Of refeeds and diet breaks
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »But at the price of awesome...
Anyhoo, guessing game time. This is my Pa, guess how old he is.
75 - 80
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I'm splurging a little on myself for the holiday, though I probably really shouldn't considering what I've spent in new clothes recently......
I've got to take my car in to have the heating checked out - the passenger side is toasty while the driver's side is cold, and flushing the heating core didn't help. I think its a blend door actuator or valve, but I'm not sure which one is the problem and since the parts involved are $100 each, I'm taking it to the dealer to narrow down exactly what part needs replaced. Though after I made the appointment yesterday, of course, this morning, I noticed more heat on the driver's side.......it will probably behave itself quite nicely at the dealership!
anyway, I decided to splurge and get a haircut at a pricier place than my usual haunt of Supercuts in Walmart
I've got thin hair on the finer side, and I struggle to get volume; my hair wants to plaster itself to my head, which just makes my face look huge and round. I want a cut that will look like I have more hair! I'm hopeless at determining what would look good, so I scheduled a consultation at Ulta beauty. I'm hoping they can help me figure out what would look better, and not just give me the cut I asked for like the other place usually does.
It's Christmas after all, and sometimes a gal just wants to feel pretty, right? Especially after she's dropped 100 lbs and 3 clothing sizes! lol6 -
Rickster1967 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Noobish question, are refeeds only for low-carb dieters? I've mostly seen them in the context of keto/low-carb diets.
What they said!!
My take from the podcast is that refeeds are beneficial for everyone, not just those already lean or doing competition stuff, but they become increasingly important the leaner you get.
I really, really want him to finish his new book for women.
Yes, that's what I meant but didn't put it too well. There can be some benefit for pretty much anyone, but they become pretty important when you're lean already and trying to get that extra bit.
Yeah, I figured that's what you meant, just clarifying for anyone who may read and think 'oh, I don't have to worry about that yet'. I think both refeeds and diet breaks should be incorporated by everyone from early on.
Lyle does make the point that those first four to six weeks at a deficit for a lot of people (esp long term overweight) may need to be pretty tunnel vision deficit, 'healthy' foods, because they're resetting taste buds and solidifying new behaviours.
I'm 50 and been overweight 10 years so I guess that counts as long term, right?
Anyway, my PT who set my programme up explained exactly that point to me at the beginning.
He said I would need to stay in deficit til I've dropped 60lbs or something, then to do the re-feed.
I have re-set the taste buds & established new behaviour. I'll listen to Kyles' podcast above, this is all really
useful info for me.
Sad thing is 10 years ago I was super lean & buff having spent the previous 5 years in the gym pretty much every day
Let it ALL go really badly (Credit Crunch victim)
Getting it back now though
Wow this worked out perfectly
That post was on 20 October.
I started Diet Break today having dropped 63lb already, 73 still to go
I still don't really feel hungry and I could carry on with current deficit. However, I want the
benefits of the diet break when I push through to target weight. Probably going to need more breaks
as the weight comes off
I'll let you know how it goes although will be going for re-comp before getting to target8 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I spend one day out running errands and you all are busy bees posting away.
Speaking of running, I felt somewhat back to halfway energetic this morning and ran some intervals on the treadmill this morning. The real test will be to see if I feel okay tomorrow or if I feel wiped out in the aftermath.
I really would love to slowly work my way back into it, because I do miss it.
Hugs to everyone now I guess. At least the woo button is no longer ambiguous.
lol - I must be very dense because I'm still not exactly sure which version of "woo" they are referring to with the little face. But that's probably because I can't really make out what the face's expression is. At least I understand the hug!
It's the 'that's pseudoscience nonsense' woo.
Only two people game to guess my Dad's age? Yeesh! Just as well I didn't ask you to guess mine! He'll be 86 in April.
So, this is how good I am at maintenance
Ahahahahaha
I'm aiming to eat what my Fitbit tells me until Christmas Day, just to see if I am actually still dropping now that TOM bloat is out of the picture. Though, have a project BBQ this afternoon so that will be guesstimating. I'm still in two minds as to whether to brave sunblock and walk (my skin is a bit stingy today), or drive and not be able to have a couple of drinks. I'm such a lightweight now that a couple of drinks and I'm tipsy. Fine for meandering home on my footsies, not for driving at open road speeds for 12 minutes, even though I'd technically be well under the limit. I can take my parasol if the wind doesn't get up, but that only protects my head and shoulders. I need a freaking golf umbrella sized one.
