November 2016 Running Challenge
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »I did intervals and worked on speed (which I never do). I didn't even know my legs could run at a 8:00 min mile pace...ha ha of course it was only for like 2 - 3 tenths of a mile ha ha
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11/1- 4 miles solo plus 1 mile with Stella
11/2- 0.8 miles with Stella (AM)+5 miles lunchtime run
11/3-5 miles AM + 1 mile with Stella
11/4-Rest Day
11/5- 10 miles
11/6-7 miles +1 mile with Stella
11/7-Rest Day
11/8- 5.1 miles solo + 1.1 mile with Stella(who killed it...pace PR for her!)
11/9-5.1 miles of Mound hills+1 mile with Stella
11/10-6 miles Beckett Ridge +0.7 miles with Stella
11/11-4 mile lunch run +1.3 AM run with Stella
11/12- Rest/travel day
11/13-9.1 miles in Charlotte
11/14-1.2 miles with Stella
11/15-5 miles + .5 miles with Stella
11/16-5 miles + 1 mile with Stella
11/17-6.1 miles +1.1 miles with Stella
11/18- .5 mile run with Stella (plus strength training)
11/19-10.1 miles with Mojo group
11/20-6 miles
11/21-5.8 miles total (last 1 with Stella)
@kristinegift- I know I posted on your wall yesterday, but I will tell you again that I am sorry to hear that your race did not go as you hoped. You are very right about a lot of things you said in your post and I commend you on your maturity and your attitude. You are young and Boston will always be there. That's the most important thing to remember. Taking a break from the pressure of it all is probably a very wise thing. I always say that one of the toughest components of running is patience. We are always pushing ourselves towards longer, faster, whatever. Sometimes the biggest gains come when we just sit back and let them come to us. I think shifting your focus to the half marathon will be great for you. No doubt you will succeed in your goal, and it will only help you in your long term marathon goals as well. Then when you are ready, you will be in great shape for a BQ. At 25, you are leaps and bounds ahead of where I was as a runner at that age. You have so many years of great running ahead of you. And last but not least, congrats on a gritty and tough performance yesterday too. Most people would kill for that time, and you pulled it out under enormous physical distress. You have lots to be proud of!
Nothing exciting to report about today's run. Same old gripes: cold, windy, dark, is it spring yet?, blah, blah, blah...
But on a positive note, Stella had a fantastic run!
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November goal: 75 miles
11/1: 3 miles (m)
11/2: Rest Day
11/3: 3 miles
11/4: 3 miles (m)
11/5: 3 miles
11/6: 2.75 miles
11/7: 3 miles (m)
11/8: 3 miles
11/9: Rest Day
11/10: Rest Day
11/11: No running per Doc
11/12: No running per Doc
11/13: No running per Doc
11/14: No running per Doc
11/15: No running per Doc
11/16: 4 miles
11/17: 4 miles
11/18: 4 miles
11/19: 4 miles
11/20: 5 miles
11/21: 5 miles
My Total/November: 46.75 miles
Mike's Total: 9 miles
Missed checking in yesterday. It has been a good couple of days for running with Fergus. I wanted to go longer yesterday, but I woke up late and had to get home to make brunch. 5 miles felt good yesterday though, so I did it again today! I was shooting for being up to 5 miles per day by the end of the year and it looks like I may just hit that goal early. I am tentatively planning to stick at 5 miles per day once I am consistent with it and then just concentrate on getting stronger and faster while adding distance to a weekly "long run." Like I said, I don't really have a solid plan; I just kind of go.
@MobyCarp, @kkabambe & @_nikkiwolf_ Thanks for the diverse input. I personally flip flop between thinking it is too early to commit and thinking that the commitment might be that extra bit of motivation to keep at it. I didn't even consider that I might be able to "back out" of it and downgrade to a half if I end up not being ready. The most distance I have ever run at once was, I think, 8 or 9 miles. But that was back in 2010 when I was training to run a half. I actually did do a half that year but I alternated running and walking each mile. So I do have a little experience with some longer distances...it has just been a while and I have not run the whole way. Time commitment is not really an issue for me. I already have a workout schedule that runs between 2-3 hours per day and there is planty of time on Sundays for me to work in long runs. I don't see that changing any time in the next year or two. There is also a USAFit marathon training group in my town that kicks off in June to prep for the Houston Marathon in January; I am considering working with them for a more structured training program with some experienced marathoners (which, of course, I can do whether I commit in January or not).
