vent--There are too many skinny people at the gym
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I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Funny, I read the thread from the beginning, I somehow missed the "you're just jealous and humblebrags.
off to re-read.0 -
I used to be smart, but using a barbell turned me into a meathead.I don't like being called skinny...
I'm a meathead accountant.
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I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Right, though!? This is so weird. The topic creator obviously isn't that serious about enforcing weight restrictions on gym memberships, she is VENTING about an INSECURITY, and so many people attacked her for it. It makes no sense to me considering this is a website for weightloss and fitness - people act like what she said isn't a common mindset.
And people comparing the judgement of overweight people to those who are fit....riiiight, it's totally the same. Calling a woman a trophy wife is exactly the same as calling someone else a whale. I'm sure someone who's fit and thin would be oh so offended by such a scathing and judgmental remark.
There have been plenty of times where I've jokingly said something to a friend like, "Look at those skinny *****es", but I don't mean anything by that really, because I want to be like them. I'd never actually insult someone to their face or judge them for being fit, and I don't think the TC would either. For all the talk of humor and understanding people do on this site, people seem to take some things too seriously.0 -
I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Right, though!? This is so weird. The topic creator obviously isn't that serious about enforcing weight restrictions on gym memberships, she is VENTING about an INSECURITY, and so many people attacked her for it. It makes no sense to me considering this is a website for weightloss and fitness - people act like what she said isn't a common mindset.
And people comparing the judgement of overweight people to those who are fit....riiiight, it's totally the same. Calling a woman a trophy wife is exactly the same as calling someone else a whale. I'm sure someone who's fit and thin would be oh so offended by such a scathing and judgmental remark.
There have been plenty of times where I've jokingly said something to a friend like, "Look at those skinny *****es", but I don't mean anything by that really, because I want to be like them. I'd never actually insult someone to their face or judge them for being fit, and I don't think the TC would either. For all the talk of humor and understanding people do on this site, people seem to take some things too seriously.
Right though?
"Trophy wife is an informal term for a wife, usually young and attractive, who is regarded as a status symbol for the husband, who is often older and wealthy. The term trophy husband is the male equivalent.
Referring to a spouse as a trophy wife usually reflects negatively on the character or personality of the husband, and has a connotation of narcissism and desire to impress others, and that the husband would not be able to attract the sexual interest of the attractive woman but for his wealth or position. It can also be used to imply that the trophy wife in question has little personal merit besides her physical attractiveness, does very little of substance outside of remaining attractive, requires substantial costs for maintaining her appearance and is in some ways synonymous with the term "gold digger.""
"Meathead - A stupid person:"
That is so inoffensive. I'm mean, who wouldn't want to be called either of those things, as long as you are thin, who cares? Totally not the same thing as calling someone a whale, so it is perfectly ok.0 -
I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Right, though!? This is so weird. The topic creator obviously isn't that serious about enforcing weight restrictions on gym memberships, she is VENTING about an INSECURITY, and so many people attacked her for it. It makes no sense to me considering this is a website for weightloss and fitness - people act like what she said isn't a common mindset.
And people comparing the judgement of overweight people to those who are fit....riiiight, it's totally the same. Calling a woman a trophy wife is exactly the same as calling someone else a whale. I'm sure someone who's fit and thin would be oh so offended by such a scathing and judgmental remark.
There have been plenty of times where I've jokingly said something to a friend like, "Look at those skinny *****es", but I don't mean anything by that really, because I want to be like them. I'd never actually insult someone to their face or judge them for being fit, and I don't think the TC would either. For all the talk of humor and understanding people do on this site, people seem to take some things too seriously.
Right though?
"Trophy wife is an informal term for a wife, usually young and attractive, who is regarded as a status symbol for the husband, who is often older and wealthy. The term trophy husband is the male equivalent.
