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Is dairy good or bad?
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Thalie5000 wrote: »Cheese can be highly addictive and is not very healthy at all.
No. Just no.
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
I hate to derail the woo train, but aluminum exists in nature. It's a major part of the crust of the Earth.8 -
BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.
From your own link:
"Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?
There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.
In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."1 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?5 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.
From your own link:
"Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?
There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.
In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."
You're taking that part out of context.
Taken in context reading that entire article there is literally (and i mean that literally) no where it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer.1 -
cushman5279 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
Those cows would be in a lot of pain if they were unmilked. Dairy cows are upset with you if you fail to milk them on schedule.
Totally wrong.
Cows are forcefully inseminated and the moment they give birth the baby calf is ripped away before it can even walk or open it's eyes. The babies are put into cages (some) for veal and the mother cows are milked, for their milk. The entire process is painful and unethical. But yeah... keep listening to the multi-billion dollar dairy industry when they tell you milk does a body good.
Oh, and momma cows are also upset when their babies are taken away from them.
The words Ethical farming and slaughter just don't make sense.
I grew up on a dairy farm. NONE OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED on our farm. None of the cows were artificially inseminated. The calves drank from their mothers until they were ready to be weaned. The calves were well cared for and were either added to the heard, or sold at market once they were older. It is absolutely possible to make choices that don't support the practices you are talking about. But to be honest, when someone comes in with the type of approach as you are using here, I actually want to eat all the cows and drink all the milk.
ETA: and yes, failing to milk the cows was painful for them.
Well I never said all of them were doing that. But even one is too many.
Go ahead and eat cows and drink milk all day everyday, that's your problem not mine
Bad logic here. One person beats their kids so no one should have kids? One person hits their wife so no one should get married? One person drives while intoxicated so no one should have a car? These would all be similar logic failures.5 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
It's one a' them there fancy elements that only exists for a millisecond under controlled laboratory conditions unless compressed into can format.4 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?
Okay, I got it, jokes on me. I took it hook, line, and sinker.
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?
I have seen soil and water on or in every farm or forest I have ever entered in my entire life, so yes, I have seen aluminum in both places. It is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust, which in case you're confused, is the part we actually see and touch.4 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?
I have seen soil and water on or in every farm or forest I have ever entered in my entire life, so yes, I have seen aluminum in both places. It is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust, which in case you're confused, is the part we actually see and touch.
Well of course those places have it, you're testing them for it. You wouldn't be getting analysis for the pristine, natural areas that don't have it.
LOL--I fell for it too. Veeeerrrry subtle. Thanks for the laugh!1 -
BreezeDoveal wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?
It's an element on the stinking periodic table! It's not a man-made substance. It's harvested straight out of the dirt! (or rock)
So yeah, it's on farms and in forests all over the place.1 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »BillMcKay1 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.
From your own link:
"Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?
There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.
In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."
You're taking that part out of context.
Taken in context reading that entire article there is literally (and i mean that literally) where it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer.
Finally someone read the entire article.
Because we know you didn't.
Good job though.
You came to the site as a new poster, found a milk thread, latched on to a tidbit about deodorant and completely derailed the thread with nonsense and a complete lack of basic comprehension of reality.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »It's an element on the stinking periodic table! It's not a man-made substance. It's harvested straight out of the dirt! (or rock)
So yeah, it's on farms and in forests all over the place.
But it's processed into foil and cans by human beings, and anything we human beings touch is Evil. Because Nature is pristine and Good, and human beings are Evil by nature. Gaia and all that. All other species are good because they're natural. We're the only beings on the planet that are unnatural. It's pretty much the legend of the Fall from Genesis tarted up in New Age format.3 -
BreezeDoveal wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?
Yes. Now go back to your bridge.3 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhh...
"All of these claims are largely untrue."
See, not entirely. Do you really think you could take something that doesn't exist in nature like aluminum and just shove it up your arm to stop yourself from getting rid of the body's toxins?
Did you just say that aluminum doesn't exist in nature?
Have you ever seen aluminum on a farm or a forest?
It's an element on the stinking periodic table! It's not a man-made substance. It's harvested straight out of the dirt! (or rock)
So yeah, it's on farms and in forests all over the place.
Thank you for pointing out more evidence it is a chemical.
Oxygen is a chemical.
ETA and I apologize for feeding the troll4 -
cushman5279 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
Those cows would be in a lot of pain if they were unmilked. Dairy cows are upset with you if you fail to milk them on schedule.
Totally wrong.
Cows are forcefully inseminated and the moment they give birth the baby calf is ripped away before it can even walk or open it's eyes. The babies are put into cages (some) for veal and the mother cows are milked, for their milk. The entire process is painful and unethical. But yeah... keep listening to the multi-billion dollar dairy industry when they tell you milk does a body good.
Oh, and momma cows are also upset when their babies are taken away from them.
The words Ethical farming and slaughter just don't make sense.