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Rickster1967 wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Noobish question, are refeeds only for low-carb dieters? I've mostly seen them in the context of keto/low-carb diets.
What they said!!
My take from the podcast is that refeeds are beneficial for everyone, not just those already lean or doing competition stuff, but they become increasingly important the leaner you get.
I really, really want him to finish his new book for women.
Yes, that's what I meant but didn't put it too well. There can be some benefit for pretty much anyone, but they become pretty important when you're lean already and trying to get that extra bit.
Yeah, I figured that's what you meant, just clarifying for anyone who may read and think 'oh, I don't have to worry about that yet'. I think both refeeds and diet breaks should be incorporated by everyone from early on.
Lyle does make the point that those first four to six weeks at a deficit for a lot of people (esp long term overweight) may need to be pretty tunnel vision deficit, 'healthy' foods, because they're resetting taste buds and solidifying new behaviours.
I'm 50 and been overweight 10 years so I guess that counts as long term, right?
Anyway, my PT who set my programme up explained exactly that point to me at the beginning.
He said I would need to stay in deficit til I've dropped 60lbs or something, then to do the re-feed.
I have re-set the taste buds & established new behaviour. I'll listen to Kyles' podcast above, this is all really
useful info for me.
Sad thing is 10 years ago I was super lean & buff having spent the previous 5 years in the gym pretty much every day
Let it ALL go really badly (Credit Crunch victim)
Getting it back now though
Wow this worked out perfectly
That post was on 20 October.
I started Diet Break today having dropped 63lb already, 73 still to go
I still don't really feel hungry and I could carry on with current deficit. However, I want the
benefits of the diet break when I push through to target weight. Probably going to need more breaks
as the weight comes off
I'll let you know how it goes although will be going for re-comp before getting to target
Yep, the less body fat you have, the more frequently you need to take breaks.
Good to see all those health markers in the healthy range btw. I hope you are a) feeling much better physically, and b) a bit more relaxed/less urgent about the rest of the trip to goal now that the health pressure is off 3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Noobish question, are refeeds only for low-carb dieters? I've mostly seen them in the context of keto/low-carb diets.
What they said!!
My take from the podcast is that refeeds are beneficial for everyone, not just those already lean or doing competition stuff, but they become increasingly important the leaner you get.
I really, really want him to finish his new book for women.
Yes, that's what I meant but didn't put it too well. There can be some benefit for pretty much anyone, but they become pretty important when you're lean already and trying to get that extra bit.
Yeah, I figured that's what you meant, just clarifying for anyone who may read and think 'oh, I don't have to worry about that yet'. I think both refeeds and diet breaks should be incorporated by everyone from early on.
Lyle does make the point that those first four to six weeks at a deficit for a lot of people (esp long term overweight) may need to be pretty tunnel vision deficit, 'healthy' foods, because they're resetting taste buds and solidifying new behaviours.
I'm 50 and been overweight 10 years so I guess that counts as long term, right?
Anyway, my PT who set my programme up explained exactly that point to me at the beginning.
He said I would need to stay in deficit til I've dropped 60lbs or something, then to do the re-feed.
I have re-set the taste buds & established new behaviour. I'll listen to Kyles' podcast above, this is all really
useful info for me.
Sad thing is 10 years ago I was super lean & buff having spent the previous 5 years in the gym pretty much every day
Let it ALL go really badly (Credit Crunch victim)
Getting it back now though
Wow this worked out perfectly
That post was on 20 October.
I started Diet Break today having dropped 63lb already, 73 still to go
I still don't really feel hungry and I could carry on with current deficit. However, I want the
benefits of the diet break when I push through to target weight. Probably going to need more breaks
as the weight comes off
I'll let you know how it goes although will be going for re-comp before getting to target
Yep, the less body fat you have, the more frequently you need to take breaks.