Referring to a spouse as a trophy wife usually reflects negatively on the character or personality of the husband, and has a connotation of narcissism and desire to impress others, and that the husband would not be able to attract the sexual interest of the attractive woman but for his wealth or position. It can also be used to imply that the trophy wife in question has little personal merit besides her physical attractiveness, does very little of substance outside of remaining attractive, requires substantial costs for maintaining her appearance and is in some ways synonymous with the term "gold digger.""
"Meathead - A stupid person:"
That is so inoffensive. I'm mean, who wouldn't want to be called either of those things, as long as you are thin, who cares?
I know what the words mean, friend, I just don't think they are *that* scathing as some are implying. I'd rather be called a trophy wife/meathead because someone is being envious of my body rather than be called a pig because someone is disgusted by it - but hey, that's just me.0 -
I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Right, though!? This is so weird. The topic creator obviously isn't that serious about enforcing weight restrictions on gym memberships, she is VENTING about an INSECURITY, and so many people attacked her for it. It makes no sense to me considering this is a website for weightloss and fitness - people act like what she said isn't a common mindset.
And people comparing the judgement of overweight people to those who are fit....riiiight, it's totally the same. Calling a woman a trophy wife is exactly the same as calling someone else a whale. I'm sure someone who's fit and thin would be oh so offended by such a scathing and judgmental remark.
There have been plenty of times where I've jokingly said something to a friend like, "Look at those skinny *****es", but I don't mean anything by that really, because I want to be like them. I'd never actually insult someone to their face or judge them for being fit, and I don't think the TC would either. For all the talk of humor and understanding people do on this site, people seem to take some things too seriously.
Right though?
"Trophy wife is an informal term for a wife, usually young and attractive, who is regarded as a status symbol for the husband, who is often older and wealthy. The term trophy husband is the male equivalent.
Referring to a spouse as a trophy wife usually reflects negatively on the character or personality of the husband, and has a connotation of narcissism and desire to impress others, and that the husband would not be able to attract the sexual interest of the attractive woman but for his wealth or position. It can also be used to imply that the trophy wife in question has little personal merit besides her physical attractiveness, does very little of substance outside of remaining attractive, requires substantial costs for maintaining her appearance and is in some ways synonymous with the term "gold digger.""
"Meathead - A stupid person:"
That is so inoffensive. I'm mean, who wouldn't want to be called either of those things, as long as you are thin, who cares?
I know what the words mean, friend, I just don't think they are *that* scathing as some are implying. I'd rather be called a trophy wife/meathead because someone is being envious of my body rather than be called a pig because someone is disgusted by it - but hey, that's just me.
So as long as it is done out of envy it is ok? Gotcha.
Personally, I'd rather not be called either. Silly me, I just thought it was wrong to shame anybody based on their looks regardless of reasoning.0 -
I know what the words mean, friend, I just don't think they are *that* scathing as some are implying. I'd rather be called a trophy wife/meathead because someone is being envious of my body rather than be called a pig because someone is disgusted by it - but hey, that's just me.
You're right. That's just you.
For me, and for many other people, being called names, names that might not offend you, would really offend them, which is why we don't do it.0 -
I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Right, though!? This is so weird. The topic creator obviously isn't that serious about enforcing weight restrictions on gym memberships, she is VENTING about an INSECURITY, and so many people attacked her for it. It makes no sense to me considering this is a website for weightloss and fitness - people act like what she said isn't a common mindset.
And people comparing the judgement of overweight people to those who are fit....riiiight, it's totally the same. Calling a woman a trophy wife is exactly the same as calling someone else a whale. I'm sure someone who's fit and thin would be oh so offended by such a scathing and judgmental remark.
There have been plenty of times where I've jokingly said something to a friend like, "Look at those skinny *****es", but I don't mean anything by that really, because I want to be like them. I'd never actually insult someone to their face or judge them for being fit, and I don't think the TC would either. For all the talk of humor and understanding people do on this site, people seem to take some things too seriously.
Right though?
