what NOT to eat
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Hearts_2015 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »
I concur! Steak sounds good but the cake looks good! So both it is! 1600 for a 7 layer piece of cake doesn't sound that bad plus sharing is caring.
Or save half for the next day
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ConnieT1030 wrote: »flagrantavidity wrote: »Imma say it, don't eat the chocolate tower truffle cake, at 1,600 calories - not worth it.
Oh man. Im pretty sure what you just did was illegal. Or should be. Now Im crying because I dont have anything remotely close to this, and when my hubby gets home from work, the store will be closed
(I edited the pic out so as not to torment myself- or others- any more. You realize that thing is 300 over my *entire* calorie budget?! I think i hate you =P
But it's 6 layers... you could eat one layer and some of the whipped creme and it was be a nice treat and pretty yummy and fit in nicely in your budget. Or 2 layers.. not knowing your budget I won't suggest 3. 0 -
Here's a steak on a calorie restricted diet.
http://www.foodcoach.me/2014/11/18/carne-asada-steak-salad/
And the brownie to go with it (100 calls)
http://www.skinnytaste.com/brownie-bites-2-points/3 -
riffraff2112 wrote: »As most everyone has mentioned, you can do this by eating anything and avoiding nothing. It is all about calories, so log accurately.
There certainly are foods that are packed with calories, or salt and are tough to fit into a budget but no one is advising you to stuff your face with those things. Moderation
Yep. This is all anyone is saying. There is no food that everyone "should" cut out in order to be successful. You might find there is some stuff you need to avoid, but they will be different for everyone and many won't need to give up anything at all. Not sure why anyone would think that is unhelpful or disingenuous. If you asked every person in this thread who has already reached goal (and there are many of them) they would probably each have a different type of food that they needed to keep out of the house. For me, it's those canisters of roasted nuts, I can eat 1000 cals worth in a sitting. I do fine with 100 grams of ice cream or a couple of slices of pizza, but a jar of nuts is irresistible to me. And none of the posts in this thread saying which foods to avoid mentioned nuts, go figure!
Excellent point. I use to buy the unsalted mixed nuts from Costco. I are way too many. I tried just fillibg a dixie cup in the morning and snacking on that throughout the day and tha5 worked for a whole. I found tue best thing I could do for myself is not have them around.1 -
riffraff2112 wrote: »As most everyone has mentioned, you can do this by eating anything and avoiding nothing. It is all about calories, so log accurately.
There certainly are foods that are packed with calories, or salt and are tough to fit into a budget but no one is advising you to stuff your face with those things. Moderation
Yep. This is all anyone is saying. There is no food that everyone "should" cut out in order to be successful. You might find there is some stuff you need to avoid, but they will be different for everyone and many won't need to give up anything at all. Not sure why anyone would think that is unhelpful or disingenuous. If you asked every person in this thread who has already reached goal (and there are many of them) they would probably each have a different type of food that they needed to keep out of the house. For me, it's those canisters of roasted nuts, I can eat 1000 cals worth in a sitting. I do fine with 100 grams of ice cream or a couple of slices of pizza, but a jar of nuts is irresistible to me. And none of the posts in this thread saying which foods to avoid mentioned nuts, go figure!
Excellent point. I use to buy the unsalted mixed nuts from Costco. I are way too many. I tried just filling a Dixie cup in the morning and snacking on that throughout the day and tha5 worked for a whole. I found tue best thing I could do for myself is not have them around.
I buy the lb bag of raw unsalted almonds and lb. bag of raw unsalted walnuts from Trader Joe's. Those haven't been a problem for me, I weigh them on my food scale and zip them in baggies then toss them in the fridge or freezer for later use. I usually do a bunch up a time so there's always some around to grab and go to be able to toss in the car or gym bag etc. Typically I weigh out 1/2 servings to save some fats for later for other things
Those two I don't have an issue with binging on but something like cashews or salted sunflower seeds (I buy raw unsalted ones for salads or sandwiches/wraps) or pistachios or salted nuts of any type in a can I don't typically buy or keep around. Same as a few of you mentioned up above, too easy to begin eating and suddenly you look down and WHOA... way more than you planned are gone! :laugh:
Oh and the mixed nuts in in a can? Nope, can't keep those around too long so I don't keep them in the house. If I'm out and looking for quick protein I'll pick up a small bag of nuts from a Kwik Mart station and have some with an apple.1 -
Don't eat cake, ice cream, maple syrup, candy, donuts, potato chips, cookies, juices, bagels and stay away from sodas.
This. Sugar makes you hungrier cause you get an insulin spike and then your blood sugar drops and you get hungry again. If you count your cals and have a deficit that will work but that will be much harder if you eat sugar IMO.2 -
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also...