Good to see all those health markers in the healthy range btw. I hope you are a) feeling much better physically, and b) a bit more relaxed/less urgent about the rest of the trip to goal now that the health pressure is off
Thanks
And yes the pressure is off somewhat because I am actually a functional human being now. I wasn't 155 days ago or probably even 60 days ago to be honest. The things one can't do when you are that fat, sick, depressed and unfit actually stop one from doing anything
Now I'm fit and functional. The sickness, depression and lethargy are gone. I'm aware of what I'm doing and how the process will go from here. The weight loss & fitness plan is now a parallel project with other things in life. Up to now it has been the number one priority over all other things.
Still need to drop a bunch of weight and I will. Looking forward to getting much fitter and stronger, lifting a lot heavier. Mainly looking forward to doing all the stuff I was missing out on when fat, sick and nearly dead
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Option Three is drive to work, leave car there and pick up tomorrow if I have a couple of drinks. This means I only need to sunblock for the walk home, and I'll be going to the shopping complex in the next town over tomorrow morning anyway.1
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Got to report in
I've eaten my Diet Break calories today and I gotta tell ya
Feels awesome 9 -
Rickster1967 wrote: »Got to report in
I've eaten my Diet Break calories today and I gotta tell ya
Feels awesome
You're killin' me, Smalls! Trying to hold out for onederland and/or January for a diet break.
Been on a plateau for about three weeks. I'm really tempted to start the diet break now. Right. Now.
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alteredstates175 wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Got to report in
I've eaten my Diet Break calories today and I gotta tell ya
Feels awesome
You're killin' me, Smalls! Trying to hold out for onederland and/or January for a diet break.
Been on a plateau for about three weeks. I'm really tempted to start the diet break now. Right. Now.
Start now. You will get to Onederland quicker if you do, I bet.0 -
Also, what's a potentially infected mosquito bite at this point, right? *kitten* you, Nature.0
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alteredstates175 wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Got to report in
I've eaten my Diet Break calories today and I gotta tell ya
Feels awesome
You're killin' me, Smalls! Trying to hold out for onederland and/or January for a diet break.
Been on a plateau for about three weeks. I'm really tempted to start the diet break now. Right. Now.
it's only one day so far but I can tell you, after 153 days on 20 to 30% calorie deficit, eating a high carb maintenance level has me feeling like I could rip up trees, can feel the energy coursing through me. If you have been in deficit for a long time you might benefit from a break physiologically and psychologically
Gonna workout in the morning and eat back the exercise cals. Can't wait6 -
VintageFeline wrote: »I tried the strap looser. I tried giving it time. I applied steroid cream religiously. All no cigar. My first strap I adjusted to and then when I switched watches I was totally fine for a while. And then boom, skin flared up and never liked silicon or leather again!
It's funny, I have no issue with the strap, but with the device itself. It gives me a terrible rash.
I was okay when I had my Flex because I wore that very loosely, but the Charge2, being an HRM type needs to be worn somewhat snugly, and that's turned out to be my downfall. I tend to have problems with any metal, though (I don't even wear a wedding band because of this). And there are parts of the back of the Fitbit that are metal that seem to be causing this).
The best I can do is not sleep in the thing to give my skin a break.1 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »alteredstates175 wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Got to report in
I've eaten my Diet Break calories today and I gotta tell ya
Feels awesome
You're killin' me, Smalls! Trying to hold out for onederland and/or January for a diet break.
Been on a plateau for about three weeks. I'm really tempted to start the diet break now. Right. Now.
Start now. You will get to Onederland quicker if you do, I bet.
That's what I was thinking, Nony. Maybe my body is telling me it's time for a break. I have been holding around 205 +/- 2 pounds since November 25th. Will calculate a new calorie target when I get some free time tonight. Stupid work!
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alteredstates175 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »alteredstates175 wrote: »Rickster1967 wrote: »Got to report in
I've eaten my Diet Break calories today and I gotta tell ya
Feels awesome
You're killin' me, Smalls! Trying to hold out for onederland and/or January for a diet break.
Been on a plateau for about three weeks. I'm really tempted to start the diet break now. Right. Now.
Start now. You will get to Onederland quicker if you do, I bet.
