Does the term "cutting" bother you?
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And yes, lets not even get onto salad tossers.........my word!!! Only so much I can take on a Saturday morning,,,,,,,0
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"Cutting" also has some negative associations. Every time I read a post which uses "cutting" I immediately think the person is suicidal. Maybe it's just me?
Wouldn't something like "curbing" or "trimming" or "thinning" be just as good?
They wouldn't be just as good because those aren't industry established terms. I wouldn't change what I say because I'm not a fan of catering to the irrational preferences of other people. I don't want to constantly change my vocabulary just because someone out there might have a negative association with a word. When did people become so damned fragile?0 -
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I didn't read the whole thread. I guess I just cut to the chase.
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Lol at the dude on the far left who seems to be folding his laundry.
Hahaha!
On the real though, who choreographs these manstripper dances? If some dude came at me in a club with these moves I would think they were unhinged. Or on meth.0 -
I'm not insisting. I'm challenging. You can keep on doing whatever you want. I just wrote a post asking a yes or no question and am having a conversation with responders.
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You know what's cool. A cutting board with an integrated scale.
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Is that real?EvgeniZyntx wrote: »You know what's cool. A cutting board with an integrated scale.
I want it!
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »You know what's cool. A cutting board with an integrated scale.
Want.
<insert 'take my money meme' here>0 -
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christinev297 wrote: »Did you ever stop to think that people who aren't familiar with mental illness wouldn't even have the slightest clue what cutting means in the context you're talking about??
Yes.0 -
FoCoAlphaNerd wrote: »Nah, what bothers me is people going out of their way to take offense at things that aren't meant to be offensive in the slightest. Way more trouble is caused by irate, oversensitive people looking to be offended than the use of the word "cutting" which was popular in this sense way before it became a popular piece for bad journalists to show false sympathy over.
So something isn't offensive as long as it wasn't intended to be offensive? How does one know what someone else's intentions are if you don't explicitly communicate them? Are you a telepath?0 -
sweetdixie92 wrote: »
Maybe if more people begin referring to cutting calories as cutting, it will become a more positive term, right? Or maybe if we put the same effort into helping those who do self-harm as we do into nitpicking terms, we eventually won't automatically associate it with that.
A word is a word. Cutting in itself is not a bad thing.
True. But I'm looking at the now, not the future. "Cutting" is not a bad thing, in your opinion, but is it the best thing?0 -
So something isn't offensive as long as it wasn't intended to be offensive? How does one know what someone else's intentions are if you don't explicitly communicate them? Are you a telepath?
Context. Why are you purposely ignoring this obvious point that has been hand fed to you by most of the responders already?0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »
But really, WTF is the point of coming onto a health and fitness site and picking apart terms that are used?
To discuss topics relating to health and fitness. I mean what do you think a forum is for?0 -
Context. Why are you purposely ignoring this obvious point that has been hand fed to you by most of the responders already?
Thank you for supporting my side. Including context is the answer. I'm not ignoring others' points. I'm fully aware of what "cutting" is intended to mean within the fitness community. But context can be difficult for people to cue into for a variety of reasons. Which is why it should be explicitly stated. For example:
"Cutting calories"
Calories gives the word cutting context.0 -
So something isn't offensive as long as it wasn't intended to be offensive? How does one know what someone else's intentions are if you don't explicitly communicate them? Are you a telepath?
Well, the reverse is how is someone supposed to anticipate how everyone else might interpret something, especially if it's not, in your view, reasonable.
Sometimes it seems like people go out of their way to claim offense just to get some kind of moral high ground in the discussion. I'm not saying I've never done it, but on the whole I don't think it's helpful, and in particular I think it's best to assume that someone else is not intending to offend when it could easily be innocent.0 -
Thank you for supporting my side. Including context is the answer. I'm not ignoring others' points. I'm fully aware of what "cutting" is intended to mean within the fitness community. But context can be difficult for people to cue into for a variety of reasons. Which is why it should be explicitly stated. For example:
"Cutting calories"
Calories gives the word cutting context.
I'm not sure it does mean simply "cutting calories." It's more like getting cut, as someone else said. Besides if a shorter form works people usually like it. Why not insist that the self-harm usage be made more explicit?
Anyway, context is usually obvious. In that this is MFP, the usual context is fitness.
If you want to say "cutting calories" or make up a new term and see if it catches on, go for it!0 -
Cutting is a word I'd never use, but I would think there are many, possibly silly, alternatives:
- Slimming
- Thinning
- Leaning
- Slenderizing
- Reducing (sounds like a sauce)
- Defatting (good one from earlier in this thread)
Good luck, fat reducers!
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Reducing is a common one from years ago, isn't it? Sounds kind of '50s to me.0
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Sorry about the spelling mistake i made in my last post i obviously meant self harming not shelf harming. Thank you to the person that pointed it out and hopefully there have been none made in this one.
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Thank you for supporting my side. Including context is the answer. I'm not ignoring others' points. I'm fully aware of what "cutting" is intended to mean within the fitness community. But context can be difficult for people to cue into for a variety of reasons. Which is why it should be explicitly stated. For example:
"Cutting calories"
Calories gives the word cutting context.
The fact the word is used on a fitness website gives it it's context.
You basically want people to assume that others who read their posts might be offended, so to treat them like a three year old and explicitly state every single term that "may" cause offense by being momentarily misread. Yeah. No. I'll assume that the people reading have enough common sense to work out what I am saying or ask if they are not sure.
This is all about you - stop trying to change a term that has been used for decades because you don't like it.
I'm cutting right now.0 -
So something isn't offensive as long as it wasn't intended to be offensive? How does one know what someone else's intentions are if you don't explicitly communicate them? Are you a telepath?
This applies to you too. You are so set on it being negative that how do you know it'd be taken negatively? Are YOU a telepath?
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Doesn't bother me when I see it used here, because I know the context:
reducing calories, reducing body fat, etc.
Also, I'm not mentally ill to the point of harming myself, so I wouldn't think of it in that context,
nor would it be a "trigger" to cause me to harm myself. (Other people's actions don't cause mine
anyway, I choose to do what I do.)0 -
Thank you for supporting my side. Including context is the answer. I'm not ignoring others' points. I'm fully aware of what "cutting" is intended to mean within the fitness community. But context can be difficult for people to cue into for a variety of reasons. Which is why it should be explicitly stated. For example:
"Cutting calories"
Calories gives the word cutting context.
You are failing to account for actual conversation. How often do you walk up to someone, say one sentence, and leave? How often do you only read one sentence of a forum or blog post?
Generally if you say one sentence to someone, you include all needed information in that one sentence. No one who has any concept of language is going to just say " I am cutting" and leave the conversation.
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