January 2018 Running Challenge
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AlphaHowls wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »@juliet3455 one of my favorite places in thr Boundary Waters Canoe Area has a model T on an island.... guessing its been there a while
The picture on the weather channel right now:
This is why today is a dreadmill day. The general human's ability to drive in this weather is lacking something...
*sighs* that is Middle TN, I live a little further north, near Clarksville. The level of stupid on why people have to get out *shakes my head* Over 300 reported accidents in Clarksville....that's just the reported ones.
Yes, that is on I40 I think. I used to live in Nashville. A 1/2 inch snow literally shut the CITY DOWN for 3 days.1 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@PastorVincent @AlphaHowls That road looks like my daily commute the last week or so. Do people really have a hard time navigating winter roads?
I learned to drive in NJ, back when blizzards where not a rare thing, so the 5 inches we got here today in Pittsburgh was nothing to me. I mean, I knew to repsect it and alter my driving to match conditions, but was nothing to fear. Especially since I drive a Jeep.
That image is from TN, near Nashville I think. On the I40. Some of those people have lived their whole lives and never seen snow.
But that is NO EXCUSE FOR THE DOLTS THAT LIVE HERE IN STORMING PITTSBURGH. Sheesh. Seriously. I watched people with local plates spin out, and slide, and tail gate and etc. Keep your sports car at home, and call a Uber or something. For real.
4WD or AWD is insuffecent to overcome stupidity.
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01/01/2018 - 3.0 miles @ 9:15
01/02/2018 - 6.5 MPH and 4% Grade for 1 hour
01/03/2018 - 6.5 MPH For 8 Miles at 4% grade
01/04/2018 - 6.7 MPH For 8 Miles at 4% grade
01/05/2018 - 6.8 MPH For 8 Miles at 4% grade
01/06/2018 - Rest
01/07/2018 - Rest - Family Time
01/07/2018 - 7.0 MPH for 7 miles at 4% grade
01/08/2018 - 10 miles @ 8:58 pace
01/09/2018 - *grumble grumble meetings*
01/10/2018 - 11 miles @ 8:34 pace
01/11/2018 - *grumble* *grumble*
01/12/2018 - 7.0 MPH for 7 miles at 4.25% grade
Big Hairy Audacious Goal: Sub 4 hours in Pittsburgh 2018!
Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Next Races (more as I find them):
03/17/18 - Shamrock Shuffle Half Marathon
05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.
05/12/18 - Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Ultra (I must hate myself)
2020 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)2 -
@zdyb23456 It's the same here if there's even a chance of snow or ice, buses won't run. Main road could be fine, but secondary roads could be too dangerous.
@skippygirlsmom My daughter has been driving for 6-7 years and has yet to drive in nasty weather. Thank goodness. She has a little Honda Civic. I'm sure it'd handle like newly born Bambi out there.
It gets treacherous here. I just dread freezing temps and any precipitation. When we lived in Delaware, I don't remember the roads being too bad as they has lots of snow. We we're lucky to get a blizzard one year. Still went out for a pizza run and found out that ice sets up in the tires and causes noisy wobbling.5 -
@zdyb23456 It's the same here if there's even a chance of snow or ice, buses won't run. Main road could be fine, but secondary roads could be too dangerous.
@skippygirlsmom My daughter has been driving for 6-7 years and has yet to drive in nasty weather. Thank goodness. She has a little Honda Civic. I'm sure it'd handle like newly born Bambi out there.
It gets treacherous here. I just dread freezing temps and any precipitation. When we lived in Delaware, I don't remember the roads being too bad as they has lots of snow. We we're lucky to get a blizzard one year. Still went out for a pizza run and found out that ice sets up in the tires and causes noisy wobbling.
Until we bought her RAV4, my wife drove a Civic, for her first 10 years of driving. They actually handle weather well. FWD cars actually handle just fine in pretty much all weather, as long as people aren't driving them like idiots... RWD is more of a problem.2 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@zdyb23456 It's the same here if there's even a chance of snow or ice, buses won't run. Main road could be fine, but secondary roads could be too dangerous.
