All of my friends are getting bigger............
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Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
Maybe I have a realllly thick skin but I don't find this sentiment objectionable or insulting at all.
I was in reasonable shape when I got married. If I then thought "well, I've bagged this chick for life so I don't see the need to keep trying anymore, bring on the pies!" that would be pretty disrespectful to my wife.
Of course, life and weight gain happens and I am sure she would love whatever. However I have the desire to keep in relatively good shape for her (as well as me, natch) as it helps with our physical attraction to one and other.
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Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
Maybe I have a realllly thick skin but I don't find this sentiment objectionable or insulting at all.
I was in reasonable shape when I got married. If I then thought "well, I've bagged this chick for life so I don't see the need to keep trying anymore, bring on the pies!" that would be pretty disrespectful to my wife.
Of course, life and weight gain happens and I am sure she would love whatever. However I have the desire to keep in relatively good shape for her (as well as me, natch) as it helps with our physical attraction to one and other.
Insulting or not it makes a lot of ridiculous assumptions.7 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
Maybe I have a realllly thick skin but I don't find this sentiment objectionable or insulting at all.
I was in reasonable shape when I got married. If I then thought "well, I've bagged this chick for life so I don't see the need to keep trying anymore, bring on the pies!" that would be pretty disrespectful to my wife.
Of course, life and weight gain happens and I am sure she would love whatever. However I have the desire to keep in relatively good shape for her (as well as me, natch) as it helps with our physical attraction to one and other.
Insulting or not it makes a lot of ridiculous assumptions.
Fair enough.
My perception of the sentiment behind the post was a person should keep making an effort to the best of their ability as their relationship progresses which I agree with.6 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
Maybe I have a realllly thick skin but I don't find this sentiment objectionable or insulting at all.
I was in reasonable shape when I got married. If I then thought "well, I've bagged this chick for life so I don't see the need to keep trying anymore, bring on the pies!" that would be pretty disrespectful to my wife.
Of course, life and weight gain happens and I am sure she would love whatever. However I have the desire to keep in relatively good shape for her (as well as me, natch) as it helps with our physical attraction to one and other.
Insulting or not it makes a lot of ridiculous assumptions.
Fair enough.
My perception of the sentiment behind the post was a person should keep making an effort to the best of their ability as their relationship progresses which I agree with.
My perception is that every relationship is different and people should mind their own.23 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »LazyButHealthy wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
What a load of tosh.
Your assumption that people gain weight because they 'let themselves go' is atrociously insulting!
So using a phrase like “letting themselves go” triggers an extremely intense feeling of being insulted? Lol, I hope you use a great deal of caution when viewing this forum and most online content, that is about as benign as it gets.
Feel free to advance an alternative theory as to why a lot of couples tend to put on weight after they get married (keeping in mind that I have already identified aging, babies, and medical conditions as foreseeable and often unavoidable causes.)
Why are aging and babies valid reasons to become overweight IYO but other life changes are not?
For example?
Job change, moving, ill/death of parent/child/spouse, loss of income, natural disaster, ...
If significant stressful life events cause you to respond with the long term abuse of some substance (food, alcohol, drugs, etc.), then you have a psychological medical condition that you need professional help with.
So now gaining weight = substance abuse = psychological condition requiring medical help?
Wow.
But isn't it at some point? If someone is eating to soothe some psychological condition and said eating results in a 50 or 100+ pound weight gain (impacting their health), doesn't one need to treat the psychological condition or their will be virtually no hope in treating the medical condition (obesity)?11 -
I am appreciating my husband more and more and more and this thread continues. I am such a lucky lady!!23
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MommaGem2017 wrote: »I am appreciating my husband more and more and more and this thread continues. I am such a lucky lady!!
Just know not all men share the opinions expressed.26 -
#notallmen In this case I'll allow it *insert tongue in cheek emoji here*18
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Packerjohn wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »LazyButHealthy wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
What a load of tosh.
Your assumption that people gain weight because they 'let themselves go' is atrociously insulting!
