Fat people ambassador
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You don't need to advocate for me, I can do that on my own.
I am not the victim you are making me out to be.
You are perpetuating the problem.
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You have my support, Ambassador
I wish I could see all these born skinny smart *kitten* if they had my metabolism. Half of them would be beyond morbidly obese, no disability needed. I envy the genes but they have no right to say anything.
Fat or thin is not genetic.
Unless a medical condition it is a choice!
What medical conditions force a person to consume above their TDEE?
And what percentage of the overweight to obese are inflicted with said conditions that force them to consume above their TDEE?
Prader-Wili would probably be the closest - you always feel like you're starving so it would be incredibly difficult not to over eat.
Another possibility for quasi-genetically obese (at least in appearance) would be something like massive abdominal tumors. Of course, that isn't fat.
The onset of a disease that lowers your metabolism can cause you to overeat simply because you don't realize you have a problem and need to reduce your intake to compensate. Obviously once you figure it out, you can correct for it.
Other than that ... can't think of anything.
% of general population with these issues? Who knows. Might not even be over 1%.0 -
There are a few, and someone with PCOS will have a very difficult time losing without changing lifestyle to increase activity significantly which without that otherwise the needed severe dieting often results in nutritional and hunger issues.
My partner has PCOS (diagnosed officially not a google search) and an underactive thyroid (again diagnosed and managed by medication) and shes lost weight just as easily as me using MFP and working from her BMR adding her lifestyle and exercise kcals alongside a normal healthy diet. Its easier for me to lose weight obviously but she sticks with the plan day in day out and reaps the rewards, i'm proud of her
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Ditch the excuses and stop looking at as fat vs skinny, as if that's the only two things a person can be.
This.
Also:I'm just gonna say this.
The worst thing you can do when trying to lose weight is be hyper-sensitive about things. You're gonna get comments you hate. You're gonna read things you don't like. You're going to hate other people and yourself on a regular basis.
If you get fired up about something, good, you're supposed to. But ranting is a waste of energy. Save it for the gym.
^^That.
I don't need a freaking ambassador. I don't need someone to hold my hand and I don't need someone to motivate me. I am my own person, I was the hand that fed me and now I'm the one undoing my mistakes.
If someone wants to associate my body with their negative thoughts, so be it. It has no bearing on my life.
The best day of my weight loss happened when I started to talk clinically about my weight. Not "oh my god I'm so fat" or "ugh she has it easier!". Those words were replaced with things like "lifting weights helps retain LBM" and "eating at a 500 calorie deficit should produce a one pound loss each week". Notice the difference. One is full of feelings and placing my self worth on being fat. The other approaches the problem in a way that fixes it without needing to be self harming.
Fat doesn't make me who I am. I am FIXING it. And if someone can't understand that, I don't need them in my life anyway.
You're my 'hero of the day'...I love this! I feel your freakin' power in your words!0 -
I have decided to become a self-proclaimed 'Fat People Ambassador'. The reason? Some things just frikkin gets to me. I might be a little sensitive, but here follows my explanation...
1. I saw an advert for a weight loss product. There was an outline of a skinny person filled with veggies and an outline of a fat person filled with hamburgers and fries etc. NEWS FLASH***** Not all people are fat because they eat to much. There are hormone problems etc. etc etc. And those who DO eat too much, might not know that they are OR have emotional issues to deal with that other people no nothing about! Ads like these are degrading, uninformed and miss-leading.
2. Skinny people whom have never had a weight issue, should stop pretending to know what us fatties go through on a daily basis PLUS.... Why do skinny people think that fat people are stupid. NEWS FLASH***** I have an IQ of 126 - which is above average. Yes, I am an under-archiever because of some emotional stuff AND weight stopping me from doing what I really am capable of. The fat did not cover my brain though and it did not make me stupid. Guilty skinnies, wake up!
