WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR DECEMBER 2018
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Barbie Oh dear. I am going to have to ask my partner if the process we have gone/are going through seems long & painful to her. I so hope not. I am definitely more frugal than she is! I would say that she has an "abundance" mentality and I have a "live beneath your means" mentality.
Having said that, we have a comfortable & maintained home, quality mattresses, good cars (one old & one new), & reliable appliances. We eat delicious food. We take excellent care of our dogs. We contribute to 529 plans for all our grandchildren. And we travel occasionally.
Karen in Virginia5 -
I do think it is good to periodically review finances and make sure wills, trusts, and beneficiaries are up to date. As Allie found out this is more for your loved ones. Unfortunately it is another thing to add to the list.1
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Lisa - In my first marriage everything was shared. There was no his and hers. But when you both have children from previous marriages and marry late in life, it becomes a bit more difficult. Last night I did mention the fact that most married couples share their money from one pot, which set him off into a crying jag. He felt I was accusing him of hiding his money from me. Personally, I think he is of an age , 73, to start spending some of his savings, but he finds that difficult.
I am also having problems getting him to agree to Lasting Power of Attorney, as Machka mentioned. If he was mentally afflicted I would not be able to get at his money to pay for his care. For some reason he is very resistant to the idea of LPOA. I would share it with one of his daughters, so there us no danger of me running off with the money!
We have a joint account, into which is paid our Old Age Pension, from the government. Mine is much less than his. From that account the main household bills are paid by direct debit. He tops it up from time to time if it gets low. We each pay for our own holidays from our own accounts. He pays for the car, which is why I am reluctant to drive it.
His previous partner of 25 years was a high flying head mistress who never wanted to get married. That led to a few problems when she was dying as he was not next of kin. She did not even make a will, but her mother gave him the inheritance. He was named as the teacher's lump sum beneficiary.
It all makes for a complicated situation. He has about ten different savings accounts. :noway:
He left his first marriage with nothing, giving his wife the house etc. He had two small daughters. He paid maintenance for them and barely scraped by for years, living in bedsits.
My feeling is that now is the time to enjoy his money, but you can't easily change an older person's mindset.
Been for my run and did a decent time - for me. DH walked beside me.
Must marzipan my cake now and cancel the cruise.
Love Heather UK xxxxxxx3 -
I have found the financial discussion quite interesting. My Grandparents were “before their time”. They had separate accounts their full 56 years of life. Grammie paid some bills and Grampie paid others. At Christmas and birthdays it was clearly made known if it was a gift from her, him or them. Since she has passed and I have read her diaries it is clearly noted who bought what and if the other “paid back” their portion of a shared expense.
My Mom never worked and didn’t even have a bank account until she started collecting her old age pension. Even at that my Dad had the final say over it as my Mom was terrible with money. Hence, a year after my Dad passed my brother had to take over control of my Moms money for her.
My husband and I have done both joint and separate, he has no interest in knowing about our finances and as long as he has money in his account when he goes to buy something he’s fine. I don’t like this but have been unable to get him to contribute.
Have a couple more projects to work on today, tomorrow and Friday are busy days.
Tracey in Edmonton
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i usually never chime in on discussions but i have a minute this time.
re finances:
In my first marriage everything was shared. There was no his and hers.
In my second marriage everything was shared. There was no his and hers.
In my third marriage everything was shared. There was no his and hers.
In my fourth and current marriage everything is shared. There are no his and hers.
i never quite understood the separate bank account thing either, but hey, whatever works, to each his own.
when i was with kirby b4 we married, really quick he said that he wanted to put his microsoft stock in both our names and if he kicked the bucket, i would get it.. i was like, woah dude... hang on, i'm not comfortable with that yet, what if your family starts thinking i am with you for your mula $$$. i made him hold off. in all of my other marriages, i was the one that dealt with the $$ and the bills, etc. kirby is the 1st marriage where he was used to being in charge. i was paying the bills in the beginning. we have different styles of paying, as soon as i get a bill, i pay. he's more the wait til he has to, like by the due date, which makes me nervous. after talking and discussing our different styles, i told him i would give it up and let him have control, but the minute i started seeing late fees, etc, it was on. so far so good, no issue and if there was, the late fee was removed after him calling.
i am pretty cheap when it comes to me, we both have the same outlook on money and spending. we're both $$ saver kind of people. i have direct deposit and i don't remember when we get paid, it just goes in. i don't look at the bank account but when i do, i see what's in there. he talks to me b4 making a big purchase and i can veto it if i don't want get it. his goal is to have 40k in the savings by the time we retire and over 1mil in accessts, etc..he is over 1 goal (over the 1mil) now we are working on the other. so i'm glad we are the in the same way of thinking about spending, working and saving.
