Coronavirus prep
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pitbullpuppy wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Chef Barbell- May have to use other avenues or multiple ones to shop online. We’re even grabbing a high calorie tiny can of corn cause they ran out of corn was all that was left.
EBay -has foods to other items
Walmart.com - has foods to other items
Misfits Market- Vegetables
Butcher box- Meats
Amazon- foods to other items
Many others especially ones MFP is advertising if need be.
Target,SamsClub,Costco,etc even vegan online stores
Not forever but for now do what you gotta do if it’s something you really need. If it’s a want put it on the back burner.
We’re trying to buy more for baby than our normal diets so our stocks looking like a day care.
Just saw Delaware has it’s 1st Case https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/coronavirus/delaware-coronavirus-positive-test/2322213/
Disagree person back waves 🌊 to them
This is a great list and Walmart.com ships a lot of products that might not be available in store. Also Walmart Grocery Pick up (and delivery is available in some places) is a nice alternative.
Sadly not available in Queens, NY... I just checked lol2 -
juliemouse83 wrote: »Been lurking this thread.
I'm in NC, where we have 7 reported cases, mostly in Wake County, where my 81 year old mom lives. She volunteers several times a week at an outreach organization, and emailed them yesterday to let them know that she was staying away until the threat is reduced. I am very relieved she did that. She just had a heart valve replaced in mid-January and is still recovering from that. I thought I was going to have a fight on my hands, as I'd called her to suggest she not go.
I live in a county a bit further east and work in a hospital that is part of a larger organization. The emails have been coming hard and fast for the past couple of days. Our state's first presumptive positive came a week ago last Tuesday. We've been told to phone in to meetings with over 50 people, not hoard PPE, etc. Our county does not have any presumptive positive cases to date.
Some genius decided to start a rumor that we had a COVID patient in our emergency department this afternoon. Let me reiterate that we do not at this time. That *kitten* spread like wildfire and I ended up sending a text to my boss to either confirm it or squash it. He squashed it. In the meantime, one of the ladies in our group was in a panic. She is a legit germaphobe. (How she ended up working in a hospital is beyond me, lol.
) But she was honestly freaked out.
To date, I hadn't been terribly concerned about this, tbh. I am aware of the potential of it spreading into our neck of the woods, but I honestly don't think I truly believed that it would, which was apparent by my own inner reaction, which was a really uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach. If I was feeling that? I knew she had to be feeling so much worse. *sits and wonders what she's going to do when it isn't just a rumor*
Our prep at home is that we have enough food and drinkables to get us through two weeks of potentially not being to go out. @GaleHawkins I have pets and I didn't even THINK about food for them, so off to the local Walmart to get a couple really big bags of dog food just to put in the back room "just in case." At work we are behaving as if the virus is already in the building. In healthcare, you have to be aware of hand hygiene, but this has really made all of us hyper-aware of ALL the surfaces we touch (door lock button combos, elevator buttons, doorknobs, stairwells, etc.) and also aware of how often we touch our faces.
I hope everyone stays healthy, does proper hand hygiene, eats well, and doesn't stress over this too much. Scary? Yes, but stress just doesn't do anything for anyone.
I try to avoid using the inside of my hands, to touch things that aren't my personal property. For instance I use my knuckles, to press elevator buttons.3 -
I am on a cast and in pain; I broke my right wrist on 2/11. This my contribution to this thread since it is hard to type with my left hand only. By the way, my husband and I are in the risk age group since we are super seniors. We are mostly in social isolation. Good that we have a large house to keep us sane
Informative links:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/11/epidemiologist-advice-on-how-to-fight-coronavirus-covid-19-column/5012545002/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/health/how-to-clean-work-desk-coronavirus-wellness-trnd/index.html
From the CDC and EPA:
Cleaning removes germs and dirt from surfaces. You can use soap and water to clean surfaces. This doesn't always kill germs, but removing them lowers their numbers. It's suggested to clean surfaces before you disinfect them.
Disinfecting kills germs on surfaces. Disinfectant chemicals are stronger than soap but do not necessarily clean visibly dirty surfaces or remove germs. Killing germs lowers the risk of infection. To properly disinfect, products need to remain on a surface for a specific amount of time -- usually 3 to 5 minutes.
Sanitizing also kills germs, but disinfecting kill more of them. Some products are capable of doing both, but disinfecting requires a bit more work. Still, sanitizers effectively lower the risk of infection.