3. I HATE the pittiful glances I sometimes get from people. NEWS FLASH**** I am overweight, not disabled. I have many disabled people in my life, including my mom. We are all people.... Able-bodied, disabled, skinny, fat. IT DOES NOT DEFINE YOU!!!!!!
4. I recently read a VERY disturbing article by KAI that was on Biggest Loser. I always knew it was a crap show, but I am amazed that the trainers are that mean and causing contestants to dehydrate and excersie through injuries. I thought that Jillian Michaels, that used to be fat, would actually be more understanding of what fat people are going though... (She was not on the show when KAI was a contestant, but sure she followed in BOB's footsteps.) - I apologize for this comment if Jillian turns out to be the saint and saviour of fat people on Biggest Loser.
I am dedicating my time - from now on - to destroy myths abouth fat people. I have a mirror, thanks... I know what I look like. I have PCOS and Insulin Resistance and I have already managed to lose 50+ pounds. I am smart. I am funny (sarcastic). I know my current weight is unhealty and I am busy losing it.
Fat People do not need an ambassador. I know its frustrating, People can be judgmental, and Fat discrimination is one of the only acceptable discrimination left. The simple truth is that it is up to the individual to make changes in their lives to become more healthy and it is possible under most circumstances. NO excuses. I have multiple Sclerosis. I have had it 22 years. Exercise is a challenge. I have to force myself to do the things I want to do never mind the harder things. I gained weight having my kids (in my 30's) I took the weight off. I am now over 40. I suffer from fatigue, pain and One of the most difficult challenge is I have to take Prednisone. (look it up it causes weight gain) I have to take 1000 MG IV over 15 minutes. Some times I take it in pill form. I have so many of the challenges I hear people using as excuses. Fat people do not need to be vied as victims. They don't need spokes people (who do exist and are most often a person struggling themselves) People with emotional problems need help and need t find a different coping mechanism. People need to feel empowered. Know that if you want it bad enough you will get there. If I can do it any one can.
Says the woman who has walked through all the above difficulties and still managed to shed over 200 pounds, and has maintained that loss long term!
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You have my support, Ambassador
I wish I could see all these born skinny smart *kitten* if they had my metabolism. Half of them would be beyond morbidly obese, no disability needed. I envy the genes but they have no right to say anything.
Fat or thin is not genetic.
Unless a medical condition it is a choice!
What medical conditions force a person to consume above their TDEE?
And what percentage of the overweight to obese are inflicted with said conditions that force them to consume above their TDEE?
What I meant was - you might be skinny, fat or obese either because of a medical condition or else by choice -
But there is no medical condition that forces you to consume above your TDEE.
There are medical conditions that affect your metabolism, thus lowering your TDEE.
You chose to either approach those changes one of two ways:
A. Consume less calories to accommodate your lowered TDEE due to metabolic slow down.
B. Eat exact the same way you did prior to to the onset of your medical issue, and gain.
Some people who run into conditions like PCOS, for example, do not gain weight. They adjust their eating accordingly. But the majority of people who gain weight due to a medical condition do so because they usually don't realize that their body requires less calories, and thus they continue to eat as "normal". Then they gain weight and are eventually diagnosed. The problem is that it seems totally unfair that they'll have to work harder to maintain their previous weight, and instead they just eat above their new TDEE and say "the disease made me fat".
The disease didn't make you fat. The disease put you in a position where it became easier for you to make yourself fat.
Good point, Never considered it from that perspective - some new to read tonight!0 -
In......this will be fun. :happy:0
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Please don't be my ambassador- I do that on my own. I really don't like to play the victim card, I've found that it just makes me less eager to change the bad things about me.0
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Here's your sword and your torch... off you go..0
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Let me be honest and tell you a bit about myself, I started my journey in November 2012....