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Mary Poppins I can't wait to see it! Anyone else?3
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When we were first married and I didn't work, my DH paid the bills. When we moved into our first house, he missed paying the water bill and it got cut off. I was so embarrassed that I took over paying all the utility bills, mortgage, etc. just to make sure it all got paid on time.
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Our money is all in one pot even though my pension is much larger than Jake's and most of our nest egg is the result of a modest inheritance from my parents. Many of our big expenses have been for his children and his desire to change vehicles more often than I would. We have many "loving discussions" about money. At the start, I was overly frugal and Jake was relaxed and casual about spending money. We have both mellowed. Now, that we're at the age to spend our nest egg, our feeling is that we'd rather have something good for us than save it so Jake's kids can have it after we're gone. So now we have a great car, new stove, and improved vision for Jake. It has been a long painful process to get to this.
Barbie
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My name is Jessica and I am new to this discussion board (is that what it is called?), so please forgive me for just jumping into this with an introduction and feel free to tutor me on how to use this feature of MFP. If there is a more appropriate place to intro myself (I am well over 50 and could use, and maybe offer, support on fitness goals), let me know. In the meantime, I apologize for interrupting the thread of discussion about finances to intro myself here. I just really want to get started and don’t know how else to do it.
I am not new to MFP as a tracking tool, but, after two recent messages from two different doctors that losing 25-30 lbs would greatly enhance my well being, and after some frustrating attempts at going it alone, I am doubling down on my efforts and am feeling determined to do whatever it takes. So that’s it. Hello and thank you to anyone who reads this!6 -
Welcome Jessica We are a chatty bunch, please drop in often, the conversations vary wildly. Let us know a little bit about yourself, location, etc. I have found dropping in helps with accountability with logging, exercising etc. Lots of motivation and support on this thread.
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Ah, finances... my first marriage we shared everything and when I left I left with a small inheritance I got from my grandmother (which allowed me to leave basically). It's a long story. My second marriage was a manic mistake and we didn't share anything, including finances. This is my third and final marriage and he's the only breadwinner so there's nothing to share. I am disabled and do not qualify for disability. He says it's "our" money, and so I guess it is, but since I have bipolar and have been known to go on manic spending sprees in the past, I leave the finances in his hands. It's just better that way.
Willow in WA4 -
Welcome Jessica! Don't worry. We discuss lots of topics. You aren't interrupting.
Karen in Virginia1 -
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Hi Jessica! We don't often talk about money, but I'm afraid I started the discussion. This group has found that most deep issues, whatever they are, affect the way we eat. Money can be an emotional issue for many. I have been tempted to drink alcohol these last two days out of frustration, but have managed to limit myself to one drink (2 units). In the past I would have had another, but I am learning something in my old age. :laugh:
Just a few last presents to wrap for the grandchildren. I still have to do DH's Santa presents, but need a quiet moment. We open them first thing in bed.
Love Heather UK xxxxxxx
PS - I cancelled the cruise. Lost the very large deposit, but our heart wasn't in it. Not to say our bank accounts. I still have the one in September /October to look forward to for my 70th birthday. I know we will have loads of lovely things to do here next year.8 -
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Felicia - He doesn’t have any grandchildren of his own. His daughters, too old now to have children, are both visiting over the Christmas period. He regards my grandchildren as the most wonderful bonus of his life. And of course they adore him. Max is coming to play on Friday. They are great friends. He lights up when the kids are around. And they have eyes for no one else. :laugh:
Oh, I can see that in the pictures you've posted and how you describe their relationship. I had two grandfathers and a step-grandfather, and my step-grandfather was much more a grandfather to me than the other two. He was always just "grandpa."
The move sounds like it was overall a positive step for both of you, but speaking as someone who suffers often from buyers remorse, I kind of understand how your DH may be smarting a little. As he sees the benefits of the move, perhaps the sting of the financial hit will weaken.
Felicia
Willamette Valley, Oregon1 -
KetoneKaren wrote: »Mary Poppins I can't wait to see it! Anyone else?