[i]Even if initial safety tests go well, “you’re talking about a year to a year and a half” before any vaccine could be ready for widespread use, stressed Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.[/i]
https://komonews.com/news/local/behind-the-scenes-scientists-prep-for-covid-19-vaccine-test-03-08-2020
COVID-19 Vaccine Shipped, and Drug Trials Start
Moderna Therapeutics, a biotech company based in Cambridge, Mass., has shipped the first batches of its COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine was created just 42 days after the genetic sequence of the COVID_19 virus, called SARS-CoV-2, was released by Chinese researchers in mid-January. The first vials were sent to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, MD, which will ready the vaccine for human testing as early as April.
https://time.com/5790545/first-covid-19-vaccine/?iid=obnetwork
Note: this seems to be a treatment vaccine to boost the immune system in already infected individuals, and not a vaccine to prevent infection, which will take longer to develop, test in clinical trails and approved.
Stay healthy and take this health problem seriously. Being nonchalant will not solve the problem.10 -
Think Amazon like here doesn’t have a store everywhere but a weeks worth isn’t bad if it’s all you got.
Walmart.com available in Texas in my location no problem but Chef Barbell says not in Queens NY. Guess you got to check your area for what you can find to what types of delivery is available .
I noticed one site MFP recommendation for wouldn’t send to Texas. Lots here are using it tho from other states. Another MFP sends to Texas but not California.
If you find what works for your state post might help another one of us out in the same state.
Been watching Dr John he updates info he finds is a Doctor in Australia if I remember right. So might not align with your country 100% unless you live there.Gives insite on what the Docs are seeing to what that particular country is trying or doing.
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I'd think that events that've paying customers'd have insurance for potential cancellations, to then refund their customer's with.3
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DecadeDuchess wrote: »juliemouse83 wrote: »Been lurking this thread.
I'm in NC, where we have 7 reported cases, mostly in Wake County, where my 81 year old mom lives. She volunteers several times a week at an outreach organization, and emailed them yesterday to let them know that she was staying away until the threat is reduced. I am very relieved she did that. She just had a heart valve replaced in mid-January and is still recovering from that. I thought I was going to have a fight on my hands, as I'd called her to suggest she not go.
I live in a county a bit further east and work in a hospital that is part of a larger organization. The emails have been coming hard and fast for the past couple of days. Our state's first presumptive positive came a week ago last Tuesday. We've been told to phone in to meetings with over 50 people, not hoard PPE, etc. Our county does not have any presumptive positive cases to date.
Some genius decided to start a rumor that we had a COVID patient in our emergency department this afternoon. Let me reiterate that we do not at this time. That *kitten* spread like wildfire and I ended up sending a text to my boss to either confirm it or squash it. He squashed it. In the meantime, one of the ladies in our group was in a panic. She is a legit germaphobe. (How she ended up working in a hospital is beyond me, lol. ) But she was honestly freaked out.
To date, I hadn't been terribly concerned about this, tbh. I am aware of the potential of it spreading into our neck of the woods, but I honestly don't think I truly believed that it would, which was apparent by my own inner reaction, which was a really uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach. If I was feeling that? I knew she had to be feeling so much worse. *sits and wonders what she's going to do when it isn't just a rumor*
Our prep at home is that we have enough food and drinkables to get us through two weeks of potentially not being to go out. @GaleHawkins I have pets and I didn't even THINK about food for them, so off to the local Walmart to get a couple really big bags of dog food just to put in the back room "just in case." At work we are behaving as if the virus is already in the building. In healthcare, you have to be aware of hand hygiene, but this has really made all of us hyper-aware of ALL the surfaces we touch (door lock button combos, elevator buttons, doorknobs, stairwells, etc.) and also aware of how often we touch our faces.
I hope everyone stays healthy, does proper hand hygiene, eats well, and doesn't stress over this too much. Scary? Yes, but stress just doesn't do anything for anyone.
I try to avoid using the inside of my hands, to touch things that aren't my personal property. For instance I use my knuckles, to press elevator buttons.
Yes! This! 👍🏼 Yesterday, I used knuckles for the buttons. Today I used the back of my pen, and hit the hand sanitizer dispensers and cleaned the pen, as well. I’m also using the sides of my arm to manipulate push-paddles for doors. I use the heel of my hand for lever knobs and my hips for doors with bar releases. Rather than the hand rails going down the stairs, I use the side of my arm against the walls, as nobody touches them.5 -
Duke, UNC, NC State are moving to online classes until at least 4/20. NCAA not allowing fans. We personally know two families locally who are under quarantine (one is self-imposed). It's starting to hit close to home here.5
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snowflake954 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.