@kristinegift You are definitely an inspiration. The day may not have gone your way, but you pushed through and kept going! I am impressed.
Have a great day everyone!
Upcoming Race:
12/3 Snowball Run 5K, Kingwood TX
OK, so the ticker does eventually update, it just seems to take it a while.
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Calvin2008Brian wrote: »The wind shorts are a wise investment. And then there's always this.
I should the LRT again soon. I really like that I can park next to Excelsior Brewing Company, run, then enjoy a recovery IPA before heading home. Maybe next time I'll park near ENKI Brewing. I haven't been there yet.RunsOnEspresso wrote: »So what I'm asking is what are your favorite run tracking devices? I don't want to spend a lot (maybe around $200). I don't need one that tracks steps. I don't need heart rate, but if it's built into I wouldn't mind. I don't use a chest strap though.
Here's a great site to compare various versions (current and discontinued) of the Garmin Forerunner GPS watches
http://www.gpscentral.ca/products/garmin/forerunnercomparison.htm
@_nikkiwolf_ glad you're getting back to enjoyable runs!
@MobyCarp it's great seeing your steady progress. I'm very impressed with your discipline and how you're handling it.
@kristinegift I don't care what your finish time was, you impress the hell out of me with your training and how you toughed out those brutal conditions this past weekend.
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@kristinegift I echo what everyone else says. You are an inspiration. Even if the race wasn't what you'd hoped, you still made it through despite the pain. Hopefully you'll get some rest and get right back to killing it.1
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My goal is to get a new PR for the winter Holiday Strreak. My PR so far is 79 miles ( I know I'm a rookie runner lol) I've done the HS the last 3 yrs, but for one reason or another I end up stop running after the first of the year. This will be my 4th HS...and I WILL break my PR.... looking for 80+ miles.
And to those of you runner who thinks 80 miles is a piece of cake for you... this will be a hardy goal for me. lol, it's all good.
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My weekend report:
11/19 - 11.1 trail miles
11/20 - 10.2 trail miles, with Kody
Saturday a new local running store was having a demo of the On Running Cloudventure trail running shoe. I slid a pair on and then the store owner and I, along with another runner, ran for 6 miles. I was very skeptical because they have goofy looking "Cloudtec" pods which stick out on the bottom.
I thought they looked like a gimmick and would take away all feel of the trail. I was wrong. I had solid footing on all surfaces and I had very good feel of the trail, while providing enough cushion to absorb the impact. When I put them on they felt like a very comfortable slipper. After running for a bit they felt like...nothing. I loved them and will be adding some to my stable. The owner told me for Black Friday they're having a "buy 2 pair, get 1 free" sale on shoes so I'm going to see if I can find three pair next week. They are at the top end of my price tolerance at $150, but the 3 for the price of 2 brings the cost to $100 each. I'd like to get 2 of the Cloudventure and 1 pair of something else.
I did demo their road shoe, the Cloudsurfer, and found I didn't like that at all. I felt very jarring with each step for me. Odd that it has such a different feel to it.
After the 6 mile run, I ran another 5+ with the other runner I had met at the shoe demo. This part I ran with my Merrell All Out Charge trail shoes and found that after running in the Cloudventure I no longer like the Merrell. Unfortunately I still have 150 miles left on this pair and a new pair in waiting.
Sunday my intent was to run 5 miles with Kody but after a couple of miles I knew I wasn't going to be able to stop at 5. Kody had a blast and halfway into the run decided I was going too slow so he left my side and started running 20 yards ahead of me. Any time we came to a trail intersection he'd stop until I pointed to the trail I wanted him to go on (He's trained to follow hand signals for direction). I've been trying to train him to change directions like a sled dog, Gee and Haw, but that hasn't clicked yet.
Sunday was also the day I gave my Salomon Speed Cross 4 shoes a second chance. The first time I wore them I ran 6 miles and the toe box was so tight I got a blister on the side of my big toe. This time I used a thinner sock and a liberal amount of Trail Toes and my feet felt great after the run, so they're a keeper now. They certainly felt better than my Merrell's.