Chocolate ice cream can only be eaten 2x weekly, a small french fry once in a while only because they don't don't contain sugar or chemicals..[/quote]
damn, I did it again!
I'm screwed guys - I had vanilla ice cream last night. TWICE!
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But did you juice it to get rid of all the toxinz???
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Christine_72 wrote: »OP my only advice is to avoid foods that you know you cant moderate and that inevitably end up sending you over your calories. I have a few foods which i have very rarely, because i struggle to eat them in moderation.
Stuff like Cheescake, peanut butter cups, peanut butter, cheerios.
We have the exact same palette.
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Don't eat cake, ice cream, maple syrup, candy, donuts, potato chips, cookies, juices, bagels and stay away from sodas.
This. Sugar makes you hungrier cause you get an insulin spike and then your blood sugar drops and you get hungry again. If you count your cals and have a deficit that will work but that will be much harder if you eat sugar IMO.
Meh... not for me. I eat sugar and it doesn't increase my appetite. I also do IF.5 -
Personally I try to limit overly processed foods. I read ingredients determining if I could even pronounce the words. If I can't I put it back.1
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everyusernamewastakenso wrote: »Personally I try to limit overly processed foods. I read ingredients determining if I could even pronounce the words. If I can't I put it back.
That doesn't always work for me.
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everyusernamewastakenso wrote: »Personally I try to limit overly processed foods. I read ingredients determining if I could even pronounce the words. If I can't I put it back.
The level of education is not a great way of determining if an ingredient is 'safe' or not, though. If it was, then scientists and those who had an affinity for pronouncing difficult words would be able to eat the food, while others would not. Many common foods, plants and animals actually have hard to pronounce names, especially if you go as far as taxonomy. What about foreign foods? Some are difficult to pronounce.
Everything is made up of chemicals.
I wonder how many cannot pronounce dihydrogen monoxide?9 -
cerise_noir wrote: »everyusernamewastakenso wrote: »Personally I try to limit overly processed foods. I read ingredients determining if I could even pronounce the words. If I can't I put it back.
The level of education is not a great way of determining if an ingredient is 'safe' or not, though. If it was, then scientists and those who had an affinity for pronouncing difficult words would be able to eat the food, while others would not. Many common foods, plants and animals actually have hard to pronounce names, especially if you go as far as taxonomy. What about foreign foods? Some are difficult to pronounce.
Everything is made up of chemicals.
I wonder how many cannot pronounce dihydrogen monoxide?
Quinoa is kind of hard to pronounce. So is carne de res con cebolla, if you don't happen to speak Spanish.4 -
How difficult something is to pronounce is probably the silliest way I know of to determine whether you should eat something or not, and is only marginally more accurate than throwing the product at a wall and seeing if it sticks.
I have a background in chemistry, does than mean I can safely eat anything? What about dimethylmercury? Hydrochloric acid? Dimethylmorphine? Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid?
Take for instance deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA), desmosterol (a cholesterol precursor), 7-dehydrocholesterol (another cholesterol precursor and a precursor to vitamin D) - all perfectly safe to eat.
And I'm a big fan of this one:
Stop bitching about "chemicals". It's *kitten* fearmongering.11 -
I said personally... what works for me might work for others. And I don't look up the ingredients for natural foods i.e. fruits.2
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During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
yea, I ate all those things, lost 50 pounds, and got to sub 15% body fat....I must be a freak of nature...
Not at all! It's just that your way isn't THE ONLY WAY! Your way worked for you and it would work for many others. But it might not work for someone else. So you don't need to blast anyone else's opinions in order to validate your own.
That's the point.
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WinoGelato wrote: »During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
I lost that same amount of weight and never gave any of those things up. Well other than sugary soda, I wasn't drinking those to begin with.
I'm always perplexed why pizza gets such a bad rap. Depending on the toppings, it can be a macro balanced meal, especially if one eats salad with a couple of slices. Really not hard to work that in on a regular basis if it's something you enjoy.
Surely you gave up on something, else you would not give up calories and gave up weight, right?
Going for pizza, I will not restrict the pleasure of a Domino's Pizza by restricting its content, IMHO I prefer just to pass until I go for maintenance regime (still 10 kilos away).
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I have another huge list of things I definitively will NEVER eat while on regime. They can be summarize in the following two directives:
- Anything that I DO NOT LIKE.
- Anything I like but I can't really enjoy due to ration size
So, for example:
- I do not eat fat free or "light" alternatives like light creamcheese, or lowfat milk or light mayonnaise.
- I love nuts, but I will never eat just a handfull of them.
