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  • MelissaPhippsFeagins
    MelissaPhippsFeagins Posts: 8,063 Member
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    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)[/quote]

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that. [/quote]

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)[/quote]

    Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse). [/quote]

    Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.[/quote]

    I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point. [/quote]

    Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
    I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
    I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.[/quote]

    Sorry to say, I find next to nothing here that entertains me. I walk in the malls because it's too hot to walk outside, and I enjoy walking. There are some nice traditional restaurants, if you like that kind of thing. It seems to me that women here occupy a lot of their time with shopping, which I don't enjoy.

    As peleroja mentioned, the lady in question might be able to work, but that will require a lot of hoop-jumping. Coming for her husband's job means she will be on an "accompanying dependent" visa, not on a working visa. If she wants to work, she would have to find a job that would be willing to hire her, start the visa process, then exit and re-enter the country with her new visa. As mentioned, women don't usually have to cover themselves within their compounds, but they do have to when they exit them.
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    I would not do well there. [/quote]

    I remember getting a letter from Brother 3 during the 1st Gulf War. He was stationed in Saudi Arabia prior to the invasion of Kuwait. "One of our nurses nearly got herself arrested today for forgetting to cover herself. She reminds me of you." I took that as a warning to never visit. I would totally forget some really important rule.

  • crosbylee
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    I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.
  • quiksylver296
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    crosbylee wrote: »
    I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.

    DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

    ETA: It has really given me a mental jumpstart. I've been spot on with eating and exercise and I'm down 4.6 pounds in 8 days...
  • MissKalhan
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    peleroja wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)

    Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).

    Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.

    See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in. :)

    I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go! :)

    Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.

    Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.

    My Great Aunt used to do this! She was so far up that she was nursing the King (I think they're referred to as King? @susieq_1994??) for a few years before he passed.
  • Susieq_1994
    Susieq_1994 Posts: 5,361 Member
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    MissKalhan wrote: »
    peleroja wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)

    Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).

    Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.

    See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in. :)

    I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go! :)

    Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.

    Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.

    My Great Aunt used to do this! She was so far up that she was nursing the King (I think they're referred to as King? @susieq_1994??) for a few years before he passed.

    Yes, Saudi Arabia is a kingdom and we have a king. :)
  • MissKalhan
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    MissKalhan wrote: »
    peleroja wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)

    Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).

    Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.

    See, I knew you really needed Susie to weigh in. :)

    I am sure I exaggerated her comment to me...but I interpreted it as it wasn't safe for me to go! :)

    Thanks for the information both of you. She has made up her mind, but I will still give her my advice (I have known this girl her entire life - she is like a daughter to me) I really have a feeling that she will try to come home with or without her husband after a few months. She is going to hate it.

    Perhaps she should look into nursing in Saudi Arabia if the place they'll be living has its own medical facilities. I have a friend who worked there for a couple years as a nurse in a facility for expats in a compound and ended up rather enjoying it - she was there as a single woman so didn't get to go out too much, but she worked with other Westerners in an English-speaking clinic and lived in a big compound with a pool, shopping, etc etc on site so had everything she needed nearby and didn't have to cover day-to-day. And I think it was pretty financially lucrative, to boot.

    My Great Aunt used to do this! She was so far up that she was nursing the King (I think they're referred to as King? @susieq_1994??) for a few years before he passed.

    Yes, Saudi Arabia is a kingdom and we have a king. :)

    Yay! I remember things sometimes ;) lol
  • KylerJaye
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    crosbylee wrote: »
    I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.

    DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

    ETA: It has really given me a mental jumpstart. I've been spot on with eating and exercise and I'm down 4.6 pounds in 8 days...

    that's awesome!!!!
  • rungirl1973
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    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)

    That's interesting. I do know that the husband of a friend of mine did the same (3 year job in Saudi Arabia). My friend did not accompany him. The money was too good for him to turn down the opportunity and they were able to tuck away a pretty sizable nest egg during those 3 years.
  • rungirl1973
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    I ad match and coupon every week. There are only a handful of things I will pay full price for. Hence the stock pile, that way I never pay full price by having enough to last me the sale cycles.

    Just in case you don't get into other threads on here wanted to let you know that there is now a limited edition Pumpkin Pie Quest Bar.

