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stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Well because it has no scientific proof that it is. It's an opinion of yours and that's not proof.I believe fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if last/only food on the planet. Very unpopular view here on MFP.
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Since the thread is asking for "unpopular opinions" nothing wrong with me expressing one of my "unpopular opinions." As for scientific proof, there is a lot of proof out there that fast food is "not good." So makes you go hmmmm.if it's not good, then what is it? What is the opposite of good, Elmo? Let's watch some Sesame Street and learn what "not good" means together.
it's also been proved that by eating just fast food you can do the following:
1. Lose weight
2. lower blood pressure
3. lower cholesterol numbers
4. meet required macros even surpass RDA Min.
All this from eating just fast food...sounds "good" to me.
The "not good" is the excess fast food...large sized this...large sized that.
No those things have not been proven at all. In fact the opposite has been proven. You're just pulling my leg. If you really believe that, well then, I guess ignorance is truly bliss. Enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teacher-who-ate-mcdonalds-90-6654329
Ahhhh the Mirror...best peer reviewed scientific journal on the planet. Wasn't this the issue that had Kate Middleton topless?
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10
Guess you didn't read the article.
Here's a more respectable journal
It's a business rag, not even a scientific journal. Besides, even if it us true this one man lost weight (#1 only) eating only McDonalds doesn't mean he did it eating only fast food as McDonalds sells non fast food ( i.e. Salads, carrot sticks, etc) as well as fast food. Secondly, a sample size of one is too small to be statistically significant. No actual scientific study can publish with n=1.
How is a burger from McDonalds fast food, but a salad from McDonalds isn't fast food?
How is a salad, carrot stick, apple slices fast food? I guess we have different definitions of fast food then.
Did it come from McDonalds, BK, Wendy's, Arby's, Hardees... It's fast food.8 -
My unpopular opinions. Yeah, I know they are unpopular. LOL I'm not debating them.
I don't think many can achieve weight loss goals without a healthy diet. And I am pretty sure maintenance is extremely hard if changes have not been made. I doubt there are many living in a newly slim body for many years who just ate a few hundred calories less of everything per day - they are a minority, IMO.
I think counting exact calories can be a waste of time. Health, daily living, and your food choices are going to affect your caloric needs by a lot. I've lost, maintained and gained all at the same caloric intake. Calculating a deficit and eating exactly that is no guarantee of weight loss.
I think My Plate and the food pyramid is based on very little scientific theory and should be dumped.
I think a majority of people would see their health improve, and not decline, if they eliminated refined carbs and added sugars.
I think people with metabolic disease (T2D, PCOS, NAFLD, CAD), or at risk of metabolic disease, would benefit by switching to a LCHF diet. Unfortunately, this now appears to be the majority of North Americans.
I think fat and salt restrictions for the vast majority of people are pointless and may be unhealthy.
I think some exercise is great, but many end up paying for too much exercise as they get older. Competitive sports are fun but not many get through that without lingering injuries as they age.
I think there is something in refined carbs and sugars that makes them addictive-like for many people, and I find it annoying when their experiences are "poo-poo'ed" as not real, poor will power, or just a mental/behavioral thing.
I think diet plays a much greater part in people's health than most believe, and I think it's hard for people to believe that until their own health takes a decline. I think it is probably wise to avoid man-made ingredients and some sweeteners, and I think orgaincs, heirloom, and free range foods are better for you.
I think large parts of paleo and primal diets make a lot of sense.
I think if you need to eat every 2-3 hours, you are eating the wrong foods.
I think a carnivorous diet can be very healthy.
I think the diets recommended by most diabetic associations are shockingly bad for most diabetics.
I think BPC tastes really good.Christine_72 wrote: »If anything, I'm sure this thread has been cathartic for many people. It feels good to get stuff off your chest
Yeah, that felt good.
things crossed out have been proven to be true on a scientific level...smh.
Did you mean false?2 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »I genuinely think a size 10, or 8-12, is usually *perfect* on a taller girl. Meanwhile most of my female friends strive for size 2 or 4, whether they are currently a size 6 or 28 doesn't seem to matter to them.
you do understand that the size 8-10 today is totally dif than it was 15 years ago right?
and that by saying that 8-12 is "perfect" for taller girls shows that you really aren't in touch with being taller.