These two long runs give me 35.9 miles for the week, which is my largest weekly total since I ran the marathon in May. Everything is feeling good and I'm encouraged about ultra training. My plan is a gradual mileage increase between now and April, with cutback weeks ever 2 or 3 weeks depending on my schedule and how I'm feeling.
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@kristinegift Sorry your marathon didn't go as you'd hoped, but in my eyes you're a rockstar. You fought through to the finish, when giving up would have been understandable and even expected by some. Your attitude about it admirable and I thank you for sharing your experience with us. Now rest up!
@7lenny7 Thanks for the shoe review! Bummer that you don't care for your Merrells anymore, though!
@MNLittleFinn Ahh, 7 months?? It feels to far away but so soon at the same time. We WILL do it!!
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@7lenny7 love the shoe review. I may try to find them. I have the All our Charge too, they feel stiff and bind on push off.
I'm in Brooks ghost 9 now, but I'm leery of committing to a 12mm drop. I have some Mizuno Hitogami 3 coming this week with a 9 drop.
The drop in the cloud trail shoes looks like it'd be 8-10? I like the looks of the uppers. They so look comfy.
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Quick check-in to post my miles since I haven't in a week. I a trying to pop in when I can just to see how everyone is doing. Working 12-16/hrs/day isn't leaving me a lot of time to spend reading here and when I do have a moment the last thing I want to do is spend more time sitting in front of my PC. I am hoping it will calm down a bit this week though with the holiday.
Date........Miles.....Total
11/01......0.00......0.00 - + Strength Training
11/02......4.66......4.66
11/03......0.00......4.66 - + Strength Training and Rally Obedience (2 classes!)
11/04......4.29......8.95
11/05......0.00......8.95 - Agility Trial
11/06......0.00......8.95 - Agility Trial
11/07......4.23....13.18 - + Agility class
11/08......3.00....16.18 - + Strength Training
11/09......4.41....20.59
11/10......0.00....20.59 - to Napa
11/11......0.00....20.59 - Wine
11/12......5.02....25.61 - Wine country run + Wine
11/13......0.00....25.61 - Back to reality
11/14......3.67....29.28
11/15......5.06....34.34 - Sunset run
11/16......0.00....34.34 - + Strength Training
11/17......4.60....38.94 - + Rally Obedience
11/18......5.58....44.52
11/19......0.00....44.52 - Dog Beach
11/20....10.32....54.84 - Long almost rain run
^^^don't know why my ticker is not/won't update. I know it has been slow in the past but it is getting ridiculous!
My completed and upcoming Races - Let me know if you will be running too!
02/07/16 - Surf City Half Marathon
02/20/16 - Divas Half Marathon - Temecula
07/04/16 - SHEPower Virtual Half Marathon
07/31/16 - San Francisco 2nd Half Marathon
08/21/16 - Tiki Beach 10k, Huntington Beach
09/18/16 - Beat the Blerch Half Marathon, Seattle
11/19/16 - USA Invitational Half Marathon (Yay, I qualified again!) - CANCELED!!
12/18/16 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon
02/05/17 - Surf City Half Marathon1 -
@7lenny7 love the shoe review. I may try to find them. I have the All our Charge too, they feel stiff and bind on push off.
I'm in Brooks ghost 9 now, but I'm leery of committing to a 12mm drop. I have some Mizuno Hitogami 3 coming this week with a 9 drop.
The drop in the cloud trail shoes looks like it'd be 8-10? I like the looks of the uppers. They so look comfy.
@Elise4270 they have a 6mm drop though it felt to me a bit more. I guessed 7-8 when I asked the store owner during our run.
I think it was @_nikkiwolf_ who mentioned that she didn't like the thin laces. The owner mentioned they do that so you can tight the whole shoe quicker, but then you do loose the ability to adjust different areas of the shoe differently. You can either switch to a thicker lace or do some double looping in areas where you want the show a little more snug.
