14.5 bmi is this too low?
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trigden1991 wrote: »Then why say it? Why include it in your advice?
If this was your kid wouldn't you be livid if anyone said anything to reinforce that it could possibly be OK to be concerned about bodyfat at a dangerously low BMI ?
I would be.
Apologies. His doctor told him he could damage his body by adding calories and fats too quickly. He should definitely add on weight.
Body fat percentage is different than BMI. I found a body fat percentage chart in this article:
http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/
Healthy body fat range for him would be between 8-19% body fat.
He is severely under-weight so bodyfat is not the concern here.
I think that he wants to build muscle is all I am saying. He needs to gain weight. That is a given. Will you P.M. him to help find out his objectives? BMI under 18 is dangerous, correct? I don't think that he is eating enough to meet TDEE. He is seeing doctor after Christmas, so maybe he can give him a regime.
His p-ratio is extremely positive for muscle building at his BF% so even if he doesn't touch a weight he will gained a good portion of his weight in muscle.1 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »Then why say it? Why include it in your advice?
If this was your kid wouldn't you be livid if anyone said anything to reinforce that it could possibly be OK to be concerned about bodyfat at a dangerously low BMI ?
I would be.
Apologies. His doctor told him he could damage his body by adding calories and fats too quickly. He should definitely add on weight.
Body fat percentage is different than BMI. I found a body fat percentage chart in this article:
http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/
Healthy body fat range for him would be between 8-19% body fat.
He is severely under-weight so bodyfat is not the concern here.
I think that he wants to build muscle is all I am saying. He needs to gain weight. That is a given. Will you P.M. him to help find out his objectives? BMI under 18 is dangerous, correct? I don't think that he is eating enough to meet TDEE. He is seeing doctor after Christmas, so maybe he can give him a regime.
His p-ratio is extremely positive for muscle building at his BF% so even if he doesn't touch a weight he will gained a good portion of his weight in muscle.
I think that he will do great! He has a lot of potential. You have a lot of knowledge on this subject.
ETA: Here are some helpful ideas for gaining weight:
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/Underweightadults.aspx
OP, definitely stay under doctor supervision and keep getting vitals and blood checked.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »Then why say it? Why include it in your advice?
If this was your kid wouldn't you be livid if anyone said anything to reinforce that it could possibly be OK to be concerned about bodyfat at a dangerously low BMI ?
I would be.
Apologies. His doctor told him he could damage his body by adding calories and fats too quickly. He should definitely add on weight.
Body fat percentage is different than BMI. I found a body fat percentage chart in this article:
http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/
Healthy body fat range for him would be between 8-19% body fat.
He is severely under-weight so bodyfat is not the concern here.
I think that he wants to build muscle is all I am saying. He needs to gain weight. That is a given. Will you P.M. him to help find out his objectives? BMI under 18 is dangerous, correct? I don't think that he is eating enough to meet TDEE. He is seeing doctor after Christmas, so maybe he can give him a regime.
His p-ratio is extremely positive for muscle building at his BF% so even if he doesn't touch a weight he will gained a good portion of his weight in muscle.
I think that he will do great! He has a lot of potential. You have a lot of knowledge on this subject.
Hopefully the OP will show up in the Weight Gain section where there are a lot of knowledgeable posters who can help him.1 -
My advice...follow what your doctor is telling you. I think too much advice from too many people can lead to information over-load when first trying to correct health issues. Once you have things under control somewhat and have a base core of knowledge then seek help from experienced people to reach your long term goals.
When I first started here at this site I read comments and then went and researched for myself.
For the short-term...listen to your doctor.4 -
My advice...follow what your doctor is telling you. I think too much advice from too many people can lead to information over-load when first trying to correct health issues. Once you have things under control somewhat and have a base core of knowledge then seek help from experienced people to reach your long term goals.
When I first started here at this site I read comments and then went and researched for myself.
For the short-term...listen to your doctor.