- Pizza, one or two slices are never enough. I prefer to pass
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WinoGelato wrote: »During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
I lost that same amount of weight and never gave any of those things up. Well other than sugary soda, I wasn't drinking those to begin with.
I'm always perplexed why pizza gets such a bad rap. Depending on the toppings, it can be a macro balanced meal, especially if one eats salad with a couple of slices. Really not hard to work that in on a regular basis if it's something you enjoy.
Surely you gave up on something, else you would not give up calories and gave up weight, right?
Going for pizza, I will not restrict the pleasure of a Domino's Pizza by restricting its content, IMHO I prefer just to pass until I go for maintenance regime (still 10 kilos away).
Personally, I think it's odd that people see Dominos as good pizza. I think the kind of pizza winogelato is (possibly) talking about is much tastier. I never ate Dominos before losing and don't now -- I do love a thin crust pizza with a variety of vegetables and sometimes some proscuitto or an egg, etc., from an Italian place, and I also occasionally enjoy a local delivery place or an occasional Chicago style (not big on sausage or pepperoni, always like spinach and mushrooms and olives, etc.).
Not saying my taste is better than yours or that Dominos can't be enjoyed within the context of a nutritious diet (of course it can), but assuming what "pizza" involves or that eating some other kind of pizza is a sacrifice (or restricting pleasure) is wrong.
Similarly, I usually prefer eating some salad and less pizza (and having more pizza for later). I get having some meals that you just want to eat in an unrestricted way and so eating less often, though -- I'm like this about Indian food. (I still wouldn't tell OP or anyone else not to eat Indian when dieting, though, as that would be ridiculous -- no reason to assume my reasons would apply to others, and besides if you exercise or plan it's possible to fit in occasional indulgent days even when losing. Probably makes maintenance easier by learning to do that and not thinking how you eat on maintenance is totally different.)1 -
During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
yea, I ate all those things, lost 50 pounds, and got to sub 15% body fat....I must be a freak of nature...
Not at all! It's just that your way isn't THE ONLY WAY! Your way worked for you and it would work for many others. But it might not work for someone else. So you don't need to blast anyone else's opinions in order to validate your own.
That's the point.
When you (not specifically you, but all saying "don't eat this" in answer to the question) purport to tell others what NOT to eat (the topic of the thread) aren't you inherently telling them what to do and NOT simply talking about what worked for you (which is individual). The thread topic asked for that, so IMO the correct answer is that no one else can tell her what not to eat.
There are tons of things I never eat (Domino's pizza, as noted above), because for me they aren't tasty or aren't ever worth the calories. I'd never tell OP not to eat them, because why should I assume my reasons would apply for her? Also, I don't tell myself I don't eat them, I just never want to -- if all of a sudden they seemed worth the calories for some reason, I would.6 -
WinoGelato wrote: »During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
I lost that same amount of weight and never gave any of those things up. Well other than sugary soda, I wasn't drinking those to begin with.
I'm always perplexed why pizza gets such a bad rap. Depending on the toppings, it can be a macro balanced meal, especially if one eats salad with a couple of slices. Really not hard to work that in on a regular basis if it's something you enjoy.
Surely you gave up on something, else you would not give up calories and gave up weight, right?
Going for pizza, I will not restrict the pleasure of a Domino's Pizza by restricting its content, IMHO I prefer just to pass until I go for maintenance regime (still 10 kilos away).
No, I took the approach of not giving up any specific foods that I loved when I started here almost four years ago. I cut down on the frequency of consumption of some foods, I cut back on portion sizes, there are some foods that I look at and think "that's not worth the calories, I'm going to skip that", and there are some foods I think "I'd love to have that but I don't have room for it today, I'm going to work it in later this week". But I still eat things like bakery treats, pizza, fast food, ice cream, and wine/beer... so no I would say I didn't give up anything.
I do still eat Dominos pizza though it isn't my favorite, my kids like it and it's easy. Even if I eat sausage pizza with the kids, I can fit in two slices and some Parmesan bites with a salad I make myself and be under 800 cals. I actually prefer a Naples style margherita pizza or one that I make at home with pesto instead of tomato sauce, grilled chicken, artichoke hearts, red peppers and feta cheese. It's actually pretty calorific but quite tasty.1 -
Don't eat cake, ice cream, maple syrup, candy, donuts, potato chips, cookies, juices, bagels and stay away from sodas.
This. Sugar makes you hungrier cause you get an insulin spike and then your blood sugar drops and you get hungry again. If you count your cals and have a deficit that will work but that will be much harder if you eat sugar IMO.
Perhaps if you were building a diet exclusively from these things that would be a concern, but when I eat these foods it is usually in combination with other things so this purported insulin spike either doesn't happen or I seem to be not significantly impacted by this imminent hunger.4 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Don't eat cake, ice cream, maple syrup, candy, donuts, potato chips, cookies, juices, bagels and stay away from sodas.