When I was a 12 I was considered over weight...now I am in line with my weight I am a size 6...5lbs down I am a size 4...
I think apparently people have gotten so used to fat being normal that it is seen as "perfect"
Is this an industry standard measurement? Or wacky vanity sizing? Women's sizes are all over the place in measurement, to the extent that I literally have things marked "Small" to "Extra Large" in my closet that all fit correctly.
Young girls and women alike state "I wanna get in Size X" when in fact that's not any sort of standard nowadays. It's also the backward idea that we're suppose to alter our bodies to fit the clothes, rather than the clothes fit the body.
I'm all for weight loss when appropriate, not so keen on women letting self-worth to be determined by the size label on a pair of jeans.14 -
Well I was asked what carcinogens are in fast food and other stuff....but I reiterate...it is my opinion that fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if the last food on the planet. I guess I was right too about it being an unpopular opinion here on MFP so of course most of you are going to disagree. As I said before, enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks ( hint deep fried = creation of carcinogens)
"X is toxic" is not an opinion.7 -
stevencloser wrote: »Well I was asked what carcinogens are in fast food and other stuff....but I reiterate...it is my opinion that fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if the last food on the planet. I guess I was right too about it being an unpopular opinion here on MFP so of course most of you are going to disagree. As I said before, enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks ( hint deep fried = creation of carcinogens)
"X is toxic" is not an opinion.
It is an opinion... when it's false.2 -
Many people post pictures to show off their outlier bodies, and I think "Yeah.... You could definitely drop a couple pounds to fit into that 'magical' 18.5-24.9 BMI range." At the same time, I don't think people have to or should drop more weight just to fit into the range if they're happier and more mentally well off at their current weight and are fit otherwise. It's moreso that I often think people are kidding themselves when they say dropping more weight would make them look extremely gaunt and skinny. Perhaps they just feel that way and thus perceive themselves as such.
While it all boils down to CICO, I don't think ALL anecdotes should be totally pushed aside. Perhaps the science behind the tales have yet to be discovered/explained.
Those 300+ lb inspirational talkers who talk about their health while barely being able to breathe as they talk are not inspirational... at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XuwM844bY 7 -
kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*12 -
I don't think this is an unpopular opinion, just a fact, but "fast food" is a category of restaurant, not of foods. Obviously the foods sold by "fast food" restaurants are quite varied, in some cases within a specific restaurant. Therefore, anything sold by a "fast food restaurant" = "fast food" and you can't really generalize about it (for example, many such foods are not fried).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_food and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fast_food_restaurant_chains
I often find it difficult to distinguish what is fast food vs. fast casual (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_casual_restaurant)
I seem to go to fast casual much more often (for a quick lunch to take back to work -- fast food I'd get on a rare occasion when on a road trip) because they are common around my office (even more so than fast food), and typically have more things I enjoy and that meet my needs, but you can't say the food is inherently different. Depends on what you get. Both are quite varied.5 -
I have several unpopular opinions, I think.
1. I believe that there can be value in READING and following formal diets for some people. I believe many of the knowledgeable people here *learned* from formal diets, whether they actually read/studied them or not. I personally learned a LOT from reading formal diet books. I believe that knowledge has helped me maintain +- for 16 years, including through menopause.
2. I believe there are junk foods. Though I don't like the term "empty calories".
3. I believe most folks would benefit (overall) from limiting added sugars and highly refined carbohydrates much more than the average person does.
4. I believe the research that suggests that peri-menopause/menopause leads to insulin resistance in some women. I believe that IR can make it more difficult for some menopausal women to lose weight. (I also believe the hormonal changes at menopause can change how women handle refined carbohydrates, with or without IR.)
5. I believe the distinction between "complex" and "simple" carbohydrates is fairly worthless.8 -
Oh, oh. Another one!
BMI needs to stop being used to measure an individual's health status! That's not how it is meant to be used. It's for use in population studies.5 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I have several unpopular opinions, I think.