Good advice!0 -
I am trying to eat more but I think I might have a slight lactose intolerance as I eat cereal for breakfast and when I'm at work I feel a bit bloated and gassy. Im trying to get myself into a routine of eating and gym as the two lend to each other I'm just finding really hard to get to that point0
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Nothing came up in the second set of blood tests so now I've gotta have a chest x-ray but I don't know what their looking for0
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Rogue my friend: more food till you start gaining weight and get above a bmi of 20. Then we can talk about being concerned whether you're adding fat or muscle. And as someone mentioned, given your age, a good part of any weight you put on will be muscle regardless of whether you hit the gym. Not to mention that your work involves lifting things.... So .. eat more and worry about the gym less.12
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You're young OP, take advantage of being able to eat lots and get away with it, because it wont last forever.1
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RogueDeer5 wrote: »I am trying to eat more but I think I might have a slight lactose intolerance as I eat cereal for breakfast and when I'm at work I feel a bit bloated and gassy. Im trying to get myself into a routine of eating and gym as the two lend to each other I'm just finding really hard to get to that point
So eat things that have no lactose. Get some nuts, some nut butter, easy high calorie foods to take in. Have you gained any weight at all since you started this thread?5 -
Christine_72 wrote: »You're young OP, take advantage of being able to eat lots and get away with it, because it wont last forever.
Those were the days, my friend. People told me about it when I was in my 20s, but I didn't believe them because I was too busy burning off calories. Lol.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »You're young OP, take advantage of being able to eat lots and get away with it, because it wont last forever.
Those were the days, my friend. People told me about it when I was in my 20s, but I didn't believe them because I was too busy burning off calories. Lol.
but he doesnt eat lots that is the problem5 -
I read you think you may be lactose intolerant? Unfortunately it is more likely to be casein intolerant, its far more common than people think, we out number those who are lactose intolerant. I find using goat milk products suit me better. Casein comes in 4 variants, normal bovine, cow is predominantly type 1. Goat is predominantly type 2. There are also types 3 and 4, these are common to most milk and do not seem to be in large enough amounts to cause problems. There is also A2 milk, which is cow but it has dominant type 2 casein defined by testing. If you try goat or A2 milk you could find you feel better, and were there lactose issues as well these would probably subside because the body is not under so much digestive pressure.0
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Christine_72 wrote: »You're young OP, take advantage of being able to eat lots and get away with it, because it wont last forever.
Those were the days, my friend. People told me about it when I was in my 20s, but I didn't believe them because I was too busy burning off calories. Lol.
PLEASE STOP
You keep posting positively about weight loss and calorie burns on a thread where is it wholly inappropriate
Take some of your maternal instinct and use it appropriately to support a young man who needs weight GAIN support
This young man is severely underweight and clearly struggling emotionally with increasing his calories
Think before you post ..please27 -
RogueDeer5 wrote: »I am trying to eat more but I think I might have a slight lactose intolerance as I eat cereal for breakfast and when I'm at work I feel a bit bloated and gassy. Im trying to get myself into a routine of eating and gym as the two lend to each other I'm just finding really hard to get to that point
Small and often and highly dense calories
Nuts, sweets, crisps, chips anything you can think of to get your weight up1 -
^Yes. Also:
Work your way up. You won't be able to stuff your face from one day to another, you'll just get full and nauseous. Slowly increase your food intake over time.4 -
How are you with mince pies? These are small, calorie dense and everywhere so you can happily swipe a few from communal boxes as and when and that will help over the next couple of weeks at least!2
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RogueDeer5 wrote: »I am trying to eat more but I think I might have a slight lactose intolerance as I eat cereal for breakfast and when I'm at work I feel a bit bloated and gassy. Im trying to get myself into a routine of eating and gym as the two lend to each other I'm just finding really hard to get to that point
Could it be the gluten? A celiac often ends up malnourished and overly thin because their intestinal wall is damaged and they can not absorb nutrients well. It also causes lactose intolerance in most too.
Just an idea. Good luck.0 -
RogueDeer5 wrote: »Nothing came up in the second set of blood tests so now I've gotta have a chest x-ray but I don't know what their looking for
he's probably looking at several things, but walking pneumonia would be one that would explain sudden weight loss with few other symptoms and would show up on a chest x-ray
it can be really frustrating to be constantly sent for tests and more tests and more tests, but the doctor will try to rule out the most likely causes first, so multiple rounds of testing are pretty common in my experience
hang in there and keep eating more!2 -
RogueDeer5 wrote: »I am trying to eat more but I think I might have a slight lactose intolerance as I eat cereal for breakfast and when I'm at work I feel a bit bloated and gassy. Im trying to get myself into a routine of eating and gym as the two lend to each other I'm just finding really hard to get to that point
Could it be the gluten? A celiac often ends up malnourished and overly thin because their intestinal wall is damaged and they can not absorb nutrients well. It also causes lactose intolerance in most too.
Just an idea. Good luck.
That's what I was wondering also.0
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