I was fat - 321lb at the beginning of this journey
I was lazy - sat at the laptop all day and worked sitting down all evening
I was depressed - I hated what I saw in the mirror
I spouted the exact same lines as you've just typed, only I'd say it to anyone crazy enough to listen to me, I didn't just type it on a website (this is not to criticize what you've done)
I turned to food because it was always there for me (I live a 2 minute walk away from a large Morrisons store) - I was a stereotypical fatty, I didn't exercise because I hated the idea of thin people watching me sweat, puff and pant at the gym.
Today 18th July 2014....
I am thinner than I've ever been (as an adult) - 165lb
I spend too much time at the gym (according to my family) - I go 6 days a week, and sometimes more than once a day
I'm nicknamed the Duracell Bunny - because I'm always on the go, always happy and am always looking for something to do
I find it extremely patronising when people spout on about how fatties get a raw deal - there are NHS Weight Management programs for us fatties - they are free and if you want to join one, go see a doctor, they are free too (here in the UK) - what have the skinnies got to help them.... not all skinnies are skinny because they are happy, healthy and energetic, a friend of mine died of Anorexia about 10 years ago (everyone thought she was happy and just small framed, no she was killing herself)
I turn to exercise to make me feel better and it usually does, food used to make me full, feel sick and then feel hatred for getting fatter and fatter.
Fatties and skinnies all have their own issues - now I weigh almost half of my starting weight I have developed issues, I now have lower back and hip problems and I take daily medication, I never had to do that when I was 321lb: I now have baggy skin on my torso, arms, legs and chin; my butt (which was the only slim part of my body) is none existant - I have to sit on a cushion all the time.
Basically being fat has ruined my body and now I am trying to get slim and right some of the wrongs I did to myself - please don't turn your weight loss journey into a fight against Them & Us - make it about you, concentrate on getting yourself where you want to be.... We're all fighting a fight, we just have different motivations and different destinations.
By worrying about your journey and doing something about your weight you are proving that fatties don't need sympathy or help, you are proving that you don't envy skinnies and you are proving you have over come whatever made you put on weight in the first place....
Now that is a worthy cause in my former fatty point of view xXx
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lol...You have my support, Ambassador
I wish I could see all these born skinny smart *kitten* if they had my metabolism. Half of them would be beyond morbidly obese, no disability needed. I envy the genes but they have no right to say anything.
So which of us are "born skinny" people?
Can you tell?
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Ambassadors generally have some knowledge of social graces0
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Fighting perceived stereotypes with anger and stereotypes?
Right out of Victimology 101.
Saved me from typing.
You will never represent me.
Agreed. I am not "naturally" skinny and have my own struggles. I ditched the excuses, accepted personal accountability and lost weight. I will count on myself without the aid of an ambassador. And picking on "naturally skinny" people is doing the same thing you accuse them of doing to you. Just sayin'0 -
No thanks.0
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You have my support, Ambassador
I wish I could see all these born skinny smart *kitten* if they had my metabolism. Half of them would be beyond morbidly obese, no disability needed. I envy the genes but they have no right to say anything.
You keep telling yourself that. Any excuse will do for failure. On the other hand, success takes hard work and personal responsibility, as well as the mindset to weather difficulty and setbacks. It's your path and your life.0 -
To the OP
Build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
Worry about yourself and your life, and goals, I don't think Fat people are looking for an ambassador, president or dictator.0 -
Ambassadors generally have some knowledge of social graces
And take a stand when debatable arguments are put forward.0 -
Not all fat people eat too much? lol
This thread is going to go to some amazing places.0 -
You have my support, Ambassador
I wish I could see all these born skinny smart *kitten* if they had my metabolism. Half of them would be beyond morbidly obese, no disability needed. I envy the genes but they have no right to say anything.
You keep telling yourself that. Any excuse will do for failure. On the other hand, success takes hard work and personal responsibility, as well as the mindset to weather difficulty and setbacks. It's your path and your life.