So using a phrase like “letting themselves go” triggers an extremely intense feeling of being insulted? Lol, I hope you use a great deal of caution when viewing this forum and most online content, that is about as benign as it gets.
Feel free to advance an alternative theory as to why a lot of couples tend to put on weight after they get married (keeping in mind that I have already identified aging, babies, and medical conditions as foreseeable and often unavoidable causes.)
Why are aging and babies valid reasons to become overweight IYO but other life changes are not?
For example?
Job change, moving, ill/death of parent/child/spouse, loss of income, natural disaster, ...
If significant stressful life events cause you to respond with the long term abuse of some substance (food, alcohol, drugs, etc.), then you have a psychological medical condition that you need professional help with.
So now gaining weight = substance abuse = psychological condition requiring medical help?
Wow.
But isn't it at some point? If someone is eating to soothe some psychological condition and said eating results in a 50 or 100+ pound weight gain (impacting their health), doesn't one need to treat the psychological condition or their will be virtually no hope in treating the medical condition (obesity)?
'at some point' as in 'in some cases' yes, but to assume everyone that gains weight after marriage need counseling is dumb.7 -
You don't genuinely seem interested in helping your friends, and given the way you phrased your post about them, it's not surprising they might roll their eyes or discount your advice, even if you did phrase it in a helpful way.
Best of luck with the marriage and your friendships... [/quote]
@WinoGelato you are a piece of work. you need to calm down.
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Tacklewasher wrote: »MommaGem2017 wrote: »I am appreciating my husband more and more and more and this thread continues. I am such a lucky lady!!
Just know not all men share the opinions expressed.
Well clearly. Men are not a homogeneous group sharing a single viewpoint and neither are women. People can and do approach their relationships as they see fit as expressed above.
Unless the argument is that this a male traits thing v a female traits thing.
Which would be a bit silly.2 -
RaeBeeBaby wrote: »Mom used to say "fat and happy, skinny and sad". That has been true my entire life. Why? Comfort eating and confident in the love no matter the shape or size. It is easier than you think to gain a few pounds here and there and shrug it off. At the end of the day it comes down to wanting a better body for yourself and making the changes to get there.
I've had (former) friends who dropped me when I got fit. As long as we were all struggling it was fine, but get thinner and fit and you're somehow a threat, even if you're absolutely not. You realize those aren't real friends after all. These days I make better choices all around - food, fitness AND friends.I agree. When we are fit, thin, and healthy, people stop being nice. Even "friends" find something to say about you out of jealousy, or whatever it is they feel towards you. Even on this app, people don't want to hear that you weigh 120#. I think that thin people get mistreated and don't get the respect as the heavier people in the midst of their weight loss,.. Although we started out at unhealthy levels just like the rest of them..
I was going to take issue with this, but then I saw you guys were talking about when people are all overweight together things are fine, but if one person gets fit the dynamic changes. I don't have an issue with that. My problem was when I though you were talking about all thin people getting mistreated, a concept I find bizarre.2 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »That's their business.
Yeah, because friendship is silently witnessing the people you care about decline into an unhealthy state and pretending it isn't happening...
What from the opening post makes you think the OP cares about the people she is describing?
These are people she hasn't seen in months that she is saying have gotten "HUGE", and thinks they "Don't care"
This isn't her sitting down with a loved one and saying "Honey, I'm getting concerned for your health"
She was just creating a bragging post that she has lost weight since getting married whilst others gain weight. Not a nice character trait imho.
That's how I read it too. I have friends of all sizes. The ones I really care about - I don't notice or care if they gain a little weight. I don't love them for how slim their thighs are - I love them for who they are. Subsequently, I often don't notice if they've lost weight either, but if they point out that they have, I compliment them. If they ask me how to fix their weight gain, i'll tell them what I would do and let them decide if they want to hear more. but really... I wouldn't make a post about it online, and I certainly wouldn't brag about how I'm the only fit one of my friends.
