Confession Time! ((ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENT))
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »
And I am saying HE was the one with the initial judgement, so you should have been calling out him and not me.quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I recently spent over a week at Disney World, and 1) I don't like people in general anymore 2) especially foreigners.
WTF?
No judgement.
I think you are telling that to the wrong person.
Calling someone out on their ignorant judgement is not the same......
Um, yes. It is. No judgement means no judgement. You cannot judge his post based on your personal beliefs. That is the backbone of this thread.
Isn't saying you hate an entire group of people a judgement? Or are you assuming he knows each of those 'foreigners' personally? Also, racism is not really a personal belief, it is stupid uneducated ignorance.
I'm saying YOU cannot judge him on his comment made in this thread. Period. That is the point of this thread.
My beliefs are irrelevant. If you want to debate the issue with him, this thread is not the place.
Nope. He made a confession. You judged his confession.
He made a racist statement. Racism is NEVER ok, not even in a 'no judgement' thread. Never.
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MelissaPhippsFeagins wrote: »POF - thanks for the update. When you come back to TN let me know.
Ironman Chattanooga this fall!
Roughly 4 hours from my house. I could do that. To cheer. I could not compete, I'd drown.
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Sorry about PK, Patricia. I'm glad you got to meet up with everyone and seemed to have such a good time.
Thanks. Just to clarify as it kind of freaks me out to see PK, my cat PK is ok. It was Porch Kitten who passed.
I know you mean PK for Porch Kitten but since I have a cat named PK it's kinda freaky.
Well, then, Porch Kitten.1 -
Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »
And I am saying HE was the one with the initial judgement, so you should have been calling out him and not me.quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I recently spent over a week at Disney World, and 1) I don't like people in general anymore 2) especially foreigners.
WTF?
No judgement.
I think you are telling that to the wrong person.
Calling someone out on their ignorant judgement is not the same......
Um, yes. It is. No judgement means no judgement. You cannot judge his post based on your personal beliefs. That is the backbone of this thread.
Isn't saying you hate an entire group of people a judgement? Or are you assuming he knows each of those 'foreigners' personally? Also, racism is not really a personal belief, it is stupid uneducated ignorance.
I'm saying YOU cannot judge him on his comment made in this thread. Period. That is the point of this thread.
My beliefs are irrelevant. If you want to debate the issue with him, this thread is not the place.
Nope. He made a confession. You judged his confession.
He made a racist statement. Racism is NEVER ok, not even in a 'no judgement' thread. Never.
Then go debate him via private message. This is not the forum.
And if you notice, @rungirl1973 was able to comment without judgement about his confession and still address the issue. Your "WTF?!?" did not have the same effect.5 -
rungirl1973 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I recently spent over a week at Disney World, and 1) I don't like people in general anymore 2) especially foreigners.
Sorry you didn't enjoy the happiest place on earth.
I try not to let things get to me, especially when I'm on vacation. Why worry about crowds? I'm not in a hurry anyhow, I'm on vacation!
Also, please note that there are a lot of "foreigners" who post here regularly...
Here, let me quote it for you, so you don't have to go back and find it.3 -
Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.5 -
Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
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Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.
No judgement does not make racism ok. I thought we already went over that.
Why are you so ok with racism?3 -
Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.
No judgement does not make racism ok. I thought we already went over that.
Why are you so ok with racism?
I'm not. I'm OK with "no judgement" and keeping this 1844 page thread running, without someone getting their panties in a wad and getting it closed down.4 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.
No judgement does not make racism ok. I thought we already went over that.
Why are you so ok with racism?
I'm not. I'm OK with "no judgement" and keeping this 1844 page thread running, without someone getting their panties in a wad and getting it closed down.
Funny, that bolded part. As this had nothing to do with you, until you decided to make it about you.
In fact, you were the only one to say something about it. So, who is trying to get the thread closed down? Cuz from here, it looks like you.3 -
Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.
No judgement does not make racism ok. I thought we already went over that.
Why are you so ok with racism?
I'm not. I'm OK with "no judgement" and keeping this 1844 page thread running, without someone getting their panties in a wad and getting it closed down.
Funny, that bolded part. As this had nothing to do with you, until you decided to make it about you.
In fact, you were the only one to say something about it. So, who is trying to get the thread closed down? Cuz from here, it looks like you.
You know, I kept my mouth shut in the Batcave when you went off about KylerJaye's thing and caused such a brouhaha that people left. I didn't agree with you then, either. We are obviously never going to see eye-to-eye. I'm done. Judge away.7 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »I recently spent over a week at Disney World, and 1) I don't like people in general anymore 2) especially foreigners.
This rubs me the wrong way and I'd like clarification about what you mean and why. I don't want to misunderstand your meaning unintentionally.
I don't like crowds, lines, or the general chaos that comes with a theme park, so I can definitely identify with not having a great time in that situation. It would be stressful and overwhelming to me, and I'd be exhausted.