    I bought a box at GNC today & they're 220 calories.

    I bought a box on Amazon a couple days ago. They should be here soon!!!

    I laughed when the lady at GNC told me they were shipped in a special box & she said they had no idea what was in the box. She said on the box it said open this box & get terminated. Quest is serious about their limited edition products.

    Apparently some posters in another thread said Quest changed their recipe & the bars don't taste the same. I must have some of the old bars, because I haven't noticed a taste change yet. Then again the only two bars I usually eat are Cookie Dough & White Chocolate Raspberry.

    I work in 3rd party logistics. One of our customers is Apple. The amount of security around the new iPhones shipped to our buildings before they're released is CRAZY!

    I remember a colleague worked for a company that shipped out the Harry Potter books as they were released, too. Crazy amount of security around that, too.
  • rungirl1973
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    GUYS, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB!

    I have a phone interview on Friday, late morning. Eep!

    Yay!! Good luck!!
  • bkhamill
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    raymax4 wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    TigerNY128 wrote: »
    There seem to be a few of us that lift on here...I'm thinking of starting a lifting thread in the batcave so we can share tips, goals, accomplishments, stories...anyone interested in that??

    Yes!!!
    bkhamill wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    I didn't say it quite that way! But yes, there is a travel warning for Americans and it isn't the safest place for non-Muslims--and definitely not somewhere an independent woman would want to live for any period of time.
    bkhamill wrote: »
    pofoster21 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    MissKalhan wrote: »
    kelly_c_77 wrote: »
    bkhamill wrote: »
    So here I am in the ER with my 15 yo. I took him to urgent care thinking bronchitis or pneumonia. They gave him a breathing treatment (duoneb and accuneb together, which I think was the problem. He needed one or the other, I think. I don't even think the NP knows she ordered it that way.) and ended up calling EMS to bring him here. Chest xray is clear, so not pneumonia. Blood pressure is coming back down. Tachycardia is over. Waiting for blood test to see what the white blood count is. I trust Dr. Gerlock, the ER doc, but this is nerve wrecking.
    On the plus side, Son2 is complaining about being hungry. Always a good sign.

    I'm sorry you went through all that! And glad everything is alright. The mistakes some doctors make are nerve-wracking. When I was 14, I got appendicitis and had to have an appendectomy (not sure about that spelling). The doctor in charge of my case talked us through it and mentioned that there would be three incisions, and their locations, etc.

    Fast forward to me coming out of the recovery room, and my mom seeing a completely random taped up fourth incision up near my HEART. Cue total confusion.

    My mom: "WHY does she have an incision there?! She was only going in for an appendectomy!"
    Nurse: "Ummm... Maybe they made an incision there on accident?"
    Mom: "ON ACCIDENT?!?!?!?!?!?"

    :D

    When I had my first child I ended up with an emergency C-section and a couple weeks later when we got the detailed bill in the mail, it had a line that said "Incidental Appendectomy" I asked what that meant and that is when I found out I no longer had my Appendix! They took it out and did not even tell me!!

    What in the world?!

    I second this. How the heck did they get away with that?!

    It was 32 years ago. It was explained to me that if they were in the abdomen for other surgery and could clearly see the appendix they take them out, to prevent issues with it later on. It was a standard procedure, but my issue was that they did not even tell me!

    That's alarming!

    You'd think they might have mentioned while they were prepping you for the C-section that, oh by the way, while we're in there we'll take out that pesky appendix... or even afterward, as part of the "wound care" spiel.

    "Congrats on your new baby! By the way, we may have "incidentally" removed an extra organ or two. You didn't need them anyway."

    Hey Susie... I have a random question (which may lead to more) You live in Saudi Arabia right? Do you feel that Americans working there are in any danger of any kind? Is it a safe place to live? (excuse my ignorance - sometime I feel like I live in a cave and do not keep up with current events)

    She advised me when I said that I would visit her there that it was extremely dangerous for Americans and that I might not make it out alive. So we revised the plan to Oman. I am guessing if you are thinking of moving there you might want to rethink that.

    A very dear friend is moving there for a 3 year commitment for a job (her husbands) and I am very worried about her. She is a very independent young American woman.

