So this happened..
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Hate to say this... It won't make me popular by any means... The latest studies are showing that it appears that indeed, sugar is likely causative of diabetes. Stay tuned for more, I'll bet we'll all be eating those words ( sugar doesn't cause diabetes).
Link the studies that prove a causation
Not a correlation10 -
Hate to say this... It won't make me popular by any means... The latest studies are showing that it appears that indeed, sugar is likely causative of diabetes. Stay tuned for more, I'll bet we'll all be eating those words ( sugar doesn't cause diabetes).
Link the studies that prove a causation
Not a correlation
And not rat studies, please. People are not rats.4 -
I did read something about regular sugar beverage intake in overweight people increaseing risk TBH but didn't know the theory had any form of peer reviewed support yet2
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Op, you need to relax. That kind of panicking over one occasion where you ate more than you meant to is unhealthy, and if you obsess over "control" you are setting yourself up to binge. None of us has perfect control around food or anything else, we are not meant to. Log it and move on.4
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Alatariel75 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Well, if you had eaten 14, you would have been fine, but you had to cross the line. Diabetes for you!
Seriously, I love those gooey balls of hazelnut heaven. I also only buy them in packs of three because I still have difficulties moderating certain things. I have worked with many people who have actual addictions, so no, not the same as cocaine.
Just sayin'
Um, yes please and thank you.
You can get little packs of three or four Ferreros here in the UK now, so I don't need to buy a whole dang box to scratch that itch.
OP, chill. Did you enjoy the chocolate? Have you logged those calories so you can see exactly what you did? If yes then move on. Life happens.
Personally had two donuts for breakfast. No regrets. (Though I do feel a little sickly so maybe a wee small spark of regret).8 -
I did read something about regular sugar beverage intake in overweight people increaseing risk TBH but didn't know the theory had any form of peer reviewed support yet
It seems to me that preaching that there is absolutely no causation when we see a correlation is a bit reckless. There is a big difference between something being unproven and being false and there are a lot of grey areas in this world where would probably be wise to exercise a little caution.8 -
You could still create a deficit for the day as that is only 1100 calories from chocolate.2
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Oooooooh Those are so good! I agree with the others. One day will not ruin you, so I hope you enjoyed those and move on.0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Well, if you had eaten 14, you would have been fine, but you had to cross the line. Diabetes for you!
Seriously, I love those gooey balls of hazelnut heaven. I also only buy them in packs of three because I still have difficulties moderating certain things. I have worked with many people who have actual addictions, so no, not the same as cocaine.
Just sayin'
You don't happen to have a recipe for those do you? Asking for a friend...14 -
smotheredincheese wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Well, if you had eaten 14, you would have been fine, but you had to cross the line. Diabetes for you!
Seriously, I love those gooey balls of hazelnut heaven. I also only buy them in packs of three because I still have difficulties moderating certain things. I have worked with many people who have actual addictions, so no, not the same as cocaine.
Just sayin'
You don't happen to have a recipe for those do you? Asking for a friend...
Thanks.....friend.....11 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Hate to say this... It won't make me popular by any means... The latest studies are showing that it appears that indeed, sugar is likely causative of diabetes. Stay tuned for more, I'll bet we'll all be eating those words ( sugar doesn't cause diabetes).
Link the studies that prove a causation
Not a correlation
And not rat studies, please. People are not rats.
To be honest you can't actually do a realistic long term study on humans for ethics reasons. There are epidemiological style studies performed with humans or safety and efficacy trials for new drugs/vaccines but there is no way to practically study if eating X for 15 years increases your chance of Y in a laboratory setting in humans for what I hope are obvious reasons. So asking for a lab study in humans for something like "Does sugar cause diabeties" is unrealistic. Best one could do would be an epidemiological statistical analysis of data based on patient records.14 -
Hate to say this... It won't make me popular by any means... The latest studies are showing that it appears that indeed, sugar is likely causative of diabetes. Stay tuned for more, I'll bet we'll all be eating those words ( sugar doesn't cause diabetes).
