WOMEN AGES 50 + FOR NOVEMBER 2018
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Been extremely busy. Weight is very, very slowly going down. I've been staying very close to my calorie goal. Just like Lucy I've been extremely hungry. I think my body is noticing I'm eating less and complaining.
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Michelle—My mom taught me to crochet when I was younger, and I only knew one stitch. I decided to relearn it, and taught myself how to do most stitches and read patterns. I actually made a blanket that won a blue ribbon at the NC State Fair. I still have trouble following patterns in the round. There are many tutorials on youtube if you need a visual guide. I've learned several stitches that way. The hardest part of crochet, is learning how to hold and turn the hook. My grandma could knit and crochet. She made the granddaughters ponchos one year. She was a busy crafter.
Willow—Good luck with your oldies. Intention is key.
Lisa—I am so envious! I've written four books, but haven't yet figured out what to do with them to get them on Amazon. Every time I think I've got it figured, they change the rules. I'm not technical, so the terminology confounds me, and so I edit one more time. I admire someone who can write poetry. It's definitely an art. I can write pages and pages of fiction, but the imagery—and brevity—in poetry eludes me.
Paige—Your fur family is adorable. I've got a chow chow dog we sort of rescued, when he didn't get along with his owner's other dogs. Then we found out his owner got him from a puppy mill, and he was never socialized. He's afraid of everything, so even a kitten would probably stress him out. I'd love to add another pet to the family, but I don't know how he'd react, and it's not worth the risk.
Heather—You are so active; you're an inspiration! Split peas with ham sounds wonderful. The first time I had it, it was cooked all day on an old wood stove. Maybe I should ask for an instant pot for Christmas?
Today I went shopping with my DMIL, just because it was nice out. I bought some clothes that were two sizes smaller than I wore last year. It felt great to choose based on what I liked, rather than what fit and wasn't too tight. I'm enjoying wearing pants with buttons and zippers—not just elastic. I'm pulling clothes from the back of my closet, and wearing things I haven't had on for years. I've got a bag of clothes I plan to donate, and I toss anything that looks baggy and sloppy in there.
I'm still not pleased with the image in the mirror when I undress, but it's going to take time. It took me five years to get this fat, so it'll probably take at least a year to take it off. I love that my mind and focus are steady.
Gratitude calendar: Knowledge—I'm going to have to say reading. I know people who don't read well, or don't enjoy reading, and I can't comprehend how they cope with such a deficit. Writing is a close second for me.
I'm off to a dinner of chicken, vegetable, and noodle soup. I've got enough calories left, I could probably even have some bread or crackers.2 -
Llll0
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I started my day with two long dog walks, grocery shopping, more dog walking,a bit of yard work, over an hour on the exercise bike, and then got drowsy and lay down for what turned out to be a two hour nap. I found all the necessary serving pieces for Thanksgiving dinner and put a note on the calendar to take the turkey out of the freezer in the morning to defrost. We love Thanksgiving and the opportunity to focus on gratitude. We don't celebrate Christmas so this is our big holiday.
Pip, I love that curtain. What a personal and creative solution.
Michele, I learned to crochet at a class at the local yarn shop. My mom taught me to knit when I was six years old.
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Hi pals. By the time I catch up reading, my eyes are blurry lol.
Penny- I have been thinking about your Mom and sister having Macular Degeneration. I was diagnosised 15 years ago.
I was part of a 6 year research study on the formulary for AREDS 2 at UTSWMC in Dallas. Did either of your family members see a retina specialist? In just the last two years they have new treatments. I wish them the best.
Lisa- you are a treasure and the intrem ceo doesn’t know what she will be missing.
KJ- Joaquin isn’t my grand baby but I love him. I think he is very smart to know how to call you.
Never got to answer what I do for fun but I love to play golf, bridge, yoga and read.
Better stop for now.
SueBDew in TX1 -
Did Gin Miller’s Simply Endurance DVD today. The plan for tomorrow is to do the Lower Body Pilates DVD.
Willow – you go girl!
Barbara – yup, Vince said to go to the bathroom when we went bowling and not at home. The main reason was because we had gotten so much rain[ that the septic was pretty well full. If I used the bathroom somewhere else, I could flush. LOL Actually, I went to the Y yesterday and there was one lady there taking a shower! She never takes a full shower there. I’m sure it was because of all the rain, this way there was less water going into her system. If only we could have sent that rain to California!