Part of the problem in the US is that there is no clear messaging from the top. The president keeps contradicting the CDC and other experts and even went as far as to call it a hoax...but then on the other hand signed an 8.5M spending bill for coronavirus. The messaging from the top is all over the place and inconsistent.
Right now there seem to be two primary camps...people who are panicking and hoarding and people who don't even believe this could potentially be a big issue. On my facebook page I was just reading that Zac Brown has cancelled the remainder of his spring tour in an effort to provide better social distancing with this pandemic...the amount of people cussing him out on the comments section was ridiculous.
The people in the middle of the two extremes who think it's wise to exercise some additional precautions, but not freak out but also not just blow it off seem few and far between.
Here in Italy we had the same exact political reaction. To try and keep people calm. Then they will ramp up a step at a time. Watch carefully what they do--NOT what they say. That's how to sift the wheat from the chaff (I'm from a farm originally).
Thankfully in New Zealand our advice from the top is very clear. There's a daily press conference given by the Director General of the Ministry of Health. There is a very clear message to stay at home from work or school if you have so much as a sniffle, and to avoid large gatherings if you're unwell (the one year anniversary of the Christchurch mosque attacks is this weekend, and there are commemoration events planned). The government is quite ready to shut things down (schools, etc) to curtail spread, rather than waiting for that to be come a necessity. Both public and private sector are putting plans in place for people to be able to work from home, and the government is looking at relief package options for those in industries where they can't work from home.
National pandemic kit has 9 million each of respiratory and surgical masks in stock. Not sure if that includes what individual District Health Boards have.10 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).
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Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.
Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.
I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.
I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.
Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.
Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.
(^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)
No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?
Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.
And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.
My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.
The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.
Gatherings larger than 250.
Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.
Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.
Harvard, Yale, Amherst, University of Maryland have all already made this call (send students home, continue with online classes for at least a week or the rest of the semester, depending on the school). There are probably others I've missed.1 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.
My husband pointed me to this video explaining the situation in Italy. Very sobering and frightening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mrPHO-nkVE 4 -
Just got emailed this message from a popular kids restaurant2 -
The Atlantic this afternoon had an article about recommendations from an Italian medical organization for deciding which patients will be allotted medical treatment as there "are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care." The short version is that intensive care and ventilation machines should be prioritized for the young and healthy who have the best chance of recovery and the most years of life ahead of them. This recommendation applies to anyone who needs intensive care for any medical condition, not just for those with COVID-19, as those patients are competing for the same resources.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20200311&silverid-ref=MzEwMTkxNDc1NDIwS0
For countries where the virus has not yet reached the point of overwhelming medical resources, it would seem to be a moral imperative for everyone to do whatever they can to slow the spread of the virus through good hygiene, social distancing, and obviously self-quarantining if you're not feeling well or have been exposed to someone with the virus. If the curve can be flattened, so that the cases can be spread out over a longer period of time, and fewer people have the virus at any one time, there will be less necessity to decide which patients get good medical care, and which ones are allowed to die.
Obviously we can't all stop everything and hole up in our homes indefinitely, but every little bit helps. I hate thinking about all the small businesses losing customers, and I actually went out to eat last weekend, but the rate at which it is spreading in the U.S. seems to be comparable to what happened in Italy, so I think I will be sticking to home this weekend. We had a mild winter, so I never used the stuff I stocked up on in case of a big snow storm.11 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Think Amazon like here doesn’t have a store everywhere but a weeks worth isn’t bad if it’s all you got.
Walmart.com available in Texas in my location no problem but Chef Barbell says not in Queens NY. Guess you got to check your area for what you can find to what types of delivery is available .
I noticed one site MFP recommendation for wouldn’t send to Texas. Lots here are using it tho from other states. Another MFP sends to Texas but not California.
If you find what works for your state post might help another one of us out in the same state.