I do have a friend who is morbidly obese and we are all worried about her. but I'm guessing she knows she's obese. She doesn't need us telling her, or giving her advice, or criticizing her for letting herself get that way or even secretly praising ourselves for being more in shape than she is.6 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I'm not sure if I should confess this, but I'm married to a sedentary vegetarian bloke who has a natural off-switch. He's one of those people who will never become anything over slightly overweight, however much cake you put in front of him. This isn't anything to do with a naturally high metabolism; it's his habits. He will only have cake after dinner, "because it wouldn't be enjoyable if you ate it all the time" and he always just stops after one slice because "he's full".
Any way, the upshot of all this is that since I raised my activity level to be two levels higher than his, and shrank my portion sizes to about his, I don't put on weight. Don't lose either, but I don't gain.
So that's what you need to do. Find a sedentary man with a small appetite, and exercise more than him.
Grrr... My man has a huge appetite, exercises like a pro-player, is almost a foot taller than me AND is younger! (BMI 21.6) Should I trade him in?
On the plus size he does encourage me to exercise more. I already did before I met him but he does encourage me to push harder and try new things. Rare times I cook for both of us, it will be my usual food, but he'll eat 3x as much + extras and side items for him.
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I don't owe anyone "thin" or "fit" or "pretty". I am my own human being and if I get married and gain weight then I don't "owe" it to my spouse to lose that weight. If he doesn't like it and it becomes a deal-breaker for him, then that is that - he is also his own human being and gets to determine the terms of his own life. If we have a discussion and I decide to lose weight, I'd do it for my own goddamned self, not because he wants me to.
I freakin hate the term "let herself go", like she *kitten* owed anyone anything. Because we are only talking about looks, here. And women (and men!) do not owe anyone any kind of aesthetic.
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WinoGelato wrote: »Let's see...
OP writes humble brag/judgy post about overweight friends that she thinks is OK because internet anonymity...
People chime in to offer counterpoints with reasons why said overweight friends might be struggling, might not be ready to lose the weight, etc...
A couple posters eager for any chance to Fat shame those who are overweight and struggling join in because clearly these friends are lazy and just don't give a baby sloth about their health and there should be no excuses for getting fat...
Sounds about right, did I miss anything?
Picture of said baby sloth
I actually did not find the OP to be a humble brag. I personally find it very disconcerting to see someone's appearance change dramatically from one visit to the next.
I remember when I was a kid in the 70s being really freaked out when my cousin and a family friend got rid of their hippy hair. Now, with a hair cut there is no moral judgment.
Sure, the OP's "Do they not care?" may have come across to some as being judgy, but that was preceded by "What is going on?" and followed by her friends calling her psycho when she said MFP had worked for her. So I saw it as a genuine, "What's up with this thing going on with my friends?" question.5 -
MommaGem2017 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
I just don't think it's even that intentional. I was at my lowest weight ever when I met my husband. Living alone, I didn't want to bother cooking extensive meals for myself, so I would eat a bowl of cereal, soup, frozen meal, and then go to yoga all night. After I moved in with my (soon-to-be) husband, I actually wanted to cook nice meals for this person I loved. A lazy bowl of cereal turned into yummy lasagnas with wine, and other delicious foods. Both my husband and I were eating richer, more calorie dense foods than normal and we both gained a few pounds.
"(taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course)"
But this is really the key of it all - just LIFE. After our wedding I had two babies and two knee injuries. Tired from back-to-back babies and no longer able to perform the exercise I preferred.... well, now I'm here on MFP trying to lose weight.
Did I intentionally "let myself go"? No, but life happens.
Yes, I have a very different cooking style when I'm single. Food is simpler and less caloric.
And I'm also more active. I didn't even have cable (or netflix or hulu) last few times I was single. Now, I spend a lot of time watching TV with my OH, but a lot of this is for the cuddling. Sometimes I intend to do some yoga after an hour of TV but get sucked into that cuddling vortex.0 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »MommaGem2017 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
I just don't think it's even that intentional. I was at my lowest weight ever when I met my husband. Living alone, I didn't want to bother cooking extensive meals for myself, so I would eat a bowl of cereal, soup, frozen meal, and then go to yoga all night. After I moved in with my (soon-to-be) husband, I actually wanted to cook nice meals for this person I loved. A lazy bowl of cereal turned into yummy lasagnas with wine, and other delicious foods. Both my husband and I were eating richer, more calorie dense foods than normal and we both gained a few pounds.
