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  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    TR0berts wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Seriously, what I am supposed to eat with Oreos, if not milk?

    Pfft...

    More Oreos?

    This is the only acceptable answer to such a painful question.

    Except chocolate ice cream. Always crushed Oreos on chocolate ice cream.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Thalie5000 wrote: »
    Cheese can be highly addictive and is not very healthy at all.

    No. Just no.

    where does this stuff come from ...
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.

    From your own link:
    "Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?

    There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.

    In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."
  • BillMcKay1
    BillMcKay1 Posts: 315 Member
    edited August 2016
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.

    From your own link:
    "Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?

    There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.

    In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."

    You're taking that part out of context.

    Taken in context reading that entire article there is literally (and i mean that literally) no where it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer.
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhh...

    "All of these claims are largely untrue."

    See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?

    Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?

    It's one a' them there fancy elements that only exists for a millisecond under controlled laboratory conditions unless compressed into can format.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhh...

    "All of these claims are largely untrue."

    See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?

    Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?

    Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?

    Okay, I got it, jokes on me. I took it hook, line, and sinker. ;)
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhh...

    "All of these claims are largely untrue."

    See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?

    Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?

    Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?

    I have seen soil and water on or in every farm or forest I have ever entered in my entire life, so yes, I have seen aluminum in both places. It is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust, which in case you're confused, is the part we actually see and touch.
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhh...

    "All of these claims are largely untrue."

    See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?

    Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?

    Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?

    I have seen soil and water on or in every farm or forest I have ever entered in my entire life, so yes, I have seen aluminum in both places. It is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust, which in case you're confused, is the part we actually see and touch.

    Well of course those places have it, you're testing them for it. You wouldn't be getting analysis for the pristine, natural areas that don't have it.

    LOL--I fell for it too. Veeeerrrry subtle. Thanks for the laugh!
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhh...

    "All of these claims are largely untrue."

    See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?

    Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?

    Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?

    It's an element on the stinking periodic table! It's not a man-made substance. It's harvested straight out of the dirt! (or rock)

    So yeah, it's on farms and in forests all over the place.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not :smile:

    that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...

    Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
    Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular.
    Are we done now?

    I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.

    Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/

    From that same site:
    Deodorant causes breast cancer.

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/

    Yeah, the ACS says so too:
    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk

    Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.

    From your own link:
    "Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?

    There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.

    In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."

    You're taking that part out of context.

    Taken in context reading that entire article there is literally (and i mean that literally) where it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer.

    Finally someone read the entire article.

    Because we know you didn't.

    Good job though.
    You came to the site as a new poster, found a milk thread, latched on to a tidbit about deodorant and completely derailed the thread with nonsense and a complete lack of basic comprehension of reality.
    Troll level 6.
  • vingogly
    vingogly Posts: 1,785 Member
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    It's an element on the stinking periodic table! It's not a man-made substance. It's harvested straight out of the dirt! (or rock)

    So yeah, it's on farms and in forests all over the place.

    But it's processed into foil and cans by human beings, and anything we human beings touch is Evil. Because Nature is pristine and Good, and human beings are Evil by nature. Gaia and all that. All other species are good because they're natural. We're the only beings on the planet that are unnatural. It's pretty much the legend of the Fall from Genesis tarted up in New Age format.