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Date .. Miles .. Total
11/01 .. 05.6 .. 05.6
11/02 .. Rest
11/03 .. 06.5 .. 12.1
11/04 .. Rest
11/05 .. Rest
11/06 .. 08.4 .. 20.5
11/07 .. Rest
11/08 .. 07.0 .. 27.5
11/09 .. Rest
11/10 .. Rest
11/11 .. 04.9 .. 32.4
11/12 .. 10.3 .. 42.7
11/13 .. Rest
11/14 .. 01.5 .. 44.2
11/15 .. 05.2 .. 49.4
11/16 .. Rest
11/17 .. 05.0 .. 54.4
11/18 .. 03.2 .. 57.6
11/19 .. 03.1 .. 60.7
With a prospect of being able to race the 5k on Thanksgiving day, I ran some sort of an interval run on the 18th. On the 19th, I made it to run a faster tempo 5k before picking up my visiting sister at the airport. I could not make a long run yesterday like the past few weeks. I thought I could make up some of the miles today but it rained. With a mini trip planned after the race on Thanksgiving, I may not be able to make the mileage goal this month...
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I'm in Brooks ghost 9 now, but I'm leery of committing to a 12mm drop. I have some Mizuno Hitogami 3 coming this week with a 9 drop.
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November Running Totals (miles)
11/1 – 1.77 easy
11/2 – 2.09 easy
11/3 – 2.43 (1.67 + 0.76) easy
11/4 – rest day
11/5 – 2.60 easy
11/6 – 3.19 (2.60 + 0.59) easy
11/7 – rest day
11/8 – 2.15 easy
11/9 – 3.10 easy
11/10 – 2.04 easy
11/11 – rest day
11/12 – 3.70 easy
11/13 – 3.64 easy
11/14 – 3.05 easy
11/15 – 3.38 warmup + easy speed work
11/16 – rest day
11/17 – 4.76 warmup + easy speed work
11/18 – 4.25 easy + one stride
11/19 – 5.18 easy + one stride
11/20 – 5.00 easy to moderate
11/21 – 5.05 windy
November total to date – 57.38
Nominal Challenge Goal – 30 miles
Real Goals: Continue recovery. Complete Race with Grace 10K on Thanksgiving without setting recovery back, even if I have to walk most of it.
Today's notes – No jogging while the eggs cooked this morning. I didn't get back into the routine after a bit of morning cross-training:
Snow is a great time suck. Being retired is great. It means I don't have to deal with snow *and* be somewhere on time. By the time I was ready to face the day, it was 31° F (-0.5° C) and cloudy, with a reported 22 mph WNW wind and a few snowflakes in the air. Looking out the window, I saw that my street was clear including the tiny shoulders. I know that the broad shoulders on half the roads around the section to my west are cleared more consistently than my street, so I put on road shoes. Dressed for the weather, which shouldn't be too unlike yesterday's run.
I was cold going westbound. The Weather Channel said 22 mph WNW wind, but it was more like pure westerly, and there were gusts considerably stronger. The gusts were such that, on the southbound route I found some exposed areas where snow had drifted all the way across the road to make a slippery slush on the east shoulder. I could see it clearly in the daylight, and I could deal with it, so no big deal. Then I felt overdressed on the westbound segment, and I found more snow on shoulders and into the traffic lane on the final northbound stretch. But smart running plus some good luck with traffic allowing me to run in the traffic lane at key points kept me safe and vertical. Of course, if I'd worn my trail shoes I could have just run through the light snow and slush patches.
The recovering leg still isn't totally right, but it felt just a tiny bit better after the run today than after the run yesterday. I'm not ready to go out and run 10 miles just yet, but I can see a path to getting there.
2016 races:
January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:31:11
August 13, 2016 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:07 (5K PR)
September 4, 2016 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:31:37
September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY) DNF a mile from finish
October 15, 2016 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
October 22, 2016 Scare Brain Cancer Away 5K (East Rochester, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
December 10, 2016 USATF National Club Cross Country Championships 8K (Tallahassee, FL)
2017 races:
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)
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OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »I'm in Brooks ghost 9 now, but I'm leery of committing to a 12mm drop. I have some Mizuno Hitogami 3 coming this week with a 9 drop.
I like them, the fit is nice. I did have a problem with the heel rubbing, but I think that's solved with a change of socks. My gait is still off too.
I haven't worn the ghost before. These are my first pair. I had run in the cascadias before, then moved to a lighter more minimal shoe. But I'm having an issue with tendonitis, so I figured to try a shoe with more support.