That's what I was thinking, Nony. Maybe my body is telling me it's time for a break. I have been holding around 205 +/- 2 pounds since November 25th. Will calculate a new calorie target when I get some free time tonight. Stupid work!
Yep, that's what I think too. No sense in banging your head against a wall for a few more weeks.
Or I can send you my psychotic immune system! It's free to a good home and good for a 4 lb weight loss in less than 6 weeks eating at TDEE (or more accurately, what would normally be TDEE) 1 -
I don't think I'm diet breaking right. Some of this is because I am feeling bloated and on top of that there's the, let's change things up, malaise I am dealing with. Neither a winning combination for wanton indulgence but still, this is me, I am a winner at eating. Except when I'm not.
I have literally just made myself have some tortilla chips and cheese dip (of the cheap and cheerful variety you only indulge quietly in at Christmas) because I have barely eaten today! And I didn't really eat a lot yesterday either. I stopped logging in MFP (but doing some casual mental math) as a sort of test for myself to see how actual maintenance might work but also because I feel like I eat my goal just because sometimes. I did log Monday but came in about with about 400 calories left because I ran out of snacks, heh.
This has turned out to be a double edged sword. I no longer feel the need to finish what I have made/have in front of me. Nor do I fiddle around to see if I can add in a little extra of this because RESTRICTED (psychologically speaking, I don't technically restrict anything but calories). So this is curious. Good news I suppose. Don't imagine it will last forever, the bloat and lack of appetite that is. I'd like the laissez faire attitude to eating everything I have portioned out to stay.
TOMORROW. Eat at least two "proper" meals. And snacks. Diet break ain't worth shiz if you still eat at a deficit! This has never been a problem before. It's a strange turn of events.4 -
VintageFeline wrote: »I don't think I'm diet breaking right. Some of this is because I am feeling bloated and on top of that there's the, let's change things up, malaise I am dealing with. Neither a winning combination for wanton indulgence but still, this is me, I am a winner at eating. Except when I'm not.
I have literally just made myself have some tortilla chips and cheese dip (of the cheap and cheerful variety you only indulge quietly in at Christmas) because I have barely eaten today! And I didn't really eat a lot yesterday either. I stopped logging in MFP (but doing some casual mental math) as a sort of test for myself to see how actual maintenance might work but also because I feel like I eat my goal just because sometimes. I did log Monday but came in about with about 400 calories left because I ran out of snacks, heh.
This has turned out to be a double edged sword. I no longer feel the need to finish what I have made/have in front of me. Nor do I fiddle around to see if I can add in a little extra of this because RESTRICTED (psychologically speaking, I don't technically restrict anything but calories). So this is curious. Good news I suppose. Don't imagine it will last forever, the bloat and lack of appetite that is. I'd like the laissez faire attitude to eating everything I have portioned out to stay.
TOMORROW. Eat at least two "proper" meals. And snacks. Diet break ain't worth shiz if you still eat at a deficit! This has never been a problem before. It's a strange turn of events.
I get it. By a few weeks in to the diet break that wasn't, feeling punk and grumpy (b/c that's pretty much the norm atm), I was just like 'really?? But I don't wanna eat'. I'm so over food currently. Luckily my TDEE has been lower a few days this week with being housebound by stupid nature, so it hasn't been as difficult. Yesterday was only 1850 cals, and I was a-ok with that.
I can't even go 'meh, I'll make that up on Christmas Day' b/c I already have 5250 cals in the body bank if I want to bump back up to 61 kg Ah, me and my First World problems... 2 -
I am supposed to start a diet break on Friday, but my hubby is home from London and in a foul mood, we went to Aldi in search for a proper ham leg (got mini ones instead, probably more sensible as I can freeze the so and sos if we aren't eating them quickly enough), I managed truffled steak, half a baked potato some broccoli and half a bottle of red within my allotment and the good cognac is calling me and has fallen into my glass. I guess I am starting early.
(logging does at least make you cognisant of your bad decisions 6 -
I've made the decision to drive both ways to BBQ. Just can't stand the thought of sunblock on my skin. I had stuck a couple of bottles of cider in the fridge to take with me, but not going to bother. If they happen to have some I may have one, but that's it.1
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Does @psuLemon not love us anymore? He hasn't posted in here in yonks.2
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