories, and you would no longer have the desire to eat.

    Whole natural plant foods, aside from being loaded with the necessary vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates, amino acids, fatty acids, phyto-chemicals and anti-oxidants to sustain healthy life, are loaded with fiber and water. There is a lot of bulk. Because of the bulk of the fiber and water, whole plant foods physically stretch your stomach, signaling your brain that it's time to stop eating.
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    All animals eating their natural diets do not gain too much weight, even when food is in abundance.
  • iPlatano
    iPlatano Posts: 487 Member
    Haha calories from anything can make you gain weight.
    It's very difficult to become overweight on a diet of whole natural plant foods, because they are so low in calories. Your body's satiety mechanism would take over before you got too many calories, and you would no longer have the desire to eat.

    Whole natural plant foods, aside from being loaded with the necessary vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates, amino acids, fatty acids, phyto-chemicals and anti-oxidants to sustain healthy life, are loaded with fiber and water. There is a lot of bulk. Because of the bulk of the fiber and water, whole plant foods physically stretch your stomach, signaling your brain that it's time to stop eating.
    caloriedensitystomach.jpg

    All animals eating their natural diets do not gain too much weight, even when food is in abundance.

    That's true but look at her stats, it does not says she has lost weight! People with higher body fat percentage have a huge metabolism! Making smoothies can even make eat way more calories without you noticing!
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    All animals eating their natural diets do not gain too much weight, even when food is in abundance.

    Ponies are one counterexample - they will become distressingly fat on a diet of only grass. Some breeds of cattle will also do so. One of the cows on my mother's farm hasn't had anything but grass in ten years and still waddles when she walks.

    If you said 'most animals', I'd say you were right.
  • thejocool
    thejocool Posts: 46
    I think what you were looking for was someone to validate what you were thinking more than support.
    Me, I'm a fruits addict and I realized this week by being here that it is part of the reason why I'm not loosing weight way even more than the occasional cookie or handful of chips that I eat once a month. Like someone said a calorie is a calorie. I was on WW for month and it took me F-O-R-E-V-E-R to loose a few pounds and I was following the program to the point, attending meeting and logging EVERYTHING. But fruits were ''free food''... Being here 5 days and logging everything, even fruit and veggies and I lost two pounds.
    Just my 2 cents ! :)
    My thought is that no one gets fat from eating too many fruits and veggies. It's all the other processed foods and fatty oils that cause you to gain weight and be unhealthy. Fruits and veggies are like cheat items in the way that it doesn't matter how much you eat.

    THANK GOD !!! some one who thinks the same way as me !!!!

    : )
  • thejocool
    thejocool Posts: 46
    Me too because the minute I put a banana in there there's only 12 calories left for all the rest ! I'm highly interested !
    I would also like the recipe for the 112 calories smoothie please!
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    The OP is a vegetarian and also not eating dairy. If a vegetarian does not log fruit and vegetables, what is the point of the food diary? I would expect half if not more of a vegetarians calories to come from vegetables and fruit, no?
  • cstringfellow2013
    cstringfellow2013 Posts: 172 Member
    Me too because the minute I put a banana in there there's only 12 calories left for all the rest ! I'm highly interested !
    I would also like the recipe for the 112 calories smoothie please!

    Y'all are missing the point. It's ONLY 112 calories because she is NOT counting the fruit calories!!!
  • Lisa1971
    Lisa1971 Posts: 3,069 Member
    MMMMMMMMMMMMM...smoothies!
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    My thought is that no one gets fat from eating too many fruits and veggies. It's all the other processed foods and fatty oils that cause you to gain weight and be unhealthy. Fruits and veggies are like cheat items in the way that it doesn't matter how much you eat.

    THANK GOD !!! some one who thinks the same way as me !!!!

    : )

    Well you might like this as a thought but it happens to be untrue.

    Fruits have calories, calorie intake versus calorie burn determines whether you lose fat or gain fat. Period, end of story.

    Now if you also care about health in addition to fat loss then yes what you eat matters in addition to how many calories you eat but this doesn't change the fact that weight loss or gain is wholly determined by how many calories you net each day.