"(taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course)" is actually a huge part of it."
But this is really the key of it all - just LIFE. After our wedding I had two babies and two knee injuries. Tired from back-to-back babies and no longer able to perform the exercise I preferred.... well, now I'm here on MFP trying to lose weight.
Did I intentionally "let myself go"? No, but life happens.
I lived with someone in my 20s, and about 6 months into it, we both had gained a fair amount of weight. While it wasn't "intentional", the lack of pressure to stay fit was the primary cause. We didn't care to impress each other with our healthy eating habits like when we first met, there was a lot of fast food. We both skipped the gym because having a decent physique to attract the opposite sex wasn't a priority anymore. There was more laying around the house and eating comfort food While this is all evident in hindsight, I was not even aware of the reality of any of this until we were no longer together and I had to reverse what had happened to me.
I bet If you'd led with this you wouldn't be catching nearly as much flack.
Perhaps you are now getting the sense that "let yourself go" is primarily an insult leveled against women and will be more careful about using it in the future.
21 Signs You’ve Let Yourself Go After Having A Baby6 -
It's not your business. Worry about yourself.
People do tend to put on weight when they get into a serious relationship. Comfort levels, y'know? You don't need to put forth as much effort to attract people, so you fall into the comfort trap. Doesn't matter, though. It's their business, and their life, and if anyone decides they need to lose weight, it has to be them.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »MommaGem2017 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
I just don't think it's even that intentional. I was at my lowest weight ever when I met my husband. Living alone, I didn't want to bother cooking extensive meals for myself, so I would eat a bowl of cereal, soup, frozen meal, and then go to yoga all night. After I moved in with my (soon-to-be) husband, I actually wanted to cook nice meals for this person I loved. A lazy bowl of cereal turned into yummy lasagnas with wine, and other delicious foods. Both my husband and I were eating richer, more calorie dense foods than normal and we both gained a few pounds.
"(taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course)"
But this is really the key of it all - just LIFE. After our wedding I had two babies and two knee injuries. Tired from back-to-back babies and no longer able to perform the exercise I preferred.... well, now I'm here on MFP trying to lose weight.
Did I intentionally "let myself go"? No, but life happens.
Yes, I have a very different cooking style when I'm single. Food is simpler and less caloric.
And I'm also more active. I didn't even have cable (or netflix or hulu) last few times I was single. Now, I spend a lot of time watching TV with my OH, but a lot of this is for the cuddling. Sometimes I intend to do some yoga after an hour of TV but get sucked into that cuddling vortex.
Ohhhhhh, the cuddle vortex is super strong!!1 -
Katiebear_81 wrote: »I don't owe anyone "thin" or "fit" or "pretty". I am my own human being and if I get married and gain weight then I don't "owe" it to my spouse to lose that weight. If he doesn't like it and it becomes a deal-breaker for him, then that is that - he is also his own human being and gets to determine the terms of his own life. If we have a discussion and I decide to lose weight, I'd do it for my own goddamned self, not because he wants me to.
I freakin hate the term "let herself go", like she *kitten* owed anyone anything. Because we are only talking about looks, here. And women (and men!) do not owe anyone any kind of aesthetic.
I think you'll love this: https://www.romper.com/p/21-signs-youve-let-yourself-go-after-having-a-baby-616845 -
@WinoGelato you are a piece of work. you need to calm down.
Telling people to "calm down"...
You like to try to pull those triggers and push those buttons don't you. You're funny. Kettle:pot, guess what color you are.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Katiebear_81 wrote: »I don't owe anyone "thin" or "fit" or "pretty". I am my own human being and if I get married and gain weight then I don't "owe" it to my spouse to lose that weight. If he doesn't like it and it becomes a deal-breaker for him, then that is that - he is also his own human being and gets to determine the terms of his own life. If we have a discussion and I decide to lose weight, I'd do it for my own goddamned self, not because he wants me to.