Irish Terry – how I wish we celebrated Thanksgiving like the Canadians – in early October. Thanksgiving gets lost between Halloween and Christmas. The next town over had their Christmas parade and tree lighting last night. It isn’t even Thanksgiving yet!
You know what’s one thing I’m thinking about? How can I get a workout when I’m at Denise’s in May? She said they just signed for a townhouse and should be moving in March. It must be a new build because I can’t figure why it would take so long. And then if there are delays….. I will probably be there for about a month, but if she’s not moved in I won’t have anywhere to stay and I don’t want to stay at a hotel for a month! We’ll go broke. That is, UNLESS someone else pays for it, and I don’t see that happening.
Lisa – congrats on getting that grant! I know you’ll just kill that interview with the CEO
Made chicken to have later in the week and two batches of snickerdoodle cookies, one for us and one for Lynette. I still want to make the lemon ricotta cookies for us and if there’s a lot I’ll give some to Lynette for her open house. I seem to recall that the last time I made ricotta cookies, there were a lot. I don’t need that many.
Barbie and Willow – I agree that I like to see people in videos who aren’t stick thin. Also, every age level. Leslie Sansone’s DVD’s usually have people of all ages in them
Paige – we just came in to take a break for lunch. We were putting out Christmas decorations, too. Putting out decorations in a t-shirt….now this is the way it’s SUPPOSED to be! What a sweet kitty…but I’m partial to kitties.
Now I’m frying up these chicken patties to have for breakfast one of these days. I don’t know why, but they are splattering so much.
Pip – that curtain was made for you.
Kelly – went to church and then went to WalMart Neighborhood Market, mainly because I wanted to see if they carried the bleach in the concentration we need for the pool (which they don’t). Anyway, I passed by this box of Pampers and there was this baby on it. It looked just like Joaquin! Are you SURE he isn’t modeling???
Cari – congrats on buying those clothes
I need some words of wisdom from you ladies. I’m feeling pretty down right now. First Denise tells us that she and Pete signed to buy a townhouse but it won’t be ready until March. Whenever there’s a new build, there are always delays. I was planning to be up there (hopefully in her townhouse) for about 2 weeks before the baby is due and then 2 weeks after it’s born. I know, that’s a lot. Now I’m concerned that it won’t be ready and I’ll have no place to stay. Vince keeps telling me that we should just wait to see how this plays out, that it might be done on time since it’s not custom built. Today she told us that there’s going to be coming here in the evening of the 16th and leaving the 18th. After all this time I only get about a day and a half! I guess I’m feeling a bit sorry for myself because I don’t get to see my daughter. Katla, I know that you’re dealing with something like this. I need something to think to myself so that I don’t start crying when we have our Christmas dinner the 17th. I don’t have as much of a problem that we aren’t celebrating Christmas on the 24th or 25th. Jess and Colby have been here almost every year, this year they’re going to see Colby’s family. OK, that I can live with. But to only see Denise for about 2 days! You ladies are so smart, give me something I can keep saying to myself over and over so that I don’t start to cry. I know that if I start crying, it won’t make much of a difference to Denise (which will hurt me even more) but Jess will take it to heart and it’ll ruin her Christmas and then Colby’s. That’s not fair to them.
Right now I’m making lemon ricotta cookies for Pete. Personally, I don’t care for this recipe. I like the other one I have but adding lemon to it. After this, no more cookies!
I must be a really bad mother. I have a son that I haven’t seen in 5 years and hasn’t spoken to me in about 2 of them. He even decided to become a citizen of another country! Then I have a daughter that I get to see for two days/year, and once the baby comes that’ll probably be reduced even more.
Michele in NC
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My sister-in-law posted this and I thought it was good ...
Nov 1 - smell. My roses.
Nov 2 - technology. Social media and staying connected with family and friends.
Nov 3 - colour. Blue. The blue of the mouth of the river/bay/start of the ocean out my window. The blue of the sky. My new blue sleeping top that was nice and comfy last night.
Nov 4 - food ... cheese. I ate a lot of grilled cheese sandwiches when my husband was in hospital. They were my comfort food. Also cheese has calcium which I think I need. Unfortunately, cheese does tend to be a bit high in calories so I shouldn't eat too much of it. But anything cheese-y is comforting.