@skippygirlsmom My daughter has been driving for 6-7 years and has yet to drive in nasty weather. Thank goodness. She has a little Honda Civic. I'm sure it'd handle like newly born Bambi out there.
It gets treacherous here. I just dread freezing temps and any precipitation. When we lived in Delaware, I don't remember the roads being too bad as they has lots of snow. We we're lucky to get a blizzard one year. Still went out for a pizza run and found out that ice sets up in the tires and causes noisy wobbling.
Until we bought her RAV4, my wife drove a Civic, for her first 10 years of driving. They actually handle weather well. FWD cars actually handle just fine in pretty much all weather, as long as people aren't driving them like idiots... RWD is more of a problem.
That's good to know.1 -
I mentioned to dh today that I need to go to the gym and tough out a long walk while it was 30 and sunny. No takers.
The garage needs cleaned out so I can move the tm and use it without getting dizzy looking at the wall so closely... He's on it.
We need new furniture. "No way"... We went and just looked. I'll probably get new furniture now. Key is to act like you don't care.
Dh wants kids. Ug Nooo! Thats an ordeal. Gah! Pray it passes and he's fine with 3 cats and two dogs. He's up for fostering. Beyond my mental and emotional capacity. I ruined 3 already.
ETA I need to run.
dh needs to go run 
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@elise4270 our big thing here is ice when we get winter stuff, nothing is good to drive on ice. I'd rather drive on snow all day long.2
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I have an AWD vehicle with snow tires, otherwise I wouldn’t want to drive for about 4 months of the year.2
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RunsOnEspresso wrote: »This is in Breckenridge, CO.
I've been there several times! I am going snowshoeing in Breckenridge in March and hope to stop in while I am there.5 -
Took a real rest day on Friday while I was still recovering from my bad cold this week. Finally got a good night's sleep on Friday night so I felt considerably better today. Still wasn't entirely sure about running 10 mi after being sick for several days, but went out in the snow and felt OK. Also noticed that my resting heart rate has finally started coming back down again after the cold (it was about 10 bpm higher than normal most of the week). The run was cold and windy but ultimately not too bad. One week until my half marathon!
Jan 1 Travel day
Jan 2 Ran 4 mi + strength and stretching
Jan 3 Ran 3.4 mi + strength and stretching
Jan 4 Fail
Jan 5 Walked 18000 steps at Universal Studios
Jan 6 Fail because flight was delayed
Jan 7 Ran 8.0 mi trail and snow + strength and stretching
Jan 8 Ran 12.4 mi in slush + strength and stretching
Jan 9 Water walking + strength
Jan 10 Ran 6.2 mi + strength + stretching
Jan 11 Ran 4.0 mi + stretching
Jan 12 Rest
Jan 13 Ran 10.1 mi on snowy roads + stretching
Jan goal: 120 mi
Done: 48.1 mi
To go: 71.9 mi
Upcoming races:
Winter Night Trail Half Marathon Jan 20
2018 First 6 months plan:
Spring Fling 10K Feb 3
Bound the Mound Half Marathon Feb 24
OP 50/50 50K Mar 24
DINO Eagle Creek 15K Apr 7
April 28 Glacial Esker 20 mi Apr 28
DINO Muscatuck 15K May 5
DWD Gnawbone Marathon May 19
DINO Brown County 15K Jun 2
8 h @ Brown County Jun 16-17
DINO Griffin Park 15K Jun 23
Big goal for the fall: 50 miler before I turn 50!7 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
01/01/18 :::: 4.5 :::: 4.5
01/02/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 4.5
01/03/18 :::: 2.5 :::: 7.0
01/04/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 10.0
01/05/18 :::: 7.2 :::: 17.2
01/06/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 17.2
01/07/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 17.2
01/08/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 20.2
01/09/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 20.2
01/10/18 :::: 3.1 :::: 23.4
01/11/18 :::: 3.1 :::: 26.4
01/12/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 26.4
01/13/18 :::: 2.1 :::: 28.6
Just an easy shakeout run this morning before tomorrow's HM. It was 68 degrees and pretty humid - kind of a big change from Syracuse. Tomorrow is supposed to be something like 10 degrees cooler, so that should be nice, but still pretty humid.