Do you want to go with my husband? He really wants to see it. I am not sure. But of course, I will go.
Felicia
Willamette Valley, Oregon1 -
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This turned into a long rant, so you don't have to read if you don't want to.
Abbreviated version -- first marriage -- everything pooled together. Second (current) marriage -- everything separate.In my first marriage, everything was pooled into one account. He was a horrible manager of money, and would write checks against money we didn't have. Ran up credit card debts we couldn't pay. Bought a luxury car that he let run down so badly that it was towed to an impound lot (stalled at the side of the highway for too long), and there it sat, while I had to continue paying for it for 2-3 years. He owed income taxes on his law practice income . . . It was horrible. Truly. Every month was a struggle. The IRS gave me a pass on the income tax he owed because I had paid taxes on my income. That ticked him off. He thought I should have paid because I "benefited" from his income. But I was already paying off his credit card debt and car (that was no longer being driven by anyone), not to mention the mortgage on the house we bought together (that I and the kids were still living in) to try to salvage my credit. I didn't think I should also be on the hook for the 10s of thousands of income tax he owed.
So, my current husband and I keep everything separate. We do have a couple credit cards with both names, but they really belong to one or the other of us. I don't charge on "his" cards and he doesn't charge on "mine." We have separate checking/savings accounts, but I do have a checkbook to "his" account that I use to pay for our son's cello lessons, lunches, and other school expenses that need a check. (I don't have paper checks for my account and rarely carry cash.)
When we first married, he wasn't working and was going to school, so I paid for everything. Unfortunately, that set a bad precedent, so that when he did start working, He just paid me $1000 a month and eventually, stopped doing that. It was a real hardship for me, and I was frustrated, but he didn't consider any of our home expenses "his" expenses since it was "my" house and "my kids." (As a side note, he also didn't/doesn't help out with household chores because, "You really expect me to do your kids' dishes? and take out their garbage? You were doing it before, so what's the big deal?") Sigh.
He now makes twice as much as I do, literally, so things have evened out a little. I still end up paying a higher percentage of my income for things than he pays of us, but he doesn't have a problem with that, even if I do. And I do believe he may be paying 50% or close to our household expenses. I still have more people in the house than he does (two kids not his), and I don't expect him to support my kids. Once they have moved on, if they ever move on, my money situation will improve a lot. He pays the mortgage and the internet/cable bill and covers our health insurance premiums through his work. I pay everything else. He also pays for the RV, but I really do consider that "his" and not "mine," even if I do use it. I could have lived without it, and said so. But he wanted it, so it's money . . . He buys some of his own food and toiletries and now does his own laundry.
He is a hoarder and a compulsive shopper, and I worry about how much, if any, money he is saving. Even on my meager (in comparison) income, I manage to save a few hundred dollars every few months, but I don't think he's saving anything. Once he's not working, he is going to have to go through a radical change in lifestyle because I can't afford the way he lives now.
He does pay for other things -- like the trips we take and most of the time we eat out (date night once a week). I try to contribute what I can while we are tourists, but I really can't afford to travel to Israel, London, Costa Rica, or Mexico, so I give him a lot of credit for paying for me to go. Granted, most of the big expenses (flight/rental car/hotel) he pays with points, but still. I wouldn't be going at all if not for him.
He is also very handy -- even if not tidy about it. So he has positive attributes too.
I'm just kind of on a down note right now because of his comment that my senior, who just turned 18, is an "adult," and maybe "he doesn't want to spend Christmas with us. After all, I don't get to spend Christmas with my adult kids." That really sizzled me.
So yeah. Everything's "separate," but the house is in both of our names. And maybe, as a couple of you mentioned, that seems like an escape plan, and maybe it kind of is. I don't want to be burned again. I am really leery of being burned again. I want everything separate. He has suggested that perhaps I should stop working because he could "support me," but when I stopped working for a few months after my first son was born, my then husband called me a "freeloader." Literally. "Freeloader." To my face. In anger.
So my current husband chides me for my financial independence, but I learned my lesson. No one will ever call me a freeloader again. I trust no one. Especially husbands. And I know very well if I did quit, I would never hear the end of it from him, especially since two of my boys are still living with us.
Sorry for the rant. Lol But it did feel good to get this off my chest.