    An apple is going to have about 70 calories, A banana about 100. If you strip out the fiber and drink it as a juice or a smoothie chances are it has a lot of calories as you end up drinking much more. Pretty easy to drink a 500 calorie fruit smoothie.

    Fruit is sugar, there is not much difference between drinking a fruit smoothie and drinking sugar water in terms of calorie intake.
  • dt3312
    dt3312 Posts: 212 Member
    The important thing is this: You said you don't count fruit and eat as much of it as you want. Is this working for you? Are you losing weight? If so, great. Stick with what you're doing. If you're not losing weight or maintaining or whatever your weight goal is, then you might want to consider counting fruit calories.

    It would not work for me because Fruit is my favorite food group, so I can easily go overboard. If left unchecked, between dried fruit and fresh fruit, I could easily eat 15 servings or more per day. I limit myself to 3 to 4 servings per day. One day I snacked on driied bananas. Without thinking, I had consumed 6 bananas!

    My friend is opposite of me. She doesn't like fruit. She has to practically force herself to eat fruit. So she wouldn't need to bother logging fruit.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Vegetables calorie content versus fiber is very low, it would indeed be very hard to eat 2000 calories worth of broccoli for example.

    Fruit however is actually pretty sugar-filled. It is the candy of the natural world. It wouldn't be that hard to eat 2000 calories worth of fruit ESPECIALLY if that fruit is ground into a juice so you skip the fiber part.

    The idea that you can eat all the veg you like is that it is filling for the amount of calories so if you fill your stomach with veg you are likely to eat a little less of a calorie rich food and it balances out. I would not say the same for fruit.

    Personally I find vegetables filling but I do not find fruit filling, I find fruit tasty and I think its a healthy snack but its not a good way to avoid calories and you definitely should log fruit.
  • mfp2014mfp
    mfp2014mfp Posts: 689 Member
    If I didnt log my fruit for the day I would be 250-300 calories over every day, thats 1750-2100 every week.
    That will make a big difference to your weekly outcome :flowerforyou:
  • I log everything i eat, even when I have my bad days like today. I had pizza and am going out later for drinks. I make sure that I keep working out everyday if possible.
    I fill up on salads and log all that too and find that I"m not as hungry. Fruit contains lots of sugar but I find that the more I work out the more sugar cravings I get. I also find that sugar from fruit doesn't satisfy my sugar cravings as much as real sugar does so I've been buying cookies that are low in calories but have the sugar boost I need to keep going. Even when I fill up on veggies, I make sure that I am always about 300 calories under my daily intake and I have been losing weight. I guess it depends on how quickly you want to lose weight. I have noticed that lately I'm hungry so I eat more. Someone told me that I can eat as much veggies as I want but I don't see it that way. Food is food!
  • csontos
    csontos Posts: 76 Member
    Me too because the minute I put a banana in there there's only 12 calories left for all the rest ! I'm highly interested !
    I would also like the recipe for the 112 calories smoothie please!

    Y'all are missing the point. It's ONLY 112 calories because she is NOT counting the fruit calories!!!

    Ohhhhhhhh. Haha whoops. I totally forgot that. I was racking my brain trying to figure out how to come up with a 112 calorie smoothie. I was like water + ice + banana = smoothie?
  • whovian67
    whovian67 Posts: 608 Member
    I count fruit because sugar is sugar for me.. half a banana is a "serving" and so on..
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Honestly fruit is candy. What your body gets out of fruit is some vitamins, some fiber and a lot of sugar. Better than eating a candy-bar sure but you should definitely not discount fruit as a calorie source.
  • Velum_cado
    Velum_cado Posts: 1,608 Member
    OK I get the message some people have gone way over the top. I posted this for support but a lot of you have actually just made me feel crap.

    What? You asked for people's thoughts and you got them.

    Support isn't telling someone what they want to hear.
  • bpotts44
    bpotts44 Posts: 1,066 Member
    My thought is that no one gets fat from eating too many fruits and veggies. It's all the other processed foods and fatty oils that cause you to gain weight and be unhealthy. Fruits and veggies are like cheat items in the way that it doesn't matter how much you eat.

    THANK GOD !!! some one who thinks the same way as me !!!!