Nov 5 - sound. I like listening to the waves and the birds, but I think the sound I'm most grateful for today is my husband's voice. Just the fact that we can talk to each other again.
Nov 6 - "What in nature are you grateful for?" ... That's hard to narrow down to one thing. Oxford dictionary describes nature as "the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth". I am grateful for all of it. I find that getting out into any sort of nature helps to relieve stress.
Nov 7 - "What memory are you grateful for?" ... Another one with so many choices!!! Recently, I've been grateful for two memories. 1) June 2017 ... my husband and I had a wonderful visit to Canada and did several things to make great memories ... hiking, cycling, visiting my family. I clung onto those memories during the months he was in hospital. 2) When I was 9 years old, my family moved away from where my grandmother lived. One of of the last days there, my grandmother took me to her window and showed me a full moon outside. She told me that on every full moon, we could both look at it and know that even though we were far apart, we were both looking at the same moon. That's a memory which has stuck with me all these years, and every time I see a full moon, I think of my grandmother. She's 97 years old ... but not doing so well ... so I've been thinking of her a lot. And I've also been very glad that my husband and I were able to see her when we visited Canada in June 2017.
Nov 8 - "What book are you most grateful for?" That's easy ... The Bible.
I've enjoyed reading all your memories.
Love the discussion about books!
Nov 9 - "What place are you most grateful for?" This is not an easy one for me because I don't have the sense of "home" that many people have. I've moved too much for that.
So ... I've had to give this one some thought. What place?
Well ...
I'm grateful for our current house. It's comfortable enough. It's not very big so it's fairly easy to manage. And it has a great garden which my husband has been able to work in since returning home from his accident. It is also close to a couple beaches, which is nice.
Nov 10 - Taste! Hmmm ... salt. In the "Do you crave sweet or salty" discussion, I fall on the "salty" side.
As it happens, I have a diminished sense of taste and smell for whatever reason, so I divide foods into the basic tastes: sweet, salty, sour or bitter, and from there it's harder to distinguish precise flavours. Although, I do seem to have some odd tastes like, for example, meat and tomato taste metallic to me, and I don't like that. If I salt them well, the metallic taste goes away and they taste salty, which is OK.
Then, one of the side effects of my husband's accident is that he has lost most of his sense of taste and smell. He has regained a little bit, and they say it should return very gradually. But he'll comment that dinner has no flavour, and I'll think, "It just tastes salty to me. Is there supposed to be more flavour than that?"
Nov 11 - What holiday are you grateful for? Christmas!!!
I've always loved Christmas. I even picked up 3 Christmas CDs yesterday. I like having a decent amount of time off ... not just one day ... so I can get things done. I like all the decorations. I like the music. I like the services and celebrations.
Nov 12 - Texture. Smooth. Very, very smooth. Clothing with no texture. Textured clothing is unwearable. Smooth clothing is good.
Nov 13 - Abilities. Right now, it would have to be organisation. While I feel like I'm in the midst of a chaotic whirlwind (and have been for the past 8 months) and I don't feel very organised, surprisingly enough, stuff is getting done.
Maybe I should include things like endurance and tenacity ... "skills" I've honed from my long distance cycling carrying over to "real life".
Nov 14 - Sight. What sight am I grateful for? The ever-changing view out the window of our house looking over the bay and the surrounding hills. Right now it's all grey and misty but it still looks good.
Nov 15 - Season. The season I am most grateful for is summer. I love summer. I'd love it if the year were divided so that there was 1 month of winter, 1 month of spring, 2 months of autumn, and 8 months of real summer weather. We're coming into summer here and I appreciate each and every summer-like day.
Nov 16 - What about your body are you grateful for?
Sometimes I think ... "less and less" these days because I'm literally falling apart.
But ... I'm grateful for my legs which are one of my main methods of transportation.
Nov 17 - What knowledge are you grateful for? -- The tacit knowledge of cycling. Being able to ride a bicycle. It has taken me all over the world. It's how my husband and I met. It is stress relief. And it is part of my husband's healing process.
https://www.brainline.org/blog/getting-back-bike/what-brain-derived-neurotrophic-factor-and-why-you-should-care
Machka in Oz
Nov 18 - What piece of art are you grateful for?