Been watching Dr John he updates info he finds is a Doctor in Australia if I remember right. So might not align with your country 100% unless you live there.Gives insite on what the Docs are seeing to what that particular country is trying or doing.https://youtu.be/FZV9z0RVhy4
That's Dr. John Campbell, a professor who instructs nurses, and he's in the UK. He is an excellent source of information.4 -
Travel ban to US from Europe for 30 days.. 😬3
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OKC Thunder game cancelled because Utah Jazz player has Corona. But the team was here, suited up, ready to play. Game was cancelled just before it started.
Is NBA suspending season? Our news is saying yes.
Our police escorted the Jazz in, so they are worried about spreading it to all our police force.
It’s official. OKC has a confirmed corona virus patient. The Jazz player, Rudy Gobert is under the care of an OKC Doctor.
Our state high school tournament games are supposed to start tomorrow afternoon. We don’t know how it will affect them.
Pearl Jam has cancelled their April date here.
Cher just now cancelled her concert here tomorrow night. Would have been in the same Arena as the basketball game, and she didn’t want people coming in to a germy Arena.
The Oklahoma county health department has gone to both teams to test other players.
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corinasue1143 wrote: »OKC Thunder game cancelled because Utah Jazz player has Corona. But the team was here, suited up, ready to play. Game was cancelled just before it started.
Is NBA suspending season? Our news is saying yes.
Our police escorted the Jazz in, so they are worried about spreading it to all our police force.
Yep, both teams are now quarantined and the NBA suspended the season until further notice. Yikes3 -
I just saw on the news Tom Hanks and his wife have both tested positive for Covid-19.5
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).
*snipped*
Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.
Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.
I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.
I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.
Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.
Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.
(^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)
No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?
Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.
And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.
My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.
The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.
Gatherings larger than 250.
Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.
Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.
Harvard, Yale, Amherst, University of Maryland have all already made this call (send students home, continue with online classes for at least a week or the rest of the semester, depending on the school). There are probably others I've missed.
UVA announced this as well today. Asking students to go home.0 -
Tom hanks y wife positive for the virus 🦠 link https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/media/tom-hanks-coronavirus.html
NBA Utah Positive for the virus 🦠 player https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/sports/basketball/nba-season-postponed-coronavirus.html3 -
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OK, so I keep hearing about this apocalyptic toilet paper shortage going on. Every time I go to the store lately I keep expecting to see empty shelves and rampaging mobs. I haven't seen any of that where I live in Southern California. I've been to both regular grocery stores and club stores. Plenty of supplies on the shelves. No crazed crowds in sight. It's been pretty chill as far as I can see...so far...
P.S. I actually need to get toilet paper soon. Not for hoarding purposes - just for wiping. But I feel a little self-conscious buying it right now. Don't want to spark a panic or get accused of stockpiling.
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Job layoffs for some already in fields of travel to airlines https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/11/layoffs-coronavirus/
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Jenill1 - shortage of certain foods to supplies is still only effecting certain areas in the USA. Your lucky if your shelf’s are all full. Some of us are struggling to find certain items..some can’t find certain items at all now.
It’s not every state or area of a state with issues. It’s some.2 -
Nba suspends games until further notice .
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28887560/nba-suspends-season-further-notice-player-tests-positive-coronavirus4 -
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singingflutelady wrote: »
Yeah kinda strange.. wondering why.. oh yeah.. brexit . 😂5 -
https://apple.news/AdD89ZlpsSJyn88IAdmxeag
Restaurant article IPhone news so some can’t read it unless on an Apple product0 -
moonangel12 wrote: »
Agree. I admire them for being honest and sharing their status so matter of factly.
They are hospitalised very close to where I live and many people I know went to Rita's speaking event.4 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).
*snipped*
Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.
Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.
I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.
I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.
Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.
Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.
(^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)
No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?
Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.
And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.
My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.
The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.
Gatherings larger than 250.
Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.
Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.
Harvard, Yale, Amherst, University of Maryland have all already made this call (send students home, continue with online classes for at least a week or the rest of the semester, depending on the school). There are probably others I've missed.
UVA announced this as well today. Asking students to go home.
The larger universities here in Michigan (Michigan State, U of M, Tech, Wayne State, Oakland, others) are moving to online only classes. I'm most familiar with Michigan State (couple miles from me); they're asking students to go to their permanent homes if feasible, but keeping facilities open for those who can't (large international student contingent there).
Still at a couple of confirmed cases in the state, last report I read.
ETA: At Costco today, TP out, facial tissue out, bottled water very depleted. At Kroger, TP out, facial tissue very nearly out (bought some myself, but normal restock not stockpiling), bottled water out.2
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