    There isn't much need to worry, because companies provide high-security housing for their employees. And as I mentioned previously, Saudi Arabia is quite safe overall--Americans just need to be more cautious.

    What she needs to be concerned about is the law. Independent American women will usually hate it here. She WILL have to cover, and she won't be able to drive or go places alone unless she has been escorted there. She will not be able to go places with unrelated male friends. There are NO legal alcohol-sellers/bars/party locations in the country. Trying to do these things may get her arrested and possibly deported. She will very likely hate it here. :)

    As for her personal safety, it's not very worrisome. There is a high amount of anti-American sentiment, but very few people would actually do or say anything to her--it's only the nutjobs she would need to worry about, and the government has cracked down very heavily on those. As I mentioned, her biggest safety issue is her independence--she's not going to be able to keep that.

    One more note: Depending on WHERE she's going to work, she may have different experiences. Here in my region (Dhahran), one of the largest oil companies in the world operates--Saudi Aramco. They have many, many expatriates from all over the world, including a pretty large American population. It's one of the easier places to live. If she's going to be living in Riyadh... Well, even *I* would be miserable there. :)

    Thank you for all your comments. I know she is going to be miserable, she likes to party and have beer. She likes to go where she wants, when she wants. Her dad has been trying to make her understand what she is up against over there. Her husband works for Halliburton and I think they are going to be in the area you are in (she said it was not too far from Bahrain) They will be living in a compound that is mostly Europeans and Americans. She will not be allowed to work - this too will drive her crazy (she is a nurse).

    Yep, she's going to go crazy. Warn her though--illegal parties and booze do exist, but the government crackdowns are BIG and you seriously don't want to end up in police custody in Saudi Arabia. Especially not as an expatriate female. I mean it. In Saudi Arabia, you respect the law or else.

    I will, we are all warning her what to expect. She refuses to not go with her husband, he has to go or find another company to work for at this point.

    Up to this point I have just found this conversation fascinating. I thought she was going to work there alone and her husband was trying to dissuade her. I would find It difficult to live in a place where I had to be escorted every where I go. I would find it stifling to wear cloths that entirely covers me in such hot weather. I can't imagine what it would be like. However......there is no where I'd rather be than with my husband. If that meant adjusting to different laws and expectations so be it. I have found joy in every place that I have lived. I imagine Susie that there are many great and intreating things about Saudi Arabia. I have read some on this post and have been fascinated.
    I guess that I would like to be warned what I was getting into, but I would also like to know some of the interesting things that women do to keep busy and entertained. What are the things that give you joy and entertain you?
    I hope that I am not intruding to much into the conversation. Thanks for letting me.

    Sorry to say, I find next to nothing here that entertains me. I walk in the malls because it's too hot to walk outside, and I enjoy walking. There are some nice traditional restaurants, if you like that kind of thing. It seems to me that women here occupy a lot of their time with shopping, which I don't enjoy.

    As peleroja mentioned, the lady in question might be able to work, but that will require a lot of hoop-jumping. Coming for her husband's job means she will be on an "accompanying dependent" visa, not on a working visa. If she wants to work, she would have to find a job that would be willing to hire her, start the visa process, then exit and re-enter the country with her new visa. As mentioned, women don't usually have to cover themselves within their compounds, but they do have to when they exit them.

    Yes, this is what she was told when she asked if she would be able to work, and they decided she would not work.
  • Lefty1290
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    Hey, all. :)

    I'm avoiding doing more rounds of FitnessBlender's abs program because I know it's going to take months to get the results I want. Ugh.
  • quiksylver296
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    Lefty1290 wrote: »
    Hey, all. :)

    I'm avoiding doing more rounds of FitnessBlender's abs program because I know it's going to take months to get the results I want. Ugh.

    I hear ya. It's a vicious cycle, isn't it?
  • FroggyBug
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    ShibaEars wrote: »
    LBuehrle8 wrote: »
    jthurman3 wrote: »
    Laura! How do you like your new Fitbit? You got the Charge HR?

    Yep the Charge HR! So far so good! I'm just trying to get used to a different app tracker and how it syncs with MFP is a bit different but I'm so happy to have an activity tracker again I felt so lost without it! It was kind of sad actually because before these came out I never thought about steps or activity during workouts, I just worked out. Now I can't stand working out without it!