You honestly should avoid mentioning "a study says..." without linking to said study so that other people can evaluate it for themselves. You definately shouldn't do it if you yourself haven't read and comprehended said study. It is the primary way in which misinformation gets propogated.22 -
I JUST ATE LIKE 15 FERRERO ROCHES CHOCOLATES! Ik that one day of really bad eating wont affect ur whole weightloss journey just like one day of healthy eating wont make you lose weight but seriously will i get diabetes or something, this is literally more addictive than cocaine. Sorry if this post is stupid but i can't make myself be in control around food!
This makes me sad
That the entire world has filled with so much stupid made up stories and derpitude that anyone anywhere can believe that diabetes is caused by sugar
That's not how it works
Diabetes is a medical condition, a result of a body's inability to regulate insulin. One of the factors in developing type 2 diabetes can be being overweight. Sugar is mixed with fat and carbs to make highly palatable, highly calorific, cheap foods that are easy to binge on...eating too many calories over time will make you put on weight. Being fat does not mean diabetes, it just increases your risk.
Don't panic cos you ate poor quality, cheap chocolates ...there's 73 calories in 1 ... you just ate 1053 calories which you could have used on other foods
Log it, move on
With my current limited understanding of diabeties this is accurate.5 -
I did read something about regular sugar beverage intake in overweight people increaseing risk TBH but didn't know the theory had any form of peer reviewed support yet
It seems to me that preaching that there is absolutely no causation when we see a correlation is a bit reckless. There is a big difference between something being unproven and being false and there are a lot of grey areas in this world where would probably be wise to exercise a little caution.
I don't think anyone has ever said that correlation somehow negates causation, just that correlation is not direct evidence of causation...because it isn't. Its like a Venn Diagram....anything that causes something will also correlate with it but not everything that correlates will be the cause. Many many many millions of times more things correlate than are causes so in the vast majority of causes a correlation is not associated with a cause.
Leaves fall off trees when kids go back to school, but that doesn't mean falling leaves cause education.11 -
You know what, sometimes you just need to do these things, to get it out of your system.
I had a bag of marzipan potatoes the other day. Yes you read that right. I just Had to Have them. And I did. And they were feckin gorgeous. And I don't care one bit.17 -
I ate three pumpkin glazed donuts on saturday. 900 calories.
I know your pain- I just won't be buying those anymore2 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Hate to say this... It won't make me popular by any means... The latest studies are showing that it appears that indeed, sugar is likely causative of diabetes. Stay tuned for more, I'll bet we'll all be eating those words ( sugar doesn't cause diabetes).
Link the studies that prove a causation
Not a correlation
And not rat studies, please. People are not rats.
To be honest you can't actually do a realistic long term study on humans for ethics reasons. There are epidemiological style studies performed with humans or safety and efficacy trials for new drugs/vaccines but there is no way to practically study if eating X for 15 years increases your chance of Y in a laboratory setting in humans for what I hope are obvious reasons. So asking for a lab study in humans for something like "Does sugar cause diabeties" is unrealistic. Best one could do would be an epidemiological statistical analysis of data based on patient records.
Ugh. In all honesty I was pretty tired when I typed that. Thanks.0 -
smotheredincheese wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Well, if you had eaten 14, you would have been fine, but you had to cross the line. Diabetes for you!
Seriously, I love those gooey balls of hazelnut heaven. I also only buy them in packs of three because I still have difficulties moderating certain things. I have worked with many people who have actual addictions, so no, not the same as cocaine.
Just sayin'
You don't happen to have a recipe for those do you? Asking for a friend...
Hope this works...
Ferraro Rocher Cupcakes with Nutella Buttercream
http://cookiescupcakesandcardio.com/?p=4742
These look awesome!!!6 -
Only an idiot conflates correlation with causation
To your point: http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations1
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