I grew up on a dairy farm. NONE OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED on our farm. None of the cows were artificially inseminated. The calves drank from their mothers until they were ready to be weaned. The calves were well cared for and were either added to the heard, or sold at market once they were older. It is absolutely possible to make choices that don't support the practices you are talking about. But to be honest, when someone comes in with the type of approach as you are using here, I actually want to eat all the cows and drink all the milk.
ETA: and yes, failing to milk the cows was painful for them.
Well I never said all of them were doing that. But even one is too many.
Go ahead and eat cows and drink milk all day everyday, that's your problem not mine
Our problem? We don't have a problem with it. You on the other hand seem very distressed about it.3 -
Oh the scary dihydrogen monoxide is a chemical too7
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cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »salembambi wrote: »bad for you
& especially for the calf and mother cows
Those cows would be in a lot of pain if they were unmilked. Dairy cows are upset with you if you fail to milk them on schedule.
Totally wrong.
I'm not a cow, but I did give birth to a human and had to deal with breasts swollen with milk. It is painful and made me upset that I couldn't pump out the milk to relieve the pain.
How about if you'd given birth and your baby was taken away from you. Then you could be hooked up to machines for the milk... that could be given to cows to drink. Then when you're done you could have another baby.. oh hell, let's make it a dozen more babies until you're all used up. Sound like an awesome way to spend a life.
Considering I would be better treated and taken care of in that situation than I am now, I'll happily agree to it.
Please realize there are people here who have been on/worked at/lived on dairy farms and know exactly how it works. You're not fooling anyone in the know.7 -
BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »BillMcKay1 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.
From your own link:
"Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?
There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.
In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."
You're taking that part out of context.
Taken in context reading that entire article there is literally (and i mean that literally) where it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer.
Finally someone read the entire article.
Because we know you didn't.
Good job though.
You came to the site as a new poster, found a milk thread, latched on to a tidbit about deodorant and completely derailed the thread with nonsense and a complete lack of basic comprehension of reality.
Troll level 6.
He said, " it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer."
That's how I know he read the whole thing.
You're taking the parts where it says "no strong evidence" in the wrong context. It says, "no strong evidence". That isn't the same as no evidence. Maybe you're fine with risking cancer and dementia over strength of evidence, but not everyone is.
No.
He said:BillMcKay1 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »cushman5279 wrote: »You have to ask yourself why so many millions of people are lactose intolerant. Some people just simply adapt to digesting the sugar enzymes contained in milk out of survival. Others don't. I wonder about things like this... like if something is giving you heart burn would you just take a pill and continue to eat the item? Personally I feel like that's my body telling me to stop. So many people forgot to listen to their bodies thought it's just sad. A lot of people actually let a computer program and application developers tell them when they should eat instead of trying to figure out if their actually hungry or not
that last statement is pretty ironic given that you have an open diary that you are using to track calories on a site that is designed by others...
Really? out of the entire statement all you can come up with picking on the very last sentence? LOL!
Okay, I'll play, yes I'm using a site built and maintained by developers. But that doesn't mean I have forgotten how to listen to my body. It was a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular. Are we done now?
I sure hope so. The anthropomorphizing and illogical appeals to emotion posing as legitimate arguments against the nutritional benefits of milk consumption are getting old.
Ahhh....The plagiarism of another (illogial, unscientific) site combined with the distinct increase in screechiness and general hysteria in response to the debunking of a position took me back to my days of teaching college writing. Next, the crying. I would collect the tears in a vial and wear them on a chain around my neck.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/04/03/over-75-of-earths-population-is-lactose-intolerant-for-a-reason-dairy-is-harmful/
From that same site:
Deodorant causes breast cancer.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/10/23/how-to-prevent-breast-cancer-through-an-armpit-detox/
Yeah, the ACS says so too:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
Uhm...did you read the article you linked? Because it straight up says there's no reason to believe such claims.
From your own link:
"Do antiperspirants increase a person's risk of breast cancer?
There are no strong epidemiologic studies in the medical literature that link breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, and very little scientific evidence to support this claim.
In fact, a carefully designed epidemiologic study of this issue published in 2002 compared 813 women with breast cancer and 793 women without the disease. The researchers found no link between breast cancer risk and antiperspirant use, deodorant use, or underarm shaving."
You're taking that part out of context.
Taken in context reading that entire article there is literally (and i mean that literally) no where it states antiperspirants/deodorants with or without aluminium cause or contribute to cancer.
He is disagreeing with you. You misquoted him.
ETA
And I did read the whole article myself and I took nothing out of context. The entirety of the message being put forward is "don't worry about it. It's just an email rumor."
If you read the whole thing and think that it in any way insinuates that there is any reason to think that antiperspirant causes breast cancer, you have some serious problems with reading comprehension.2 -
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In other news, cows who use antiperspirant get beaten less often but produce milk that glows in the dark.8
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