Felicia
Willamette Valley, Oregon6 -
Money.... Its kind of part of weight loss, or gain. I know when we lived down in Oregon, and I was living the life of a caregiver/wife, we used food banks to supplement not having enough for proper grocery runs. It was hard to eat healthy. Lots of rice/beans/pasta. But I survived and didn't blow up like a balloon!
Since my husbands early retirement in 2010 at age 50, due to the bum liver, its been a challenge! He gets retirement from the Navy, and from putting time at the water district in California. That can pay for rent, and two bills. Son pays his share, and two bills, so its all even steven. After paying car, insurance, and mentally take out monies to pay our quarterly health insurance, we have enough to go grocery store shopping each week. Its worked out well!
Husband received the tax info, and we made 20K last year. So we are officially poor, but we are happy and content as pie. Every so often I ask son to take me out for breakfast. And he also takes us out to dinner a couple of times a month. Payback for me cooking meals. It all works out.
Ok that's all I got on money matters. Oh we have one check book, no savings, no money hidden, no rich relatives... Lol! I have looked!💗
Everyone know, I care about ya all!
💗Rebecca
Whidbey island
Washington7 -
My close-up of my Advent Calendar! Kept it simple this year. My middle no empathy sister seems to be getting blasted by the horn there! Haahaa!
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Rebecca - it's good to see you!
On the financial thing, yes it can be horribly stressful, but at least it's not politics or religion, which we do stay away from as a group.
You are all giving me much food for thought, and blessing my lucky stars that I married a) men who work, and b) men who are happy to let me deal with the finances... but then, the relationships wouldn't have worked for long had it not been that way. I really meant it when I said there was no judgment on my part of whether folks do or don't. I've just always wondered why some people do keep their finances split - and it had been on my mind because my son made it clear that he would be keeping his finances separate from any woman he ever marries again. His divorce should be final two days after Christmas, and after hearing his reasons, I understood his original statement more. Funny the stuff you find out after a relationship is over.
And it all boils down to past experience on either ours or our partners' part of situations where merged finances did not work well, for whatever reason. Felicia, my sympathies.
Busy, but thoughtful day.
Back to it!
Lisa in AR2 -
Happy National Oatmeal Muffin Day!
"Known for its health benefits, millions of people start each day with an Oatmeal Muffin. ... The American muffin is similar in size and shape to a cupcake. Recipes for Oatmeal Muffins began to appear in American cookbooks in the mid-1800s." Today is a good day to try out a new oatmeal muffin recipe!
Becca - So sorry your cookies didn't turn out well. Oh, well, at least you gave it a shot!
Lisa - How exciting! Wishing you luck with your higher education journey.
Janet - Congratulations on the good news about your eyes. That's huge!
Karen - Ooh, I know about that tender ego. I've been the primary breadwinner since Philip transitioned out of tech and into massage therapy several years ago. Our income all goes into one basket for bill paying and we each get an allowance out of that. (We both have access to each other's personal accounts for estate reasons.) Sometimes I resent the fact that he gets tip money that doesn't get accounted for. He's always got cash, but I think a lot of the tips go into our cash entertainment fund so I leave it be. Whenever I need cash I just ask him for it. It's not easy on his pride to make so much less than he used to, so I try hard not to poke him about it. He is SO much happier now so it's worth it. The good thing is that he's taking another day a week off his job in Austin starting in January in order to add a day to his schedule here. The more he builds the local practice, the greater his take-home pay - the Austin employer only pays him a fraction of what they charge his clients.
Pip - I always figured the boob smash must be much worse with smaller breasts. All that pinching and pulling, yeowtch!
Jessica - Welcome! Yep, just jump right in! I find that I'm more accountable when I post to the group daily instead of logging/tracking alone.
Feeling better today, finally... I'm not well yet, but I think I will live now. And after today I've only got one more work day before I'm off work until the 31st. I probably won't have much to do that day either, so I should have time for hoppin' john and bayberry candles. It's been a long, long time since I had a week off and I don't know what I'm going to do with all that time!
-Yvonne in TX0 -
Welcome, Jessica, We talk about everything except taking sides on controversial issues. We welcome you.
I think "taking sides" is the problem in many areas of discussion. We can all say how we handle certain aspects of our lives. It only becomes controversial when the statement advocates for one side and puts down the other. It has been helpful to hear how different couples handle their shared or not shared financial conditions. Most important, no one has said "To have a good marriage you must do ____________" We do the same things as we discuss food plans. Among us we have all sorts of plans (Keto, low carb, fancy cooking, repetitive eating, fasting, meal replacements, protein shakes, and everything else that's ever been tried) but no one criticizes anyone else for their choices or holds their own choice up as the best.