"Trophy wife is an informal term for a wife, usually young and attractive, who is regarded as a status symbol for the husband, who is often older and wealthy. The term trophy husband is the male equivalent.
Referring to a spouse as a trophy wife usually reflects negatively on the character or personality of the husband, and has a connotation of narcissism and desire to impress others, and that the husband would not be able to attract the sexual interest of the attractive woman but for his wealth or position. It can also be used to imply that the trophy wife in question has little personal merit besides her physical attractiveness, does very little of substance outside of remaining attractive, requires substantial costs for maintaining her appearance and is in some ways synonymous with the term "gold digger.""
"Meathead - A stupid person:"
That is so inoffensive. I'm mean, who wouldn't want to be called either of those things, as long as you are thin, who cares?
I know what the words mean, friend, I just don't think they are *that* scathing as some are implying. I'd rather be called a trophy wife/meathead because someone is being envious of my body rather than be called a pig because someone is disgusted by it - but hey, that's just me.
So as long as it is done out of envy it is ok? Gotcha.
Personally, I'd rather not be called either. Silly me, I just thought it was wrong to shame anybody based on their looks regardless of reasoning.
Yeah. This isn't really a debate on an either or situation. As 3dogs said, shaming anyone based on their looks regardless of reason is just messed up.0 -
I know what the words mean, friend, I just don't think they are *that* scathing as some are implying. I'd rather be called a trophy wife/meathead because someone is being envious of my body rather than be called a pig because someone is disgusted by it - but hey, that's just me.
You're right. That's just you.
For me, and for many other people, being called names, names that might not offend you, would really offend them, which is why we don't do it.
I completely agree. I don't call people names either unless I'm upset or feel they deserve it, or I'm just joking. Pretty sure most people work in a similar format. I'm not saying it's okay to make offensive remarks about someones looks, I just think that people made a mountain out of a molehill here.0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?0 -
Well, the first one I tried, Blue Bell Sea Salt Caramel Ice Cream, had the little caramel truffles, but not really a lot of caramel flavoring, so I got the syrup. Then I just kept using it (only 27 calories in 10 grams, which is plenty to add to 100g of ice cream. I love my scale) The Kemp's frozen yogurt was good too, and a better protein to fat/carb ratio (for my preferences). Now I'm getting Edy's slow churned caramel delite. Reduced fat, not nonfat (gotta have some) creamy as all get out, and when I need to skimp because I'm almost out of calories, It has plenty of flavor so doesn't actually need the syrup.
And I was very disappointed when the first grocery store I went to had an ice cream freezer that was half empty, and the other half was getting a bit melty (I'm guessing they were in the middle of emptying it to fix it) so had to go to another, more expensive store. But I have a little bowl with my delicious dessert in it. (and all the walking I did gave me 200 more calories. I see string cheese in my future as well.)
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If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
Well said as usual. I'd be interested in the hierarchy of offensiveness according to Jof.
That said, the more I think about it, since we are talking about personal offences, I think I'd rather be called a whale than a trophy wife. At least as a whale, it is only a reflection of my outside appearance, which I can change. The term trophy wife means that people view me as having nothing to offer, no worth other than looks.0 -
This thing is going to roll isn't it.0
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This thing is going to roll isn't it.
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This thing is going to roll isn't it.
It looks like it is.
Many hours ago, I would have given long odds against it.0 -
Check out SmittenKitchen.com for a really easy recipe for salted caramel sauce.
Did you mean this one: http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2008/10/paris-a-deep-dark-salted-butter-caramel-sauce/ ?
Oh myyyyyyyy. 1633 calories per batch - I sure hope a little goes a long way.
To match the crappy Hershey's syrup I use, calorie wise, I'd need to get about 60 servings out of it (and that might change once I put the nutrition info for the ingredients I actually use, instead of using the generic ingredients) Looks delicious though. Definitely bookmarking it. 0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
I think there are differences and nuances in the realm of insults, sure I do.0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
I think there are differences and nuances in the realm of insults, sure I do.