I freakin hate the term "let herself go", like she *kitten* owed anyone anything. Because we are only talking about looks, here. And women (and men!) do not owe anyone any kind of aesthetic.
I think you'll love this: https://www.romper.com/p/21-signs-youve-let-yourself-go-after-having-a-baby-61684
This is amazing. Lizard person!!! Hahahahahaha. So good.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
Or what? Grounds for divorce?
"Hey, we are locked into a marriage contract so I don't give AF if I am in shape anymore" is probably indicative of many other troubling concepts on marriage.
Yeah, because that happens all the time.
It's more often something like this.
Her: "Gosh, my pants are getting tight, I guess I need to cut back."
Him: "What are you talking about you look awesome."
Him: "Let's get pizza."
Her: "I'd rather fix something at home. I've put on a few lbs."
Him: "Don't be silly, you look great. I love the new curves."
Her: "I'm so tired from caring for the baby. Why don't you take care of dinner tonight?"
Him: Calls and orders pizza or Chinese.
Don't forget :
"I'd like to go to the gym/ do a dvd tonight can you watch the kids?"
"No. I'm tired.
We can't afford the gym.
Take them with you.
Why are you losing weight, is it someone else?"
Just telling it like it is.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »MommaGem2017 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
I just don't think it's even that intentional. I was at my lowest weight ever when I met my husband. Living alone, I didn't want to bother cooking extensive meals for myself, so I would eat a bowl of cereal, soup, frozen meal, and then go to yoga all night. After I moved in with my (soon-to-be) husband, I actually wanted to cook nice meals for this person I loved. A lazy bowl of cereal turned into yummy lasagnas with wine, and other delicious foods. Both my husband and I were eating richer, more calorie dense foods than normal and we both gained a few pounds.
"(taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course)" is actually a huge part of it."
But this is really the key of it all - just LIFE. After our wedding I had two babies and two knee injuries. Tired from back-to-back babies and no longer able to perform the exercise I preferred.... well, now I'm here on MFP trying to lose weight.
Did I intentionally "let myself go"? No, but life happens.
I lived with someone in my 20s, and about 6 months into it, we both had gained a fair amount of weight. While it wasn't "intentional", the lack of pressure to stay fit was the primary cause. We didn't care to impress each other with our healthy eating habits like when we first met, there was a lot of fast food. We both skipped the gym because having a decent physique to attract the opposite sex wasn't a priority anymore. There was more laying around the house and eating comfort food While this is all evident in hindsight, I was not even aware of the reality of any of this until we were no longer together and I had to reverse what had happened to me.
I bet If you'd led with this you wouldn't be catching nearly as much flack.
Perhaps you are now getting the sense that "let yourself go" is primarily an insult leveled against women and will be more careful about using it in the future.
21 Signs You’ve Let Yourself Go After Having A Baby
I specifically excluded having babies from the "letting yourself go" narrative multiple times, it is all in the record above if people keep bringing it back to baby weight, that is shedding light on their own viewpoint, not mine.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Katiebear_81 wrote: »I don't owe anyone "thin" or "fit" or "pretty". I am my own human being and if I get married and gain weight then I don't "owe" it to my spouse to lose that weight. If he doesn't like it and it becomes a deal-breaker for him, then that is that - he is also his own human being and gets to determine the terms of his own life. If we have a discussion and I decide to lose weight, I'd do it for my own goddamned self, not because he wants me to.
I freakin hate the term "let herself go", like she *kitten* owed anyone anything. Because we are only talking about looks, here. And women (and men!) do not owe anyone any kind of aesthetic.
I think you'll love this: https://www.romper.com/p/21-signs-youve-let-yourself-go-after-having-a-baby-61684
this is amazing.The one exception would be if you were trying to impress a man by eating cake and saying something like, "OMG I am such a fatty, right? I mean, I love cake and I eat it all the time and I don't gain weight! How funny is that, huh? I'm not like those other girls. They're so b*tchy and they all eat bunny food. Ha! I love my burgers!"