I met a lot of people who are running the race tomorrow. It sounds like it's going to be a really fun atmosphere, and I aim to enjoy it as much as possible. Now I'm off to bed!
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@zdyb23456 - lol, no that would NOT be me running for 44! A HM is probably going to be my limit.
@MNLittleFinn - In northern states they have snow tires and chains or whatever. But in the South, we've got nothing! They don't even sell snow tires here. So, yes, people in states who get little snow/ice can't drive in the snow. Even growing up just outside of DC we didn't get much snow and the few times I had to drive it in (when I was maybe 20-24), it was very scary because there was just no experience.
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It's definitely scary living in a place where snow is an abnormality. I grew up in northern Missouri and learned how to drive on snow and ice from the start. These Okies are terrifying in winter driving conditions. They all seem to think their 4wd trucks can compensate for their raw stupidity...
A couple years ago, I drove the Pontiac (G8 GT) on a day that was supposed to be cold and clear. It ended up snowing and sleeting while I was at work and I got to drive home in it. I had very little trouble in my overpowered rwd (aside from stop lights, where it would go sideways at a dead stop if you forgot to put it in neutral
), but almost died a few times because of crazy impatient people in 4wds who thought they could go around me and lost control. Good times... 5 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@zdyb23456 It's the same here if there's even a chance of snow or ice, buses won't run. Main road could be fine, but secondary roads could be too dangerous.
@skippygirlsmom My daughter has been driving for 6-7 years and has yet to drive in nasty weather. Thank goodness. She has a little Honda Civic. I'm sure it'd handle like newly born Bambi out there.
It gets treacherous here. I just dread freezing temps and any precipitation. When we lived in Delaware, I don't remember the roads being too bad as they has lots of snow. We we're lucky to get a blizzard one year. Still went out for a pizza run and found out that ice sets up in the tires and causes noisy wobbling.
Until we bought her RAV4, my wife drove a Civic, for her first 10 years of driving. They actually handle weather well. FWD cars actually handle just fine in pretty much all weather, as long as people aren't driving them like idiots... RWD is more of a problem.
I had a mustang in Wisconsin. That was fun! We weighed the trunk down, which helped a bit. It would still fishtail sometimes despite me being careful.
I once drove home on sheer ice. A normal 10-15 drive took me like an hour. I was barely rolling along and saw a few cars in ditches. Another time I hit a patch of black ice on a freeway overpass, spun out. Police told me there was nothing I could have done because you can't see it and overpasses are usually the worse because the wind goes under the bridge and freezes the rain/sleet where it isn't freezing anywhere else. That was another day with multiple accidents. My mom came across 3 before she got to mine. After those, I decided it was time to move.3 -
10.47 km Misery Mtn Loop via Tims Hill with Ultra Runner Friend Dianne.
Only 2 of us braved the cold temps -20C = -4F.
Had my Watch in Bike mode so the data was a little funky ( 5km sections ) so had to change it to Running.
OCD me didn't worry about the 30m short of 10.5 due to the cold weather effect.
First run in 9 Days due to the Extreme Cold Weather. We normally go out at 9 am, waited until 2 pm to hit the warmest part of the day. 3 layers of Clothing Top and Bottom. On top Columbia Heat shirt, Mid Weight Fleece and High Vis Wind Shell with vent Zips. Bottom Light Fleece, Tights and Wind Pant. Used Mitt Shells with Liners allowing me to pull the Shell off and hold them in my hand once we warmed up ( at km 4 when we turned Nth with the wind at our back) actually had to pull the vent zips open and pull down my Face-neck warmer.
