The Walking Dead
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Oxytocin_Panda wrote: »Negan has ascended. I wonder if we will get the back story on him? a low level employee pre-pandemic?
Hadn't even thought of that!
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There's his backstory special in the comics. I haven't seen it on a website where comics are posted, but someone uploaded it to Youtube if you're interested.Oxytocin_Panda wrote: »Negan has ascended. I wonder if we will get the back story on him? a low level employee pre-pandemic?0 -
CooCooPuff wrote: »
There's his backstory special in the comics. I haven't seen it on a website where comics are posted, but someone uploaded it to Youtube if you're interested.Oxytocin_Panda wrote: »Negan has ascended. I wonder if we will get the back story on him? a low level employee pre-pandemic?
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Absolutely loving series 7. Can't wait for shiva to start munching on some saviours!0
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Heard a sound bite from Jeffrey Dean Morgan mentioning that fans that do not follow the illustrated comic version must be wondering where they are going with all the other stories like Tara, Carol & Maggie...apparently it will start to make sense the next 2 weeks. Possible teaming up of the different communities that all share a common enemy in the Saviors?0
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I totally want to bang Negan. Favorite character on the show so far.
And seeing Carl's janky eye hole made my stomach turn.
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Neegan is a joy to watch. He actually makes me anxious, never knowing whether he's gong to snap. Him worth Judith was creepy and adorable.0
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Judith doesn't exist this deep in the comics so that was interesting. Negan doesn't hurt women or kids, but he's still a psyco. Also interesting.0
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I was working when the show aired, so I had to avoid this thread until I could watch the DVR. I think Negan is supposed to be someone who respects strength and courage. He takes delight in torturing and killing people who cry and grovel (even though that is what he demands of them). He seems to respect those without the fear to stand up to him. Even though he goes on to try to mentally break them, he doesn't kill them.
I think Negan is going to eventually get killed by one of his own guys.0 -
but they said he killed all the boys 10 and older. I think he has a weak spot for girls and women because of his past.0 -
He had a weak spot for Carl too. No, Negan won't kill a kid. I don't know what happened at the seaside camp. But Negan doesn't kill kids or women. I am also 100% sure of what happens to Negan in the end. If you want to know.0
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I am really starting to get annoyed with the writers. I feel like they underestimate the intelligence of viewers. They really expect us to continue to believe that all of these people went to kill Negan and then changed their minds?! It isn't that they failed due to circumstances beyond their control. Rick was following Negan around holding Lucille, in some instances far enough away from Negan's helpers... even if Rick thought they are super loyal to Negan, he had opportunity and didn't take it. Same goes for Carl. He has opportunity. Sure, he would have had to shoot yet another of Negan's helpers, but he is obviously risking his own life. So why the hesitation?! As others have mentioned, Daryl had opportunity too. Now if Michonne does the same - she gets a real chance to kill Negan and chooses not to take it - I'm going to be really upset with the writers.0
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silverfiend wrote: »
but they said he killed all the boys 10 and older. I think he has a weak spot for girls and women because of his past.
because he marries them all apparently.......he's not a nice guy lol
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midwesterner85 wrote: »I am really starting to get annoyed with the writers. I feel like they underestimate the intelligence of viewers. They really expect us to continue to believe that all of these people went to kill Negan and then changed their minds?! It isn't that they failed due to circumstances beyond their control. Rick was following Negan around holding Lucille, in some instances far enough away from Negan's helpers... even if Rick thought they are super loyal to Negan, he had opportunity and didn't take it. Same goes for Carl. He has opportunity. Sure, he would have had to shoot yet another of Negan's helpers, but he is obviously risking his own life. So why the hesitation?! As others have mentioned, Daryl had opportunity too. Now if Michonne does the same - she gets a real chance to kill Negan and chooses not to take it - I'm going to be really upset with the writers.