Here is a picture of some of the lights around the parking lot at the ferry we took yesterday
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JerseyPort wrote: »My name is Jessica and I am new to this discussion board (is that what it is called?), so please forgive me for just jumping into this with an introduction and feel free to tutor me on how to use this feature of MFP. If there is a more appropriate place to intro myself (I am well over 50 and could use, and maybe offer, support on fitness goals), let me know. In the meantime, I apologize for interrupting the thread of discussion about finances to intro myself here. I just really want to get started and don’t know how else to do it.
I am not new to MFP as a tracking tool, but, after two recent messages from two different doctors that losing 25-30 lbs would greatly enhance my well being, and after some frustrating attempts at going it alone, I am doubling down on my efforts and am feeling determined to do whatever it takes. So that’s it. Hello and thank you to anyone who reads this!
Welcome Jessica..I myself am also new and don't post very often. I am in my late 60's and this time I have weight coming off so I am so happy. Nothing is worse when no matter how hard you try and that scale just does nothing. I am finding that keeping track of everything you put into your mouth is working for me and it's a lot easier on this site with the food data base in both US and Canadian brands. I am eating low carb....trying to stay under 90 carbs per day at 1400 calories per day. I am finding I am able to be under each day and I am not hungry. I started Oct. 28th and so far 11 pounds. I weigh myself once a week and so far it's been one pound a week. Hopefully this will continue as I have a long way to go...wish I could switch amounts having to lose with you. LOL I message more on another discussion board with women over 60 and have learned some tips from those ladies to curb or have good snacks for evenings that have helped. Anyways just welcome and the tracking of food is working at least for me. Mary from Ontario, Canada0 -
Barbie - thank you for sharing that photo and your explanation about "taking sides". That is what has made this the least controversial and most respectful group I have ever encountered.
Our household finances are like yours and Jake's. I was the one with the stable jobs (grateful they had retirement plans) and a bit of inheritance. I'm the saver. DH is the spender. We put his small pension in an account which is his "walking around" money - he doesn't have to account to me or explain where/what he spends it on. That's important to him.
The rest of our $$ goes into the communal pot and I control the finances as best I can with our annual budget in mind. We planned years ago that when we retired, we wouldn't have any debt. So we didn't take trips, kept driving our old cars until the wheels fell off, etc. And despite some hiccups, we recovered. Very grateful. Now putting extra $$ when we have it in the "nursing home" and "home repair" accounts, lol. Hope we never have to use the first one! We don't have long-term health care insurance, our priority was paying off debt.
DH has always wanted to know his DNA/ethnicity make-up, so I bought 2 of the kits from AncestryDNA.com with the idea of giving him one for Christmas and I can verify that I'm German/French through and through. We don't want our information plastered for the world to see, don't want to be part of their family tree service, etc. At least not now. I was just looking at the website and think it will be OK to send my spit and see what they say. I've read warnings recently that having your DNA tested like this can expose your private information (I don't think so if I go in under my maiden name, for example and don't fill in anything else?)
Does anyone have experience with this?
Lanette
SW WA State with a windstorm coming our way tomorrow
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Happy National Oatmeal Muffin Day!
"Known for its health benefits, millions of people start each day with an Oatmeal Muffin. ... The American muffin is similar in size and shape to a cupcake. Recipes for Oatmeal Muffins began to appear in American cookbooks in the mid-1800s." Today is a good day to try out a new oatmeal muffin recipe!
Becca - So sorry your cookies didn't turn out well. Oh, well, at least you gave it a shot!
Lisa - How exciting! Wishing you luck with your higher education journey.
Janet - Congratulations on the good news about your eyes. That's huge!
Karen - Ooh, I know about that tender ego. I've been the primary breadwinner since Philip transitioned out of tech and into massage therapy several years ago. Our income all goes into one basket for bill paying and we each get an allowance out of that. (We both have access to each other's personal accounts for estate reasons.) Sometimes I resent the fact that he gets tip money that doesn't get accounted for. He's always got cash, but I think a lot of the tips go into our cash entertainment fund so I leave it be. Whenever I need cash I just ask him for it. It's not easy on his pride to make so much less than he used to, so I try hard not to poke him about it. He is SO much happier now so it's worth it. The good thing is that he's taking another day a week off his job in Austin starting in January in order to add a day to his schedule here. The more he builds the local practice, the greater his take-home pay - the Austin employer only pays him a fraction of what they charge his clients.