Quite happy overall especially considering the first 4 km were very icy so had to be very cautious. Most important We got out and EMBRACED THE SUCK
01/01 0.0 km – 0.0km –140.0 km – YTD 0 km
01/02 9.37 km –9.37km –130.63 km – YTD 9.37 km
01/04 11.0 km –20.37km –119.63 km – YTD 20.37 km
01/13 10.47km –30.84km –119.63 km – YTD 30.84 km
Garmin data claims we managed a 4:44 Min/Km pace, not sure how we managed to get going that fast but I will take/believe it.
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1/1 - 5.0 km
1/2 - 5.1 km
1/3 - strength + walk
1/4 - 5.7 km
1/5 - walk
1/6 - 8.1 km
1/7 - rest
1/8 - strength plus core
1/9 - 5.8 km
1/10 - strength plus core
1/11 - 5.5 km
1/12 - rest
1/13 - 10.4 km
45.6/80 km
I got outside today! First running up and down hills hauling kids on toboggans in the early afternoon and then out for a long run just before sunset. Well, long for me anyway! Started out at 1C and I felt overdressed for about the first 3-4km but after that the sun set and I was glad of the extra layer. It was around -5 by the time I got home.
I was really pleased with how consistent my pace was today - maybe an unexpected benefit of being stuck with the treadmill earlier in the week. The only slower splits were where I was stuck waiting for traffic.
Upcoming Races:
1/1/18 Resolution Run 5K ~38:00 (no official times)
3/4/18 MEC Road Race #1 10K
4/7/18 Jasper Half Marathon
4/22/18 MEC Trail Race #1 5K
5/20/18 MEC Trail Race #2 10K
6/24/18 MEC Trail Race #3 15K
8/18/18 Edmonton Marathon 10K
9/2/18 MEC Trail Race #4 10K
10/7/18 MEC Trail Race #5 15K13 -
The weather generally isn’t a factor here often, but we’ve got some crazy roads with no shoulders and ginormous ditches. I’ve seen so many vehicles in the ditch on this road near my house. School buses, a garbage truck once!, countless cars, vans, trucks, and suvs. No one is immune!
The road is tricky, but I also think cell phones have a great deal to do with it. There is zero grace if you aren’t paying attention!
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ceciliaslater wrote: »It's definitely scary living in a place where snow is an abnormality. I grew up in northern Missouri and learned how to drive on snow and ice from the start. These Okies are terrifying in winter driving conditions. They all seem to think their 4wd trucks can compensate for their raw stupidity...
A couple years ago, I drove the Pontiac (G8 GT) on a day that was supposed to be cold and clear. It ended up snowing and sleeting while I was at work and I got to drive home in it. I had very little trouble in my overpowered rwd (aside from stop lights, where it would go sideways at a dead stop if you forgot to put it in neutral ), but almost died a few times because of crazy impatient people in 4wds who thought they could go around me and lost control. Good times...
I was driving home (slowly) a few years ago during a whiteout in very deep snow when a guy in a Jeep zoomed by me. About 2 km later, I saw him on the side of the road, having clearly lost control. Then about 10 minutes later, he passed me again! It’s good that he was okay and able to get back on the road, but he obviously didn’t learn anything from the process.
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We ran today after all! Planned not to run because of the conditions on our walk last night, had a late breakfast, stepped outside to feed the birds and said, Ya know, the streets are almost sort of clear...
Almost being the operative word: the sunny parts of the street were thawed, the sidewalks were crusts of snow and patchy ice over water, and any shady patches or intersections were solid ice. Today was supposed to be a five mile long run, and we did go five miles, but it was more of a run/walk since we frequently had to stop and pick our way across ice. I told myself that any mile split we managed in under fourteen minutes I would count as running, and we did it, but just barely. We ran in the road facing traffic, which was mostly safe since few people were driving, but whenever a car approached we got on the sidewalk, stopped, and got ready to flee for our lives. Which was necessary once or twice!