I think that one might have been less about levels of offensiveness and more about applying your standards of offense to someone else.0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
Well said as usual. I'd be interested in the hierarchy of offensiveness according to Jof.
That said, the more I think about it, since we are talking about personal offences, I think I'd rather be called a whale than a trophy wife. At least as a whale, it is only a reflection of my outside appearance, which I can change. The term trophy wife means that people view me as having nothing to offer, no worth other than looks.
I know what you mean, but for this particular instance, there's nothing someone in gym can know about you from observation beyond your appearance anyway. So calling someone a trophy wife doesn't even really mean anything beyond "pretty" (in a more b****y way of course) because the observer can not possibly know the intricacies of the woman's personal life.
That's why I don't see it as a harsh insult in this circumstance - and it's not like a specific person was outed by name as being a trophy wife. But anyway, I've probably exhausted this conversation. My main point is just that people are insecure and they say things without meaning them all the time - so the vitriol directed towards TC seemed excessive, but eh.0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
Well said as usual. I'd be interested in the hierarchy of offensiveness according to Jof.
That said, the more I think about it, since we are talking about personal offences, I think I'd rather be called a whale than a trophy wife. At least as a whale, it is only a reflection of my outside appearance, which I can change. The term trophy wife means that people view me as having nothing to offer, no worth other than looks.
I know what you mean, but for this particular instance, there's nothing someone in gym can know about you from observation beyond your appearance anyway. So calling someone a trophy wife doesn't even really mean anything beyond "pretty" (in a more b****y way of course) because the observer can not possibly know the intricacies of the woman's personal life.
That's why I don't see it as a harsh insult in this circumstance - and it's not like a specific person was outed by name as being a trophy wife. But anyway, I've probably exhausted this conversation. My main point is just that people are insecure and they say things without meaning them all the time - so the vitriol directed towards TC seemed excessive, but eh.
Trophy wife doesn't just imply pretty as I pointed of above. That is the entire point.
I just don't see why it is ok to call someone derogatory name based on their looks just because they aren't overweight. If someone had posted about "whales" in the gym, it is still basing on someone's looks without knowing the intricacies of their personal life.0 -
ROLL!
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If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
Well said as usual. I'd be interested in the hierarchy of offensiveness according to Jof.
That said, the more I think about it, since we are talking about personal offences, I think I'd rather be called a whale than a trophy wife. At least as a whale, it is only a reflection of my outside appearance, which I can change. The term trophy wife means that people view me as having nothing to offer, no worth other than looks.
I know what you mean, but for this particular instance, there's nothing someone in gym can know about you from observation beyond your appearance anyway. So calling someone a trophy wife doesn't even really mean anything beyond "pretty" (in a more b****y way of course) because the observer can not possibly know the intricacies of the woman's personal life.
That's why I don't see it as a harsh insult in this circumstance - and it's not like a specific person was outed by name as being a trophy wife. But anyway, I've probably exhausted this conversation. My main point is just that people are insecure and they say things without meaning them all the time - so the vitriol directed towards TC seemed excessive, but eh.
Insults to the mind and person cut deeper for me than to physicality. But, with that said, I do agree that her post was innocuous in it being generalized. She did not attack an individual. I found it to be more about her insecurity. Something that can be remedied with an understanding approach. People were responding in an oversensitive way, and caused the topic to spiral into many more emotional directions.
The majority response was my knee-jerk reaction as well. But, when I saw the pile on it did cause me to reflect on it instead.0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
Well said as usual. I'd be interested in the hierarchy of offensiveness according to Jof.
That said, the more I think about it, since we are talking about personal offences, I think I'd rather be called a whale than a trophy wife. At least as a whale, it is only a reflection of my outside appearance, which I can change. The term trophy wife means that people view me as having nothing to offer, no worth other than looks.