    And then when you do forget to put it on (if you're like me) you throw a minor hissy fit and don't want to do the workout/walk/whatever.


    I know this is an old conversation but this is me today. I'm so mad that my fitbit decided to die during the night for some reason. I have walked SO much today and really want to know the numbers. I'm sore. Grr

    I just charged it the other night (I think Tuesday) so now I'm worried it's truly not going to work. I'll see when I get home.
  • TacoTina
    TacoTina Posts: 81 Member
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    I'm at a stand still losing weight I was using the scale weight all the time and yesterday
    someone told me to subtract 2 lbs for shoes and clothes weight it made me feel better again.
    I've been working hard for 6 months and watching my food intake for at least 3 to
    4 months I was getting discouraged with not loosing any weight but losing inches
    I can tell but I'm obsessed with losing weight just my rant I feel better now thank you.
  • ShibaEars
    ShibaEars Posts: 3,928 Member
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    FroggyBug wrote: »
    ShibaEars wrote: »
    LBuehrle8 wrote: »
    jthurman3 wrote: »
    Laura! How do you like your new Fitbit? You got the Charge HR?

    Yep the Charge HR! So far so good! I'm just trying to get used to a different app tracker and how it syncs with MFP is a bit different but I'm so happy to have an activity tracker again I felt so lost without it! It was kind of sad actually because before these came out I never thought about steps or activity during workouts, I just worked out. Now I can't stand working out without it!

    And then when you do forget to put it on (if you're like me) you throw a minor hissy fit and don't want to do the workout/walk/whatever.


    I know this is an old conversation but this is me today. I'm so mad that my fitbit decided to die during the night for some reason. I have walked SO much today and really want to know the numbers. I'm sore. Grr

    I just charged it the other night (I think Tuesday) so now I'm worried it's truly not going to work. I'll see when I get home.

    That's no good!

    I dropped mine into a sink full of soapy water last night. I got it out and dried it right away. It seems to be working alright, but I'm afraid it's going to crap out at some point.
  • raymax4
    raymax4 Posts: 6,070 Member
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    crosbylee wrote: »
    I am getting ready to head out for the weekend. I am sure I won't log faithfully, but I will log what I can. I am still seriously considering doing the challenge on Bodybuilding.com that quiksylver is doing. If I think I am up to it. I gotta start somewhere. Besides, those before pics I took should be enough motivation to never look this way again.

    Good going, have fun doing it
  • raymax4
    raymax4 Posts: 6,070 Member
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    TacoTina wrote: »
    I'm at a stand still losing weight I was using the scale weight all the time and yesterday
    someone told me to subtract 2 lbs for shoes and clothes weight it made me feel better again.
    I've been working hard for 6 months and watching my food intake for at least 3 to
    4 months I was getting discouraged with not loosing any weight but losing inches
    I can tell but I'm obsessed with losing weight just my rant I feel better now thank you.

    Welcome,
    I'd take inches over weight any day!
    Good going
  • nonoelmo
    nonoelmo Posts: 3,941 Member
    edited October 2015
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    Two confessions:

    I really enjoy Boarshead brand turkey pepperoni - I like the turkey better than the other because it is less greasy. Part of me feels a little guilty because we have a pet turkey, Georgia.

    I am going to fold and put away some clothes my son says are "dirty" without washing them. These are clothes he didn't wear, didn't do anything with, just threw onto his (very clean) rug as "dirty". This will save me 4 - 5 loads of laundry, no exaggeration. I would have him spend hours washing them and drying them and folding them and putting them away as the therapist suggested, but it is my time too and spending it forcing an anxious and unhappy teen to do chores is not how I want to spend my weekend. I hope I can get son to do something fun with me. Edited because I am not thinking in clear sentences.
  • caddir
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    I am having a tough time because we have gone onto shifts for two weeks to support intensive care staff with the new computer system. The change of hours is playing hell with my diet and I am eating all sorts at the wrong time.

    Hence I was eating chocolate coated corn cakes in my car. In my new peach coloured trousers.

    Result: working from 3:00 pm until almost midnight in peach trousers with nasty brown smudges all over the crotch and upper legs.

    Embarrassing!