We encountered three accidents in five miles, plus several extra special people who don't know how to drive on ice. Day before yesterday when we ordered delivery we mentioned how crazy the crowd at the grocery store was and our delivery driver said "If the weatherman so much as mentions snow, Memphians lose their tiny little minds..." and yep, that is about the size of it. Some poor fool stalled going up a hill on black ice and just sat there for several minutes trying to accelerate, spinning his wheels and slowly sliding backwards. Another guy in a big red truck pulled out of his driveway, lost traction, gunned it, went sideways across six lanes of solid ice, and right into a light pole not 100 yards from his house. We had to jump out of his way and run up onto someone's front porch to get away from him. At least he had a short walk back. The other two wrecks we didn't see, just heard from a distance - but that distinctive boom bumpy metallic crunch of a car hitting something solid is hard to mistake for anything else.
You could not pay me enough to drive in Memphis right now. Hopefully it will be better tomorrow.
Despite it only being about 24 degrees F we were pretty comfortable, including my hands - I managed to keep from touching anything wet, and the sun made a big difference.
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ceciliaslater wrote: »It's definitely scary living in a place where snow is an abnormality. I grew up in northern Missouri and learned how to drive on snow and ice from the start. These Okies are terrifying in winter driving conditions. They all seem to think their 4wd trucks can compensate for their raw stupidity...
A couple years ago, I drove the Pontiac (G8 GT) on a day that was supposed to be cold and clear. It ended up snowing and sleeting while I was at work and I got to drive home in it. I had very little trouble in my overpowered rwd (aside from stop lights, where it would go sideways at a dead stop if you forgot to put it in neutral ), but almost died a few times because of crazy impatient people in 4wds who thought they could go around me and lost control. Good times...
I was driving home (slowly) a few years ago during a whiteout in very deep snow when a guy in a Jeep zoomed by me. About 2 km later, I saw him on the side of the road, having clearly lost control. Then about 10 minutes later, he passed me again! It’s good that he was okay and able to get back on the road, but he obviously didn’t learn anything from the process.
Yeah, see that often. People think that 4WD will make them invincible on the roads. It helps, but it will do nothing for ice, not to mention stopping, and in all weather being stupid will kill you just as fast with 4WD... maybe faster.2 -
YTD Stats:
4,972’ gain
37 miles
Jan 13:
2mi 0gain
Walk & run at park
Looking forward to trail long run tomorrow.4 -
01/01/2018 - 3.0 miles
01/02/2018 - 4.0 miles
01/03/2018 - Rest Day
01/04/2018 - Unplanned Rest Day
01/05/2018 - 3.52 miles
01/06/2018 - Unplanned Rest Day
01/07/2018 - 2.52 miles
01/08/2018 - Rest Day Due to rain
01/09/2018 - 3.09 miles
01/10/2018 - Unplanned Rest Day
01/11/2018 - 4.0 miles on treadmill
01/12/2018 - 3.01 miles
01/13/2018 - 6.67 miles
Louisiana Quarter Marathon today. Saw a friend I have not seen in awhile and we ran at our slow pace and rearranged life along the way. Race is suppose to be 6.55 miles but my GPS says 6.67 so that is what I am recording. On my way to the race temperature was 29 F with a feel like of 23 F. It was sunny out and warmed up after the start of the race.
I broke the rule of nothing new on race day and wore a pair of fleeced lined tights I bought at the expo. They worked great during the race and I had no issues.
Loved the medal this year. If you ever have the opportunity to come run in the Louisiana Marathon it is a great weekend with lots of races and great food. Plus it is a race in my home state! The finish festival we had Jambalaya, crawfish etoufee and gumbo.
29.81/75 miles
Upcoming races (Question marks are races not yet registered for):
Louisiana Marathon Quarter Marathon - 01/13/2018
Mardi Gras Mambo 10K -02/17/2018
Q50 Races Sunset Gulf - 6.5 miles 3/24/2018
BIG EASY BIG HEART 5K 7/21/2018 - ?16 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@PastorVincent @AlphaHowls That road looks like my daily commute the last week or so. Do people really have a hard time navigating winter roads?