I know what you mean, but for this particular instance, there's nothing someone in gym can know about you from observation beyond your appearance anyway. So calling someone a trophy wife doesn't even really mean anything beyond "pretty" (in a more b****y way of course) because the observer can not possibly know the intricacies of the woman's personal life.
That's why I don't see it as a harsh insult in this circumstance - and it's not like a specific person was outed by name as being a trophy wife. But anyway, I've probably exhausted this conversation. My main point is just that people are insecure and they say things without meaning them all the time - so the vitriol directed towards TC seemed excessive, but eh.
Insults to the mind and person cut deeper for me than to physicality. But, with that said, I do agree that her post was innocuous in it being generalized. She did not attack an individual. I found it to be more about her insecurity. Something that can be remedied with an understanding approach. People were responding in an oversensitive way, and caused the topic to spiral into many more emotional directions.
Exactly my point, I completely agree, thank you! SO glad someone understood what I was getting at.0 -
If only the test for offensiveness was what personally offended me and only me. I suppose I could also create a hierarchy of offensiveness for everyone to use and then expect everyone else to adhere to it...
...but that would just be silly, right?
Well said as usual. I'd be interested in the hierarchy of offensiveness according to Jof.
That said, the more I think about it, since we are talking about personal offences, I think I'd rather be called a whale than a trophy wife. At least as a whale, it is only a reflection of my outside appearance, which I can change. The term trophy wife means that people view me as having nothing to offer, no worth other than looks.
I know what you mean, but for this particular instance, there's nothing someone in gym can know about you from observation beyond your appearance anyway. So calling someone a trophy wife doesn't even really mean anything beyond "pretty" (in a more b****y way of course) because the observer can not possibly know the intricacies of the woman's personal life.
That's why I don't see it as a harsh insult in this circumstance - and it's not like a specific person was outed by name as being a trophy wife. But anyway, I've probably exhausted this conversation. My main point is just that people are insecure and they say things without meaning them all the time - so the vitriol directed towards TC seemed excessive, but eh.
Insults to the mind and person cut deeper for me than to physicality. But, with that said, I do agree that her post was innocuous in it being generalized. She did not attack an individual. I found it to be more about her insecurity. Something that can be remedied with an understanding approach. People were responding in an oversensitive way, and caused the topic to spiral into many more emotional directions.
Exactly my point, I completely agree, thank you! SO glad someone understood what I was getting at.
I understand.
I just disagree. I presume I'm allowed to disagree without one assuming I don't understand.0 -
The majority response was my knee-jerk reaction as well, but when I saw the pile on it caused me to reflect more.0
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The majority response was my knee-jerk reaction as well, but when I saw the pile on it caused me to reflect more.
I'm not fond of letting the actions of others sway me from my own personal reactions. That seems awfully close to being contrary for the sake of going against the grain, tbh.0 -
The majority response was my knee-jerk reaction as well, but when I saw the pile on it caused me to reflect more.
I'm not fond of letting the actions of others sway me from my own personal reactions. That seems awfully close to being contrary for the sake of going against the grain, tbh.
Lol, because you are never contrary.
And no. It causes me to think about it more deeply instead of joking it off. The first point was made. So, I think.0 -
This post made me face palm.
"Skinny people" have just as much right to go to ANY GYM that they want to, the same as with overweight people.
Don't thin shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do you care as to what they look like? It's not your business what the other people look like.
Just focus on yourself and don't care about other's looks.0 -
I actually only hate it when the gym is filled with people who use MFP. The place where "would you screw the person who posted above you" threads are a-ok, but "I feel insecure going to the gym" threads are followed by eighteen pages of "you're just jealous" posts and humblebrags.
By comparison, meathead and trophy wife are fairly innocuous.
Actually those threads all all suck too. But if you post in there complaining about it people would just rate you. Can't stop an avalanche by shaking your fist at it.0 -
If I don't see people saying "people are judging me at the gym" I see "I'm judging people at the gym"! Where does it end?0
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