That. Exactly what you said. Too many people with weapons so close to Negan. Like you said about Carl, he assumed it was a suicide mission anyway, so he should have followed through before Negan could start talking and playing head games. He had no qualms like Rick did about retaliation from the larger group.
It's hard to watch, and not for reasons they want it to be. I'm like, this is too stupid to be fully engaged in.2 -
silverfiend wrote: »I think Negan is going to eventually get killed by one of his own guys.
^^ This. They showed enough of Dwight this season to bring him back down the road. You can't watch your partner taken from you and flaunted in your face without eventually snapping. You even saw him deep in thought.
Perhaps in a melee he takes the opportunity to take him out?
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People still want to live. Emotion may take over and hinder one's decision making, but there's always the will to survive. I think of it as anyone in a gang. They may not like the gang leader and COULD likely take them out any time, but why don't they? Wouldn't the gang be better for it and shouldn't the followers feel better? But for some reason, every leader in a gang leaves enough fear in followers not to do it.midwesterner85 wrote: »I am really starting to get annoyed with the writers. I feel like they underestimate the intelligence of viewers. They really expect us to continue to believe that all of these people went to kill Negan and then changed their minds?! It isn't that they failed due to circumstances beyond their control. Rick was following Negan around holding Lucille, in some instances far enough away from Negan's helpers... even if Rick thought they are super loyal to Negan, he had opportunity and didn't take it. Same goes for Carl. He has opportunity. Sure, he would have had to shoot yet another of Negan's helpers, but he is obviously risking his own life. So why the hesitation?! As others have mentioned, Daryl had opportunity too. Now if Michonne does the same - she gets a real chance to kill Negan and chooses not to take it - I'm going to be really upset with the writers.
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I'm really not feeling this Rick and Michonne relationship. I feel like they have zero sexual chemistry. Both are great actors, but they just don't seem to 'click' like a couple. They seem more like brother and sister.
JDM as Negan...OMFG - he's so stickin' cute.
I hope the writers follow the comics...because the Negan story gets really interesting.2 -
AskTracyAnnK28 wrote: »I'm really not feeling this Rick and Michonne relationship. I feel like they have zero sexual chemistry. Both are great actors, but they just don't seem to 'click' like a couple. They seem more like brother and sister.
JDM as Negan...OMFG - he's so stickin' cute.
I hope the writers follow the comics...because the Negan story gets really interesting.AskTracyAnnK28 wrote: »I'm really not feeling this Rick and Michonne relationship. I feel like they have zero sexual chemistry. Both are great actors, but they just don't seem to 'click' like a couple. They seem more like brother and sister.
JDM as Negan...OMFG - he's so stickin' cute.
I hope the writers follow the comics...because the Negan story gets really interesting.
I had my own critique of how they rolled out Rickchonne, but thinking about what they wanted Rickchonne to be and WHY, it makes sense.
They've been building the Rickshonne thing since she arrived with the baby formula.
Think about it.
She arrives, saves Judith.
He won't give her up to save Hershel from the governor.
After the group is scattered after the governor, Michonne, Rick and Carl end up finding each other and being in the same house. That was your biggest clue.
Her and Rick go in the same car to Alexandria.
She knocks him out to protect him from himself in Alexandria.
She saves Carl.
Carl essentially calls her his mother and that he loves her and gave his consent to Rickchonne when he discussed the man taking care of his mother.
You saw what Rick did to his girlfriend he had all that chemistry with in Alexandria to save Carl. Yet, when he saw one lock of Michonne's hair, he put the whole group in danger with Neegan's group.
The Rickchonne thing is not sexual or romantic. It's deeper and can withstand the circumstances.
In the fictional world they inhabit, sex and romance would quickly fizzle because of the amount of pain they face, as you see with the other romances they've done, the one exception being Glenn and Maggie.