That picture of the roads looks like my daily commute all winter - without all the crashed vehicles and it looked like my run today.
I had a much bigger long winded post about winter driving and then realized that it had been well covered by everyone else already. Even though we are a Northern Climate we have more than our share of Dufus Winter Drivers, we had 3 crash's this week on the only bridge over the river - all caused by accelerating hard and hitting the famous Bridge/Overpass Black ice. Vehicle type, Tire condition, Road condition does not guarantee safe driving, the experience and attitude of the driver is the biggest factor. You can be experienced but be in a Dufus state of mind and be the biggest hazard.
4 Wheel drive just means you can get to the scene of the crash faster than those in a 2 Wheel drive.
Like many people in the north I have 2 complete sets of tires & rims for my RWD Truck, my winter tires have a softer rubber compound and more aggressive tread pattern for biting into snow/ice and self cleaning so they don't get packed full. Picture the difference between a running shoe and an Industrial Work Boot/Hiking Boot or between a trail shoe for dirt and a trail shoe for rock-mountains. Very different compound and tread pattern. I also have over 250 lbs of Sand/Salt in Pails as weight over my rear axle to give more pounds/Sq in on the tires = Traction. Which I can also use to spread on a road to improve traction.
If you ever go into a slide - Lift your foot off the accelerator, Look where you are going, Steer to where the vehicle is going. Never touch the Brake. Stabilize and drive in control before you try any secondary actions. You are safer inside your vehicle 20, 50, 100ft from the road than trying to force a recovery back onto the road. Also always stay inside your vehicle, if another out of control vehicle comes along would you want it to hit you standing on the side of the road or the metal cage of your vehicle? Towing is always cheaper than Autobody Repairs or personal injury.
As the Collision Analyst from the RCMP said many years ago you are safer off the road and in control of the vehicle than being out of control and crossing back and forth across the road. Every time you cross the road you have an increased chance of a collision with another vehicle or having a roll over. Those recovery motions that in-experienced drivers do usually result in the vehicle rolling over multiple times and the occupants being ejected - even with seat belts on you can be ejected, especially if it is just a lap belt.
Quite often I will do a Winter Road Condition Test - with no traffic on coming or close behind me.
I will stomp on the accelerator and if it starts to fishtail/spinout releasing the accelerator and a very small steering motion will return you to a straight line stable condition. NO BRAKING ALLOWED or REQUIRED.Because, *woo!* am I glad I'm not running anywhere near that!
@HRKinchen If you remove the vehicles that's exactly what my Running trails looked like today. Everything we do is based on our version of what " Normal " is. For me it was decent run except for a few Trail/Road crossings with Driver polished corners ( to much accelerator ), the rest was all good.
Waiting for today's run to be released and posted by MFP as I have the dreaded number 11Nine in my km log which gets pulled for evaluation by the MFP Spam Busters.
And this was my shortened post. I must be bored.8 -
Speaking of people who don't know how to drive in the snow...
Even living in a winter city we still have people who just don't have a clue... but think they do.13 -
@JessicaMcB @MNLittleFinn @7lenny7 and TrailHounds anywhere.
I will never get a FKT but it looks and sounds like a Trail you would all love.3 -
Came up a little short with 3.5 but I had to get to work 
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January 2018 runs:
01 Jan – 5 km parkrun 28:08
02 Jan – 21.2 km half marathon 2:12:33
04 Jan – 6.7 km
06 Jan – 5 km parkrun 29:09 so freaking warm!!
07 Jan – 18 km
10 Jan – 13.1 km
11 Jan – 11 km
13 Jan – 5 km parkrun 28:29 & made a new Strava friend
14 Jan – 16 km pretending to be a F1 racing driver
Jan goal: 170 km
Jan total: 101 km
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