That's a difficult one. I've taken an Art History course, and enjoyed it very much. And I like going to galleries. But I haven't really felt a connection to any particular pieces.
However, the one that is probably my favourite piece is:
Umberto Boccioni, Dynamism of a Cyclist, 1913
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamism_of_a_Cyclist
Machka in Oz
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Just checking in as I get sleepy with my antihistamines and my omeperazole kicks in so I can lay down.
Penny and SueBDew—have begun the macular degeneration journey with my mom, so different than with my father in law. She has been to the retinal specialist and had 3 treatments/injections to stop the progress. It seems to be stabilizing.
Michele—how we struggle with our children! Since June, we have run the gamut with our youngest. She just turned 20 two weeks ago. She is adopted, we were connected when she was 5 days old, but was 15 months by the time she came home with us from Guatemala. In June, my husbands cousin found her birth family and our daughter has been doing everything possible to go to live with them. And while we cannot stop her, trying to get her there safely and as connected online as possible so she can continue college online, it has been a nightmare. For months I have been “you”, no longer her mom just someone who lives there. The last month has been better, but only because of the lies and deception going on down there that have really hurt her. She is clueless on how she has ripped that family apart and hurt us beyond measure. The day after Christmas we will make our 4th trip down there and she will be staying—how long is anyone’s guess. I understand the need for her to do this and her birth mother is not well. While she has always known she was adopted and we have been helping her and supporting her the last 8 years to find her family, never did I ever think it would be like this. I understand the tears, they come every day. Prayers and therapy, that’s what is getting me through this mess, and hope that the baby steps continue to happen to heal us. Hugs for you, and a listening ear I can be.
Talking about knowledge today—seems that I am a lifelong learner with such a thirst for knowledge and passing it along. Nursing tends to put you on that path. I have done much teaching, too, from religious education to substitute teaching in the grade school to educating my fellow nurses on the job. I have spent the last 4 years getting my masters degree in nursing education, I finished in March. Knowledge is a power in your life and something that no one can take from you.
Off to bed!
Love from KY,
Kathy4 -
#16 Body - my hair. I got it from my Grandma.
#17 Knowledge - my Mom's pearls of wisdom.
#18 Art - my brother's:
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My 9 year old granddaughter swam beautifully at her swim meet today, shaving seconds off all of her best times! She surprised herself. So fun to watch. She is on the right.
Karen in Virginia
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Kim: it is so good to see you post! :flowerforyou:
Pip: I love the curtain. It is full of personality & perfect for the two of you and your home. :bigsmile:
Dana: Add me to the list of people who love your dog. What a great photo!
(((Michelle))) You have a tender heart and I have sympathy for you. My kids are half a continent and a whole continent away from us and it is unlikely that we will see any of them before spring. The holidays are tough. We have been invited to DSIL’s for Thanksgiving, but DH doesn’t want to go because of food issues. He is on a restricted diet, and can't eat most of what his sister cooks. His sister cooks as she has always cooked and can’t understand that many of those foods make him sick—such as anything with wheat in it, fresh garlic, onions . . .It is easier to stay home than to try to explain. We could take the RV and cook for ourselves in the spring or summer, but don’t consider it safe in the winter season. The roads between here and her place lead through mountain ranges and are often icy at this time of year. We won’t make that drive in the RV until spring or summer. :ohwell:
Machka: I love the art piece. The colors pull me in, and the shapes are full of movement.
Barbie: I love your kitty and the green blanket. :bigsmile:
Kathy from KY: Welcome to a great group. :flowerforyou:
Willow: Welcome. There are several women living in Washington State, and several in Oregon, too. I hope you’ll post often and get to know us. :flowerforyou:
TerriRichards: Thanksgiving is one of the best holidays ever created. It brings people together to share a meal and the comradery of friends and family without the stress of gift giving. Last year we went to visit DSIL for Thanksgiving and had a lovely time. This Thanksgiving we are unlikely to travel and may have the holiday with only the two of us.. :ohwell: I wonder if we can change that situation. Skype is better than nothing, I guess.
17: What knowledge are you grateful for? There are so many things to choose from. Knowing how to read is my choice for today. Reading expands my understanding and leads me to new knowledge and ideas. It connects me with other readers and writers, and friends here. It provides entertainment.