I don't need any ambassador to feed me excuses as to why I'm fat. I worked hard to be fat so now its only fair I work hard to be healthy.0 -
Also, for someone who gets their knickers in this big of a twist over not treating people equally, you certainly were doing a pretty good job at demeaning those who are "naturally thin." They're people, too, and they have their own struggles. Besides, how do you distinguish? I triple dog dare you to pick one out of this bunch. Dare. You.0
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Also, for someone who gets their knickers in this big of a twist over not treating people equally, you certainly were doing a pretty good job at demeaning those who are "naturally thin." They're people, too, and they have their own struggles. Besides, how do you distinguish? I triple dog dare you to pick one out of this bunch. Dare. You.
KAWABUNGA DUDE!0 -
Unless you were out taking a walk while you typed this, the time you wasted on your rant could have been used better IMHO.
Didn't need an ambassador when I was fat, I certainly don't need one now.
Focus on yourself and not others or other's opinions. So much wasted energy that could be channeled into something positive.
While you learn to do that, I will focus on the rack of ribs I'm going to eat tonight.
Congrats on your IQ btw, hope it helps you sleep at night.0 -
You're making fat people sound like they're all very bitter and angry when I know that's not true. That's not going to help anything, or anyone. I'm sorry you have had a hard time and are angry, but please do not perpetuate that stereotype. Skinny people don't have it together either; no group of people completely has their *kitten* together.0
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Ummm... An IQ of 126 wasn't sufficient enough to tell you that you need to consume less calories in order to benefit your life?
IQ tests really are over-rated.
But apparently it DOES enable one to be a bit psychic... They know the skinny people haven't had weight issues and don't understand. (Yeah, I've actually had two "friends" make remarks to me about that...totally dismissing that I have counted calories, boned up on good nutrition facts, AND gotten up extra early nearly every morning to work out the past couple of years.)
That IQ also apparently allows one to "read" a pitiful look. Huh? I have friends of every flavor, color and stripe (including different body shapes), and I'd best learn what a pitiful look "looks like" so that my friends don't act, think or talk about me this way. Oh wait, I guess I wouldn't consider them friends if they did...
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When I was fat (for much of my life, from 13-20 190-210, lost 85 lbs when I was 21... then up and down for 10 years to now - the last time, I think) I was also a unique snowflake who defied the laws of thermodynamics. I hardly ate ANYTHING and I just COULDN'T lose weight, because "genetics" and because "metabolism."
JK SARCASM, I was fat because I have binge eating disorder and was lazy.
I was able to overcome BED, I haven't binged in 8 months -the longest stretch in my entire life, wuz up- stop making excuses for yourself and other people OP. Anyone who's been where you are and come to where I am knows it's 100% BS.0 -
I agree with everything you said. But most of us are fat because of what we eat. So really it's something that's our problem. Not others. I don't think Pete should be mean but could it be our self consciousness be causing us to be too sensitive and defensive. I wasn't that upset about being fat but now that I'm losing weight, I am really bothered by it. We need to focus on the positive and not worry about others.0
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Ummm... An IQ of 126 wasn't sufficient enough to tell you that you need to consume less calories in order to benefit your life?
IQ tests really are over-rated.
But apparently it DOES enable one to be a bit psychic... They know the skinny people haven't had weight issues and don't understand. (Yeah, I've actually had two "friends" make remarks to me about that...totally dismissing that I have counted calories, boned up on good nutrition facts, AND gotten up extra early nearly every morning to work out the past couple of years.)
That IQ also apparently allows one to "read" a pitiful look. Huh? I have friends of every flavor, color and stripe (including different body shapes), and I'd best learn what a pitiful look "looks like" so that my friends don't act, think or talk about me this way. Oh wait, I guess I wouldn't consider them friends if they did...
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Maybe if I had an IQ of 126 I could know everything about everyone just by looking at them. Does MENSA know about this?0 -
I just have one question. Where is the OP?
For an "Ambassador" she is doing a horrible job keeping up with her own thread let alone keeping up with all the "fat" people she is supposedly representing.0
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