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I'm really going to miss JDM's beard man.0
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I get the feeling that Negan is surprised that his bullѕhit works.-1
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I'm really not enjoying season 7, I'm getting bored of nobody taking out Negan despite plenty of opportunities.
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PlaydohPants wrote: »
People still want to live. Emotion may take over and hinder one's decision making, but there's always the will to survive. I think of it as anyone in a gang. They may not like the gang leader and COULD likely take them out any time, but why don't they? Wouldn't the gang be better for it and shouldn't the followers feel better? But for some reason, every leader in a gang leaves enough fear in followers not to do it.midwesterner85 wrote: »I am really starting to get annoyed with the writers. I feel like they underestimate the intelligence of viewers. They really expect us to continue to believe that all of these people went to kill Negan and then changed their minds?! It isn't that they failed due to circumstances beyond their control. Rick was following Negan around holding Lucille, in some instances far enough away from Negan's helpers... even if Rick thought they are super loyal to Negan, he had opportunity and didn't take it. Same goes for Carl. He has opportunity. Sure, he would have had to shoot yet another of Negan's helpers, but he is obviously risking his own life. So why the hesitation?! As others have mentioned, Daryl had opportunity too. Now if Michonne does the same - she gets a real chance to kill Negan and chooses not to take it - I'm going to be really upset with the writers.
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This is correct. The writers actually did a lot of research on leadership tactics and group dynamics like this and when done right, like Negan does, it instills enough fear in the followers that even if they could take him out they won't.I've *heard*, but don't follow, the comics suggest there is no big payoff with Negan "getting his comeuppance". But it does seem like the show is building towards Dwight doing something.I would argue what ends up happening to him is worse... At least for a few years. He's too dang fun to just kill off willy nilly
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thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I am really starting to get annoyed with the writers. I feel like they underestimate the intelligence of viewers. They really expect us to continue to believe that all of these people went to kill Negan and then changed their minds?! It isn't that they failed due to circumstances beyond their control. Rick was following Negan around holding Lucille, in some instances far enough away from Negan's helpers... even if Rick thought they are super loyal to Negan, he had opportunity and didn't take it. Same goes for Carl. He has opportunity. Sure, he would have had to shoot yet another of Negan's helpers, but he is obviously risking his own life. So why the hesitation?! As others have mentioned, Daryl had opportunity too. Now if Michonne does the same - she gets a real chance to kill Negan and chooses not to take it - I'm going to be really upset with the writers.
That. Exactly what you said. Too many people with weapons so close to Negan. Like you said about Carl, he assumed it was a suicide mission anyway, so he should have followed through before Negan could start talking and playing head games. He had no qualms like Rick did about retaliation from the larger group.
It's hard to watch, and not for reasons they want it to be. I'm like, this is too stupid to be fully engaged in.
Those close to Negan don't see him as evil, but necessary to maintain order and stay alive in this new environment. Negan is the evolution of Shane without Rick as a check and balance. Everyone sees Dwight's face as a constant reminder of what happens if you break Negan's rules. He doesn't just kill you - he keeps you alive and makes everyone else suffer for it. You may risk your own life, but you won't risk the lives of those you love. This is what Negan knows and is constantly throwing in the face of others. By keeping everyone off balance he maintains his place at the top.
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I don't think his inner circle fears him. His "soldiers" fear him and his inner circle. His inner circle is loyal because he treats them just well enough that they are ok with having him in charge. They don't like him, but they know he will feed them, provide shelter, women, etc. so they put up with his crap. Although its looking more and more like Dwight might betray Negan..im guessing (purely speculation)..that all the outside groups join forces to get rid of Negan and they use Dwight to help.0
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Omg Daryl with the peanut butter!2
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RIP Spencer lol0
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Finally an episode this season that wasn't infuriatingly stupid!2
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thisonetimeatthegym wrote: »Finally an episode this season that wasn't infuriatingly stupid!
Idk, Rosita is looking like a not so bright person right now. Point blank range and she still missed..........2
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