Katla in beautiful NW Oregon4 -
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TerriRichardson112 wrote: »I'm glad we don't celebrate Thanksgiving Day in the UK. I have enough problems with Christmas. Lol!
We don't celebrate it here in Australia either.
I miss the Canadian Thankgiving a little bit. It was always a lovely 3 days off ... quiet, relaxing, no pressure, small family gathering, and usually nice enough I could get out for 3 days of cycling.
M in Oz2 -
Morning Ladies~
woke up around 4:30 this morning,,, and I had my tea and watched Joyce... have a load of laundry in the washer...
I am really thinking about maybe after the first of the year getting a washer dryer combo that does both... downsides it take between 3-5 hrs to wash and dry and they dont have the hot out of the dryer feel,having one in my hall closet would be more convenient for me, but at what cost, the pro's and cons something to think about...
Here is hoping the closing is this week sometime.....
Michelle I am going to a cookie swap and would love the recipe for the lemon ricotta cookies with the lemon in it... thanks in advance...2 -
Michelle You are a strong woman with a giant heart I don't have the same circumstances that you have but I do know that we raise our kids to be launched into this world, they make their own mistakes and have their own victories apart from us. No matter how brief your time together is, spend it in the moment, not measuring it against anyone elses time. I say this sincerely, not as a judgment cause I really can feel how painful this is to you. When I'm deep in a cycle of anxiety I will talk myself out of it, fake it till you make it, is often my mantra. If you feel some tears coming on, pretend you are having the time of your life and look for what is going on that is funny or delightful or happy--focus on finding that happy while they are right in front of you. You will enjoy yourself more and they will too! I think your DH is right, don't go borrowing trouble before there is any (about the timing of the construction).
I'm headed to the gym first thing, it really does anchor me, then off to meal prep for a shorter work week (yippee). DH and I will have a quiet couple thanksgiving, I'll make some things he likes and some things I like, we'll also skype with family. My daughter comes home from South Africa next Sunday until her spring semester starts mid-January. Should be interesting.
NYKAREN4 -
Morning, afternoon and evening, all...
Michele, you are such an amazing woman, and I'm sorry this is hurting you. The only advice I can give you is the only advice that's helped me in situations that I knew were going to be stressful - and as you may have noticed, I don't always take my own advice, so please take it with a grain of salt! What's hurting you is not Denise's actions, but your own expectation that it should be different. You can't change Denise's actions, you can only change your expectations. If you can change your expectation to one that the two days you have for Christmas with them will be glorious and joyful, and hold onto that, it may help. If you can change your expectation to one that you will be in a nearby hotel while you're there for the baby's birth, and find one with an indoor pool that you can enjoy even in cold weather, then it will be a pleasant surprise if the townhouse is done in time. Just "flipping" your expectations may help you change the way you approach it. As my husband once told me, once they're past 13, you can only parent your children as much as they will let you.
And, for all you amazing women who have supported me through these recent weeks in my work struggles, my gratitude knows no bounds. I'm walking into this interview on Tuesday believing it's the right thing for me to do. My expectation is that I will be my relaxed, professional and quietly charming self. I know I will be able to show to them that I'm coming off a very successful year for my previous council, and would be pleased to use my abilities for the benefit of girls in my new home state. That is both my perception and backed up with hard data.
And because I'm THAT kind of girl, I'm also walking in with a Plan "B," in my pocket (as well as all of you!) so I don't feel pressured. I've developed a budget through May of 2020, both with and without me working. At Corey's current rate of pay, we can not only survive, but thrive, even if I don't make a dime, and even start putting money away again. I will not be walking in desperate for a job, I will be walking into the interview as someone who chooses to work in this arena because I have something to offer. It's unspoken, but it changes the equation, and gives me the quiet assurance I need for this situation.
And now, I'm going to go get some fresh bread baking, for the first time in my new (to us) house! Fingers crossed the yeast survived the trips cross-country, or I'm going to be making an early morning Walmart run.
Love y'all!
Lisa in AR5 -
#16 that this body still works!
Karen in VA loved the comfy shoe insights and your brother's beautiful art.
Machka walking in the Botanical Gardens, how healing for your DH.
KJ and Lisa richly enjoy your so-deserved days off!