    : )

    I don't log my food anymore and feel that its not really necessary; however, I don't eat a lot of fruit and its very easy eating high GI foods to over do it. You mentioned hunger. The way to satisfy your hunger is adequate carbs (100 per day), but most essentially proper protein and fats.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    My thought is that no one gets fat from eating too many fruits and veggies. It's all the other processed foods and fatty oils that cause you to gain weight and be unhealthy. Fruits and veggies are like cheat items in the way that it doesn't matter how much you eat.

    Sorry, but you are 100% mistaken.....
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Whoops, took time to answer the question seriously before reading the rest of the thread to see that the OP had flipped out about not hearing what they wanted to hear and left already. Yay wastes of time.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    My thought is that no one gets fat from eating too many fruits and veggies. It's all the other processed foods and fatty oils that cause you to gain weight and be unhealthy. Fruits and veggies are like cheat items in the way that it doesn't matter how much you eat.

    THANK GOD !!! some one who thinks the same way as me !!!!

    : )

    so thats what you wanted? just someone who thinks like you to pat you on your back and make you believe that you're on the right track?

    no I wanted honest opinions.

    but also to not think that I was insane in way of thoughts.

    but some peoples comments - not yours btw. where very sarcastic and not needed.

    You stated you do something because it's your belief and were told you were wrong, there is no shame in being wrong...

    I wish fruit was calorie free though, the average avocado I buy is 320 calories!!!!

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    It was my belief - It felt nice that someone else thought the same.

    clearly I am wrong as I wouldn't be so fat !! lol

    I wanted help not people making sarcastic comments.

    I will count the calories from now on.

    It just felt ****ty the way some people's comments where. I thought this website was for support not ridicule.

    You have been around a while and I am sure that no matter what a thread is about, there are always a handful of people who make stupid, uninformed and childish remarks, or as it has happened here wrap what otherwise is correct advise in sarcasm. Only you can know if you want to put up with those answers when starting a thread, or if you want to ignore those people's posts ( and if they always do this you can put them on ignore ), or you can of course decide that what ever you need to know is not worth it asking in the threads. Usually complaining about it makes things worse, because for the high& mighty crowd that is an invitation to just keep on being sarcastic.
    One thing I had to learn here and accept to a certain degree; many of those sarcastic people often have good information. I personally just wish they would package it differently.
    If you eat a lot of fruit you really have to log it, especially when considering that the average piece of fruit that is eaten as a single fruit ( like apples, bananas, pears etc ) are around 100-120 calories. It is easy to ingest 500 calories worth of fruit, maybe another 500 or more on smoothies and that is before you have eaten something which is easily another 1000 plus calories. That might be ok for maintenance depending on your height, age weight and activity level, but for most women it is too much to lose weight more ore less consistently.
    Good Luck !
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Whether it's healthy food or not....at some point too many calories is TOO MANY CALORIES. Example - I need to eat at 1500 calories a day to lose weight. I eat those 1500 calories and log everyone EXCEPT the 500 calories in fruit and smoothies I had that day. Result - I've consumed 2000 calories. I am now over my calorie goal for the day. Moral of the story - log everything.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    Haha calories from anything can make you gain weight.
    It's very difficult to become overweight on a diet of whole natural plant foods, because they are so low in calories. Your body's satiety mechanism would take over before you got too many calories, and you would no longer have the desire to eat.

    Whole natural plant foods, aside from being loaded with the necessary vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates, amino acids, fatty acids, phyto-chemicals and anti-oxidants to sustain healthy life, are loaded with fiber and water. There is a lot of bulk. Because of the bulk of the fiber and water, whole plant foods physically stretch your stomach, signaling your brain that it's time to stop eating.
    caloriedensitystomach.jpg

    All animals eating their natural diets do not gain too much weight, even when food is in abundance.