What I don't understand is 1. How you classify someone as a "foreigner" (do you mean tourist? do you mean people who don't speak English well? do you mean people of color? do you mean people who aren't from the US?) or 2. Why you don't like them. Did something happen? Was there a language barrier that frustrated you?
This is an honest appeal for clarification by Bry Lander.
I do realize this is a "no judgment" zone. I don't think asking for clarification about someone's meaning is judgmental - in fact, I'm seeking the clarification in order to avoid such judgment.
Edit: Here's the thing though.... Confession: I really don't expect a response to this post. In my experience, people who say things that could be taken as inflammatory offhand rarely stick around to have a conversation about it. /shrug8 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.
No judgement does not make racism ok. I thought we already went over that.
Why are you so ok with racism?
I'm not. I'm OK with "no judgement" and keeping this 1844 page thread running, without someone getting their panties in a wad and getting it closed down.
Funny, that bolded part. As this had nothing to do with you, until you decided to make it about you.
In fact, you were the only one to say something about it. So, who is trying to get the thread closed down? Cuz from here, it looks like you.
You know, I kept my mouth shut in the Batcave when you went off about KylerJaye's thing and caused such a brouhaha that people left. I didn't agree with you then, either. We are obviously never going to see eye-to-eye. I'm done. Judge away.
When I feel someone is out of line, I speak up. I have always been that way, I am proud to be that way, and I will always be this way.
People do not always have to agree with things others say, but when someone is straight up being ignorant, racist, homophobic or whatever, there is a need to call it to attention to let them know that is not how normal humans behave. Being someone that calls herself a Christian, I would think you would know that, or live that even.
Furthermore, I was not even speaking to you, so why you felt the need to jump in and then get all out of sorts when I reply, I have no idea.
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MissKalhan wrote: »Know what would be cool? If my boss would quit using me as a scape goat, I am tired and not impressed. HMPH.
In other news! I may be seeing the Suicide Girls Burlesque show tonight with a friend tonight, I'm pretty freaking excited
Isn't Pearl Jam coming up for you, too?
Pearl Jam this Sunday! It's been a crazy busy week it makes me happy lol5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Italian_Buju wrote: »Why would I go into a PM with someone I do not know, over a comment made publicly? If you say something publicly, be prepared to be called out publicly. Not really rocket science.
This is the forum it was posted in, so this is the forum I will reply in.
I can post whatever I would like, where ever I would like. And I refuse to just let someone say something that ignorant and disgusting and not call them on it.
Quite frankly it makes me wonder why you are so adamant on defending someone's right to be a racist scumbag.
Because it is his right. Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it not his right. Rights are not based on your personal belief system.
Hm, interesting....
It is also my right to call him out on it.
Anywhere other than the "no judgement" thread.
No judgement does not make racism ok. I thought we already went over that.
Why are you so ok with racism?
I'm not. I'm OK with "no judgement" and keeping this 1844 page thread running, without someone getting their panties in a wad and getting it closed down.
Funny, that bolded part. As this had nothing to do with you, until you decided to make it about you.
In fact, you were the only one to say something about it. So, who is trying to get the thread closed down? Cuz from here, it looks like you.
You know, I kept my mouth shut in the Batcave when you went off about KylerJaye's thing and caused such a brouhaha that people left. I didn't agree with you then, either. We are obviously never going to see eye-to-eye. I'm done. Judge away.
wait, you mean when others were so quick to judge my apology as being insincere and called me a bigot?
then those same whiny *kitten* (turn into kittens, turn into kittens) flounced right the *kitten* off...because you know, that's what friends do, jump ship when the waves get a bit rocky....but then expect to interact with the same ppl in the OT because you know....it's not The Same Thing (well, with less fun pics...).
is that the brouhaha you're referencing? just wanted to make sure i'm looking to the correct interactions....3 -
MissKalhan wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »Know what would be cool? If my boss would quit using me as a scape goat, I am tired and not impressed. HMPH.
In other news! I may be seeing the Suicide Girls Burlesque show tonight with a friend tonight, I'm pretty freaking excited
Isn't Pearl Jam coming up for you, too?
Pearl Jam this Sunday! It's been a crazy busy week it makes me happy lol
They are so good live! Or, at least they were 20 years ago, lol.2 -
MissKalhan wrote: »MissKalhan wrote: »Know what would be cool? If my boss would quit using me as a scape goat, I am tired and not impressed. HMPH.
In other news! I may be seeing the Suicide Girls Burlesque show tonight with a friend tonight, I'm pretty freaking excited
Isn't Pearl Jam coming up for you, too?
Pearl Jam this Sunday! It's been a crazy busy week it makes me happy lol
AWESOME!! I'm excited for you! And the burlesque show sounds really cool!! I want to know how it is!!2 -
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