Low carb... Is it a diet fad?

Nage3000 wrote: »

lemurcat12 wrote: »

...but find it frustrating when people start claiming that eating carbs is somehow not healthy.

Carbs are unhealthy.

@Nage3000, I understand your enthusiasm and I think it's great that keto works so well and is sustainable for you, but making blanket statements like this is why most people here think we all wear tinfoil hats...

ChickaDee2012 wrote: »

lemurcat12 wrote: »

Low carb is NOT healthier than other diets. Sure, it's possible to do LCHF in a healthy manner (although sadly I don't see this pushed as much). It's also easy to modify your diet to be more healthful (if necessary) without cutting carbs. I'm all for LCHF if someone finds it a more enjoyable or pleasant way to achieve a deficit or maintain weight, for them, but find it frustrating when people start claiming that eating carbs is somehow not healthy. It is certainly possible for someone to make poor choices as to the types and amounts of certain foods containing carbs (and often fat too) in their diets, just as it's possible to make poor choices when eating LCHF.

I agree with you...low carb is not necessarily healthier. People can choose poor carb choices...poor food choices regardless of diet. For me personally, going low carb meant choosing more veggies (which are carbs) and low glycemic fruit (over the processed stuff) combined with adequate fat and proten, because diabetes is in my family history.

Yeah, I understand that many people do improve their diets when going low carb, and like I said I respect that it can be the right choice. I just always find it odd (although I believe it) when people say they started eating more vegetables when they went low carb since of course (as you said) vegetables are carbs and there's no reason why someone couldn't eat a lot of them when eating 50% carb. Same with choosing to focus on cooking from whole foods vs. pre-made stuff. (Both things I try to do.)

Lots of the "carbs" people seem to over-indulge in are about half fat in reality, so it's a personal pet peeve that they get dismissed as "carbs" while many of the highest carb foods (by %) are full of micronutrients. (This is not intended to be an argument with you!)

Healthful traditional diets are all over the place in terms of macro ratios, but on the whole include lots of plants.

Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

stealthq wrote: »

dubird wrote: »

I guess American? It's the one in the old Wilson books. Essentially it's powdered sugar, vanilla and milk.

And butter, I assume? Yep, that's American buttercream.

ETA: removing earlier quotes to fix botched tags - plus this quote is the only relevant bit anyway.

I'm assuming butter is somehow involved in buttercream.

Well, so would I (obviously) but what she listed is also a legitimate set of ingredients for a different type of frosting. It's not uncommon for a term in cooking to get hijacked to refer to a completely different recipe so I'm just making sure.

When I was growing up, what the local bakeries called 'buttercream' was made with shortening, sugar and flavoring. For the temperature stability, you see. To me, it was disgusting.

lemurcat12 wrote: »

ChickaDee2012 wrote: »

For those reasons, and because I care about my health, I've chosen to go low carb, which means, cutting way down on processed stuff, sugars, flours and the like. But I didn't stop there, I've chosen to go Low Carb High Fat (this means healthy fats and not a GO pass for all the bacon you can eat), for my own personal situation and because it's HEALTHY, while still aiding weight loss. I would NOT have even thought to do this in my 20s, 30s or 40s.

Low carb is NOT healthier than other diets. Sure, it's possible to do LCHF in a healthy manner (although sadly I don't see this pushed as much). It's also easy to modify your diet to be more healthful (if necessary) without cutting carbs. I'm all for LCHF if someone finds it a more enjoyable or pleasant way to achieve a deficit or maintain weight, for them, but find it frustrating when people start claiming that eating carbs is somehow not healthy. It is certainly possible for someone to make poor choices as to the types and amounts of certain foods containing carbs (and often fat too) in their diets, just as it's possible to make poor choices when eating LCHF.

This is a bit of a blanket statement. For many people, a LCHF diet is healthier for them than other diets are.

ndj1979 wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

lemurcat12 wrote: »

ChickaDee2012 wrote: »

For those reasons, and because I care about my health, I've chosen to go low carb, which means, cutting way down on processed stuff, sugars, flours and the like. But I didn't stop there, I've chosen to go Low Carb High Fat (this means healthy fats and not a GO pass for all the bacon you can eat), for my own personal situation and because it's HEALTHY, while still aiding weight loss. I would NOT have even thought to do this in my 20s, 30s or 40s.

Low carb is NOT healthier than other diets. Sure, it's possible to do LCHF in a healthy manner (although sadly I don't see this pushed as much). It's also easy to modify your diet to be more healthful (if necessary) without cutting carbs. I'm all for LCHF if someone finds it a more enjoyable or pleasant way to achieve a deficit or maintain weight, for them, but find it frustrating when people start claiming that eating carbs is somehow not healthy. It is certainly possible for someone to make poor choices as to the types and amounts of certain foods containing carbs (and often fat too) in their diets, just as it's possible to make poor choices when eating LCHF.

This is a bit of a blanket statement. For many people, any LCHF diet is healthier for them than other diets are.

fixed it for you

You really didn't. Are you really that completely anti-LCHF that you won't admit or believe that LCHF diets are healthier for some people? I didn't say all. I said some people. Even that statement is too much for you?