This. Sugar makes you hungrier cause you get an insulin spike and then your blood sugar drops and you get hungry again. If you count your cals and have a deficit that will work but that will be much harder if you eat sugar IMO.
Perhaps if you were building a diet exclusively from these things that would be a concern, but when I eat these foods it is usually in combination with other things so this purported insulin spike either doesn't happen or I seem to be not significantly impacted by this imminent hunger.
I do IF and I've eaten sugar at the end of my meal time and have lost weight doing that. Recently I've been struggling with gout and gave up sugar to see if that would help and it has helped a lot I believe (better in a couple of days after a month long attack) and I lost 2-lbs over the Christmas Holiday even though I ate a lot but didn't have any straight sugary stuff whatsoever (I tried this starting just before Christmas). That loss tells me that my eating sugar might have been slowing my weight loss down. I don't think it was just getting rid of extra cals because I ate a lot of cheese instead and put down a lot of cals. I'm going to keep experimenting and see what happens.
The sugar causing hunger isn't a thing if I eat it at the end of the day after my meals. If I eat something sugary for breakfast or cheat on my fasting, it definitely will cause a lot of hunger that way.0 -
Don't eat cake, ice cream, maple syrup, candy, donuts, potato chips, cookies, juices, bagels and stay away from sodas.
This. Sugar makes you hungrier cause you get an insulin spike and then your blood sugar drops and you get hungry again. If you count your cals and have a deficit that will work but that will be much harder if you eat sugar IMO.
are you avoiding protein too becuase insulin spikes?2 -
During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
yea, I ate all those things, lost 50 pounds, and got to sub 15% body fat....I must be a freak of nature...
Not at all! It's just that your way isn't THE ONLY WAY! Your way worked for you and it would work for many others. But it might not work for someone else. So you don't need to blast anyone else's opinions in order to validate your own.
i ate in a calorie deficit, that works for everyone.
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WinoGelato wrote: »During the first phases of weight loss (I am in the 4th month and reduced 16 Kgs/ 35 pounds), there are difinitively things I recommend to forget:
- Sugar of any kind (even brown or honey): they add calories we don't need, I only use sweeteners 0 cals.
- Sodas of any kind and even boxed juices. They are like water with sugar (see previous). From time to time (max 2 per week) some 0 cals soda
- Any cakes or industrial bakery: glucose shots that will unbalance you on spot.
- Pizza
Besides above, I won't eliminate anything else.
I lost that same amount of weight and never gave any of those things up. Well other than sugary soda, I wasn't drinking those to begin with.
I'm always perplexed why pizza gets such a bad rap. Depending on the toppings, it can be a macro balanced meal, especially if one eats salad with a couple of slices. Really not hard to work that in on a regular basis if it's something you enjoy.
Surely you gave up on something, else you would not give up calories and gave up weight, right?
Going for pizza, I will not restrict the pleasure of a Domino's Pizza by restricting its content, IMHO I prefer just to pass until I go for maintenance regime (still 10 kilos away).
she gave up eating over maintenance....not sure why that is so hard to understand.4 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Don't eat cake, ice cream, maple syrup, candy, donuts, potato chips, cookies, juices, bagels and stay away from sodas.
This. Sugar makes you hungrier cause you get an insulin spike and then your blood sugar drops and you get hungry again. If you count your cals and have a deficit that will work but that will be much harder if you eat sugar IMO.
Perhaps if you were building a diet exclusively from these things that would be a concern, but when I eat these foods it is usually in combination with other things so this purported insulin spike either doesn't happen or I seem to be not significantly impacted by this imminent hunger.
I do IF and I've eaten sugar at the end of my meal time and have lost weight doing that. Recently I've been struggling with gout and gave up sugar to see if that would help and it has helped a lot I believe (better in a couple of days after a month long attack) and I lost 2-lbs over the Christmas Holiday even though I ate a lot but didn't have any straight sugary stuff whatsoever (I tried this starting just before Christmas). That loss tells me that my eating sugar might have been slowing my weight loss down. I don't think it was just getting rid of extra cals because I ate a lot of cheese instead and put down a lot of cals. I'm going to keep experimenting and see what happens.
The sugar causing hunger isn't a thing if I eat it at the end of the day after my meals. If I eat something sugary for breakfast or cheat on my fasting, it definitely will cause a lot of hunger that way.
It doesn't matter what I eat, but if I eat breakfast early (near when I get up at 5:00), I'm ALWAYS more hungry throughout the day than if I hold off breakfast until 9:30 or so. I think it's more the fast than the sugar.0
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