In that moment you were prioritizing performative misogyny for male approval over watching what you eat. I'll give you a pass. After all, part of not letting yourself go is maintaining a focus on male approval.4 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »LazyButHealthy wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I don't see how it is acceptable to "let yourself go" because you feel comfortable with someone and are no longer motivated to impress that person with your physical appearance (taking into account aging, babies, and medical conditions, of course). The shape that you were in when you committed to being in a relationship should be the baseline going forward.
What a load of tosh.
Your assumption that people gain weight because they 'let themselves go' is atrociously insulting!
So using a phrase like “letting themselves go” triggers an extremely intense feeling of being insulted? Lol, I hope you use a great deal of caution when viewing this forum and most online content, that is about as benign as it gets.
Feel free to advance an alternative theory as to why a lot of couples tend to put on weight after they get married (keeping in mind that I have already identified aging, babies, and medical conditions as foreseeable and often unavoidable causes.)
Why are aging and babies valid reasons to become overweight IYO but other life changes are not?
For example?
Our (US/western) culture, along with a slew of well-marketed, atrocious diet & fitness advice, plays a pretty substantial role in why people are overweight, generally speaking. I hope you're considering this within your conservative permissions of acceptable weight gain.
We are specifically referencing weight gain following marriage, not in general.
In that case, I would argue post-marriage/committed relationship weight gain occurs unintentionally. And people don't realize it's occurring until it's already happened. Kinda like this:I was not even aware of the reality of any of this until we were no longer together
At which point general cultural issues, along with well-marketed, atrocious diet & fitness advice, plays a pretty substantial role in why those people "let themselves go" & struggle to return to their pre-marriage/committed relationship baseline...along with aging, babies, increased responsibilities & lack of free-time, and all the other life changes that contribute to poor eating choices & decreased activity.
Don't get me wrong - I actually agreed with your initial comments regarding conversations with (true) friends about health concerns (excessive smoking, drinking, eating). And I agree that it's entirely within the control of the individual to lose weight, in the vast majority of cases. What I disagree with is the idea that people commit to a relationship and then consciously decide to say 'eff it' and let themselves go. As you described in your own relationship, it's quite unconsciously done.5 -
Katiebear_81 wrote: »I don't owe anyone "thin" or "fit" or "pretty". I am my own human being and if I get married and gain weight then I don't "owe" it to my spouse to lose that weight. If he doesn't like it and it becomes a deal-breaker for him, then that is that - he is also his own human being and gets to determine the terms of his own life. If we have a discussion and I decide to lose weight, I'd do it for my own goddamned self, not because he wants me to.
I freakin hate the term "let herself go", like she *kitten* owed anyone anything. Because we are only talking about looks, here. And women (and men!) do not owe anyone any kind of aesthetic.
I'm in love with you5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Katiebear_81 wrote: »I don't owe anyone "thin" or "fit" or "pretty". I am my own human being and if I get married and gain weight then I don't "owe" it to my spouse to lose that weight. If he doesn't like it and it becomes a deal-breaker for him, then that is that - he is also his own human being and gets to determine the terms of his own life. If we have a discussion and I decide to lose weight, I'd do it for my own goddamned self, not because he wants me to.
I freakin hate the term "let herself go", like she *kitten* owed anyone anything. Because we are only talking about looks, here. And women (and men!) do not owe anyone any kind of aesthetic.
I think you'll love this: https://www.romper.com/p/21-signs-youve-let-yourself-go-after-having-a-baby-61684
Thanks for sharing that; I loved it!
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It's not your business. Worry about yourself.
People do tend to put on weight when they get into a serious relationship. Comfort levels, y'know? You don't need to put forth as much effort to attract people, so you fall into the comfort trap. Doesn't matter, though. It's their business, and their life, and if anyone decides they need to lose weight, it has to be them.
So it makes sense to be in shape to find a fling on a Friday night but not to be in shape for your soulmate?8
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