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@MobyCarp That looks like the snow was protecting a sheet of ice underneath it.0
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@MobyCarp looks like you got some decent snow there.0
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Date:: :::: Miles :::: Nov total (goal = 75)
11/01/16 :::: 5.7 :::: 5.7
11/02/16 :::: 2.9 :::: 8.5
11/03/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 10.7
11/04/16 :::: 2.0 :::: 12.7
11/05/16 :::: 6.4 :::: 19.1
11/06/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 21.6
11/07/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
11/08/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
11/09/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 24.0
11/10/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 24.0
11/11/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 26.5
11/12/16 :::: 7.2 :::: 33.7
11/13/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 36.8
11/14/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 39.5
11/15/16 :::: 5.6 :::: 45.1
11/16/16 :::: 2.7 :::: 47.9
11/17/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 47.9
11/18/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 50.0
11/19/16 :::: 7.3 :::: 57.3
11/20/16 :::: 3.0 :::: 60.3
11/21/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 62.9
Treadmill run at the Y today. We've had about 17" of snow since yesterday morning. The roads are clear enough for driving but not for running and the wind is biting. I took Stella out for a short walk this morning and it was painful. Kind of a comedy of errors in getting this run in - I forgot my earbuds so I decided to stop at Target and pick up a new cheap pair. Get to the Y and realize that my ENTIRE water bottle spilled in my gym bag. Somehow my shoes were spared and I was already dressed to run so I just took out what I needed and headed in. And forgot the new headphones. And forgot the water bottle. I didn't want to go back out to the car so I just toughed it out without either. Good grief, my head is clearly not in the game today! In good news though I found my neck gaiter that I was searching for all weekend.
I hope someone stops shaking this snow globe tonight some time. I head out tomorrow for my Thanksgiving holiday week in Iowa. Not exactly the tropics but at least it's not supposed to snow there.
Upcoming races:
11/24 Turkey Trot 5k, Cedar Rapids IA
12/3 St. Nick Shuffle 5k, Syracuse NY
1/22 Chilly Chili 5k, Cazenovia NY
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I know there are some folks stalking this thread. Don't be shy. Jump on in and share your monthly goal!
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Date Miles today - Miles for November
11/1 9 miles - 9 << 5 above VT 4 below VT
11/1 5 miles - 14 << Daily Double 5 below VT
11/2 5 miles - 19 << 5 below VT
11/3 9.5 miles - 28.5 << 9.5 below VT
11/3 5 miles - 33.5 << Daily Double 5 miles below VT
11/4 5 miles - 38.5 << 1 mile above VT and 4 miles below VT
11/5 13 miles - 51.5
11/6 REST DAY
11/7 5 miles - 56.5 << 5 below VT
11/8 6.2 miles - 62.7 << 6.2 below VT
11/9 4 miles - 66.7 << 3.5 below VT
11/10 5 miles - 71.7 << 5 below VT
11/11 2 miles - 73.7 << easy shake out run
11/12 14.1 miles - 87.8 << HHM + 1 mi warmup
11/13 REST DAY
11/14 4 miles - 91.8 << easy recovery
11/15 7.3 miles - 99.1
11/16 4 miles - 103.1
11/17 8 miles - 111.1 << ~3 miles above VT & 5 miles below VT
11/18 4 miles - 115.1
11/19 20 miles - 135.1
11/20 REST DAY
11/21 8 miles - 143.1
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12 << 1:35:55 2 in AG & 25 OA
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10
Late getting this out. Finally broke out the long tights this morning. First taper week for RCM.
@kristinegift Last year when I knew I wasn't ready to BQ, it took a lot of air out of me cause I knew all the hard work I did, and it meant another year of more hard work that I wasn't looking forward to. You may not be ready to evaluate next season yet, but when you are ready, some things to consider.
You did say that the course itself was bad. That may be very true. I saw your total elevation gain on strava and it said over 400 ft. That's not exactly flat. Maybe a change in scenery will do it for you. I am already looking at the Kentucky Derby Marathon in April for my just in case. It's in late April and only has a little over 200 feet gain total.
There may be some flatter ones closer to you. Anyway, take some time. You have many months to still BQ for next year. And like you said, it's not going anywhere. So if you decide to wait another year or so, that's up to you.
As others said, you did great. Still a great time for a challenging course. No one can fault you in all the prep you did for this.
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