Pip - I always figured the boob smash must be much worse with smaller breasts. All that pinching and pulling, yeowtch!
Jessica - Welcome! Yep, just jump right in! I find that I'm more accountable when I post to the group daily instead of logging/tracking alone.
Feeling better today, finally... I'm not well yet, but I think I will live now. And after today I've only got one more work day before I'm off work until the 31st. I probably won't have much to do that day either, so I should have time for hoppin' john and bayberry candles. It's been a long, long time since I had a week off and I don't know what I'm going to do with all that time!
-Yvonne in TX
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Happy National Oatmeal Muffin Day!
"Known for its health benefits, millions of people start each day with an Oatmeal Muffin. ... The American muffin is similar in size and shape to a cupcake. Recipes for Oatmeal Muffins began to appear in American cookbooks in the mid-1800s." Today is a good day to try out a new oatmeal muffin recipe!
Becca - So sorry your cookies didn't turn out well. Oh, well, at least you gave it a shot!
Lisa - How exciting! Wishing you luck with your higher education journey.
Janet - Congratulations on the good news about your eyes. That's huge!
Karen - Ooh, I know about that tender ego. I've been the primary breadwinner since Philip transitioned out of tech and into massage therapy several years ago. Our income all goes into one basket for bill paying and we each get an allowance out of that. (We both have access to each other's personal accounts for estate reasons.) Sometimes I resent the fact that he gets tip money that doesn't get accounted for. He's always got cash, but I think a lot of the tips go into our cash entertainment fund so I leave it be. Whenever I need cash I just ask him for it. It's not easy on his pride to make so much less than he used to, so I try hard not to poke him about it. He is SO much happier now so it's worth it. The good thing is that he's taking another day a week off his job in Austin starting in January in order to add a day to his schedule here. The more he builds the local practice, the greater his take-home pay - the Austin employer only pays him a fraction of what they charge his clients.
Pip - I always figured the boob smash must be much worse with smaller breasts. All that pinching and pulling, yeowtch!
Jessica - Welcome! Yep, just jump right in! I find that I'm more accountable when I post to the group daily instead of logging/tracking alone.
Feeling better today, finally... I'm not well yet, but I think I will live now. And after today I've only got one more work day before I'm off work until the 31st. I probably won't have much to do that day either, so I should have time for hoppin' john and bayberry candles. It's been a long, long time since I had a week off and I don't know what I'm going to do with all that time!
-Yvonne in TX
Having had bigger boobs and now smaller ones, no diff
I agree Pip. I couldn’t tell any difference from 40DDD to 34C. Well, more skin to have to move out of the way for the poor technician, but that’s about it.
Okie2 -
I'm home ...long day at work...met the new Dr seems very nice.. Hope he truly is...3
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I have to share about one more thing about finances because I think she handled it brilliantly! My Mom was a stay-at-home-mom ... very normal for the time period and my Dad was the breadwinner. Dad (89) was (and still is) a phenomenal budget-er using the envelope method. He had an envelope for groceries, mortgage, vacations, medical, etc. And he had an envelope budget for my Mom that he called "allowance." My Mom hated the thought of getting an allowance as an adult and had no problems telling my Dad so. He insisted she take the money and do whatever she wanted with it. He told her to burn it if it made her happy. It was not intended to buy clothes or anything she needed -- he took care of that with other envelopes. So she saved it and then she invested it. She currently has a substantial amount of money invested in IRAs and other investments. No longer contributing to those funds at the age of 86, and still getting her "allowance," she stuffs the pockets of unused clothing items (which is going to cause me a major headache someday). My Dad never meant any harm and my Mom did handle all the bills and household finances once the envelopes were taken care of! LOL!
Welcome Jessica!
Beth6 -
Beth - your parents had the perfect fiscal partnership! What a nice thing to be exposed to as a child in my opinion.
Rebecca - some of the happiest days in our marriage were when we were just living from paycheck to paycheck. As we both got jobs and started saving money, we had some bitter fights on how or if should be spent. Henceforth, DH now knows I make ends meet and the rest is already committed. Location of/or existence of "Pin" money remains undisclosed.
Lanette
SW WA State watching the barometric pressure drop!0
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