    Not.true.at.all. I got fat because I fell in love with rice while living for 20 years in Asia. I ate a cup of usually brown rice or more for breakfast, lunch and dinner and did not avoid potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, plantains, cassava and mandioca either.....those are all whole plant foods.....except they are all very starchy. And then I could also talk about whole wheat, home made pasta ( also all natural ) and home baked bread from all natural flour ( and no grinding the grain does not fall under " processing " ) and seeds.
    My diet is a diet minimally processed ( usually at home through grinding , chopping, freezing, drying etc ) and based on whole or natural foods and I have eaten it for over 65 years now......and still gained almost 40 kilos/over 80 pounds....because the quantity of food eaten causes weight gain and not the quality. It is true that it is impossible to eat 3000 calories of steamed spinach or plain cucumbers in a day, but making that or a similar point is such a ridiculous extreme that it's not worthwhile answering to.
    And by the way; if a lion would eat a whole gazelle ( part of their natural diet ) every day and not move, that lion would get fat also......as it can be seen in some of the zoos around the world.
  • aklove907
    aklove907 Posts: 118 Member
    I have an obsession with green smoothies at the moment, but I log each and everything I put in them. The calories add up fast, and they do count!

    Good luck on your loss!!
  • sunariel1
    sunariel1 Posts: 34 Member
    OK I get the message some people have gone way over the top. I posted this for support but a lot of you have actually just made me feel crap.

    you posted it for validation, not support. you wanted everyone to tell you that you are right and that you don't need to worry about counting fruit calories. Food is food, to lose weight what goes in must be less than what gets burned. so, you shouldn't feel like crap, just make the change. :) Fruit is actually really high in natural sugars, which are difficult for a lot of peoples bodies to differentiate from processed/ refined sugars. That being said, logging everything and being completely open and honest with yourself is the best way to recognize your patterns and know where you need to tweak to get to your goal.
  • OkamiLavande
    OkamiLavande Posts: 336 Member
    You guys need to calm down. :/
    The answer is log your fruit.
    So we're all happy.
    No need to be rude or feel attacked.


    truth.

    however when people are being rude it is hard not to feel attacked. : )

    see now this might be mean but I am so out of this pity party. No one was mean, they told you the truth and you took it as mean, that's on you.

    Welcome to the internet where not everyone will agree with you and there is not specific font for sarcasm, rudeness, or being mean it's all on you and how you interpret it.

    thanks.

    The person who made one of the comments sent me a message and said sorry for being a di** - so clearly I am not just over reacting.

    I am new to forums so I had no idea people where so harsh.

    go and join the mean bus, if being horrible to people brings you so much joy I feel very sorry for you and the people around you.

    In my life I fill it with joy and happiness and nice people.

    you haven't seen harsh...

    and don't feel sorry for me I have more joy in my life than you know and if you think I am mean hold onto your hat, cause if you stay on the forums and react like this everytime people don't agree with you or sugar coat their responses you are gonna get flayed a lot...

    <<<<trounces off to join the rest of the mean people aka those who don't sugar coat stuff....much more informative place to be anyway.

    Yeah, I don't see where the rudeness or meanness is coming from. Especially from you. I've seen a lot of your posts and none of them have been *****y, rude, mean, or anything like that. You're just honest. I would rather have honesty about my habits than have sugar-coated "agree-with-me-or-else" logic.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    I wish I had never asked, and its a shame as I wont be posting for advice in the future.

    You didn't want advice. You wanted an "atta girl!". You got honest advice. Butthurt ensues.
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    I wish I had never asked, and its a shame as I wont be posting for advice in the future.

    You weren't looking for advice; you were looking for affirmation.
  • haymck123
    haymck123 Posts: 21 Member
    This is a useful thread.
    I have to log all my fruit intake as it's my favourite food group. In fact my diet pal and my other half say I eat too much fruit because of the sugars so I'm trying to cut it down a little. But it is good for you! It's a balance.
    But yes, log it. Log everything. And maybe stop being so defensive? People have taken the time to give you advice as they're trying to help.
    Peace
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    In addition to wanting an accurate record of calories eaten, which is useful for lots of reasons, including calculating what you are actually burning on weekly basis, I don't get why you wouldn't want to log foods just because you think they are healthy. I like to log vegetables for the accurate record, but also because I can look back and see when I was eating them vs. how I felt, whether I am eating as many servings as I like, and whether I'm eating as much variety as I like. If I've been doing zucchini & broccoli over and over, it's time to bring in some different things. So I don't see why one would not want to log fruits, even apart from them having a significant number of calories.