Paige your grandboys fit right in with our other cuties, Joaquin, Olivia, Mia et al.
Lanette "hope the weatherman is right and rain hits the west coast from Thanksgiving" From your mouth to God's ear!
Willow Remember? I still HAVE "Sweating to the Oldies". Perhaps there are some gentle chair exercises on YouTube? Movement might help you feel better. My BFF was agoraphobic so I know what huge steps running even a few errands are.
Rebecca (((hugs)))
Lin OWwww sounds like something I'd do.
Katla re: Uber, I am so with you on that. Got a cauld grue when I first heard some of my (beautiful, young, female) co-workers talking about "ubering it home last night". At least with a car service or taxi there are licenses, some official oversight, accoutability.
Machka even more beautiful than the surroundings are the looks on your and your DH's faces. Thanks!
Lisa your poem. Brava on the grant and for having the willpower not to "neener neener" the interim CEO... at least not til the other job signs on the dotted line :devil:
Cari shopping for smaller sizes? Great NSV. Well done!
Welcome Kathy in KY "knowledge is... something that no one can take from you." Truest words ever!
Michelle (((hugs)))
Barbie thanks for the reminder to take the turkey out of the freezer. Its just a bone-in breast, any idea how many days to thaw?
#17 has to be the ability to read. Thank you Mama for teaching me how long before kindergarten. Likewise for teaching me how to "look it up" in the decades before Google was a verb.
Ran into a T'ai Chi buddy at the grocery store. When I said we missed her from class the past little while she explained her daughter and family lost their home and everything in it in the Paradise fire, yet consider themselves lucky as they all got out alive. Reminds how connected we all are and no disaster leaves us all untouched.
You all mean so much to me, you now make up more than half the morning prayer list.
Lighter, lovelies!
Barbara, the Southern Oregon Coastie AHMOD.
walk one more step 15/17, 60 g protein 14/17, rx/vits 15.5/17, meditate 15/17, knee exercises 16/17, SWSY UP 3/8, SWSY LOW 2/8, core 3/8, play with Tumble 8/17, hang up or purge art 0/4 AF 13/17.
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well , got the creamed onions done and in a crock pot on warm until the pot luck this afternoon,,, as I was making it brought back memories of my grandpa Scott.. he always loved creamed onions and I did too, we would always go get my grandma's brother Uncle Walter who was struck with polio as a child and never married, he was in a nursing home about 45 min away and we would bring him up for the day... lol lord we had a bunch of alcoholic's at that house on the holidays, but never got obliterated or nasty... My grandpa drank Scotch on the rocks.. how I remember that is beyond me and Uncle Walter drank Flieshmanns's preferred whiskey on the rocks.... and bless his heart like I said I was pouring drinks early .. I can remember him sitting in the wing back chair with his glass and pointing to me and saying ,hey put a little more in there lol.. back then even at the nursing home they would let him have one shot of it a day..
My mom on the other hand drank Cold Duck.. which was some type of disgusting stuff, and she was a happy drunk this is what I remember when I was older... I was 20 when my grandpa died, and Walter passed away before that,but the smells on Thanksgiving bring me back... the smell of the Turkey roasting .. helping my mom with the cooking and always watching the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade... when I walked around the house with my son the other day that is what I remember, the holidays , all the fun we had there, my house was the hang out,and my mom the cool mom.. so I am so blessed to have those memories that no one can ever take away... well better get her highness up and dressed and fed, and dropped back off at her parents... then down to feed DFIL and back here to clean and get ready for the pot luck... since I am one of the younger ones here I try and help where needed, so I am helping sell 50/50 raffle tickets for the social club...
I also sent an email off to the coordinator of the hospice volunteers and will try and plan on doing that , there is training and a mentorship before your on your own... but it feels like something I am called to do..5 -
Lisa: I love your advice to Michele, and also your plan for your upcoming interview. Fingers and toes crossed for you. Personally, I think your will do very well in the interview.
Barbara the Southern Oregon Coastie: I understand how you feel about this group of women. I feel the same way.
I seem to be coming down with a cold. My nose is starting to get runny & I feel pressure in my sinuses. The things I used to take for colds are off my island. Does anyone have any recommendations in addition to water, peppermint tea and coffee?
Katla in beautiful NW Oregon
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