1. I believe that there can be value in READING and following formal diets for some people. I believe many of the knowledgeable people here *learned* from formal diets, whether they actually read/studied them or not. I personally learned a LOT from reading formal diet books. I believe that knowledge has helped me maintain +- for 16 years, including through menopause.
2. I believe there are junk foods. Though I don't like the term "empty calories".
3. I believe most folks would benefit (overall) from limiting added sugars and highly refined carbohydrates much more than the average person does.
4. I believe the research that suggests that peri-menopause/menopause leads to insulin resistance in some women. I believe that IR can make it more difficult for some menopausal women to lose weight. (I also believe the hormonal changes at menopause can change how women handle refined carbohydrates, with or without IR.)
5. I believe the distinction between "complex" and "simple" carbohydrates is fairly worthless.
I wanted to comment on 5 in particular for the way most people conflate "simple" with "refined". If it's starchy, it's a complex carb even if it's refined, but of course it's better to go with whole grains usually. (I'll stay out of the rice argument, I'm a weirdo who prefers the flavor of brown basmati rice and am aware most people prefer white rice.)1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*
What if it's light beer?9 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I have several unpopular opinions, I think.
1. I believe that there can be value in READING and following formal diets for some people. I believe many of the knowledgeable people here *learned* from formal diets, whether they actually read/studied them or not. I personally learned a LOT from reading formal diet books. I believe that knowledge has helped me maintain +- for 16 years, including through menopause.
2. I believe there are junk foods. Though I don't like the term "empty calories".
3. I believe most folks would benefit (overall) from limiting added sugars and highly refined carbohydrates much more than the average person does.
4. I believe the research that suggests that peri-menopause/menopause leads to insulin resistance in some women. I believe that IR can make it more difficult for some menopausal women to lose weight. (I also believe the hormonal changes at menopause can change how women handle refined carbohydrates, with or without IR.)
5. I believe the distinction between "complex" and "simple" carbohydrates is fairly worthless.
I wanted to comment on 5 in particular for the way most people conflate "simple" with "refined". If it's starchy, it's a complex carb even if it's refined, but of course it's better to go with whole grains usually. (I'll stay out of the rice argument, I'm a weirdo who prefers the flavor of brown basmati rice and am aware most people prefer white rice.)
Yes, that's part of what I dislike. I also just don't think the terms are helpful for folks anymore (in part given the refined carbohydrate piece).
I prefer brown rice over white, always. I think it tastes better, and did, even when I was eating copious amounts enriched, bleached, white bread, loads of Dr. Pepper and a daily snickers bar.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*
What if it's light beer?
Thats an oxymoron. :laugh:7 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*
What if it's light beer?
Thats an oxymoron. :laugh:
Your post reminded me of how much people bash light beer on these forums. But oh let's not saying anything bad about precious McD (which IMO is the light beer of burgers, unless you like light beer, which I do, so for me it's more the IPA of burgers because I hate IPA).11 -
I only count calories. I count every calorie, but I only count calories. I don't limit carbs or fat or eat green, etc. I'll eat anything I want as long as it falls beneath my calorie goal. Not a very popular stance.18
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*
What if it's light beer?
What's the difference between having intercourse in a canoe and light beer?
Nothing - they are both *kitten* close to water.18 -
Tabbycat00 wrote: »I only count calories. I count every calorie, but I only count calories. I don't limit carbs or fat or eat green, etc. I'll eat anything I want as long as it falls beneath my calorie goal. Not a very popular stance.
that isn't unpopular - that is what most people on MFP say to do - CICO is king8 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*
What if it's light beer?
What's the difference between having intercourse in a canoe and light beer?
Nothing - they are both *kitten* close to water.
Now you look more superior than you actually are. Or so I've heard.
*I like water. I find it refreshing.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*
What if it's light beer?
Thats an oxymoron. :laugh:
Your post reminded me of how much people bash light beer on these forums. But oh let's not saying anything bad about precious McD (which IMO is the light beer of burgers, unless you like light beer, which I do, so for me it's more the IPA of burgers because I hate IPA).
*shrug* I like light beer, but I figure you were looking for a rise so I gave.
I don't discriminate against any alcohol. :laugh:2
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