Coronavirus prep
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Chef Barbell- May have to use other avenues or multiple ones to shop online. We’re even grabbing a high calorie tiny can of corn cause they ran out of corn was all that was left.
EBay -has foods to other items
Walmart.com - has foods to other items
Misfits Market- Vegetables
Butcher box- Meats
Amazon- foods to other items
Many others especially ones MFP is advertising if need be.
Target,SamsClub,Costco,etc even vegan online stores
Not forever but for now do what you gotta do if it’s something you really need. If it’s a want put it on the back burner.
We’re trying to buy more for baby than our normal diets so our stocks looking like a day care.
Just saw Delaware has it’s 1st Case https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/coronavirus/delaware-coronavirus-positive-test/2322213/
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Duck_Puddle wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm supposed to take my two boys on a Colorado road trip for Spring break which culminates with a Supercross motorcycle race at Mile High Stadium in Denver. I'm kind of at a loss right now...the boys have been looking forward to this since November. I kind of hope they cancel the event and take that decision out of my hands...and so that I can at least get my money back as it was a bit over $200...I'd also have to eat around $400 worth of lodging because I got a smoking deal at a Marriott but had to pay upfront with no refunds for cancellation. All of my other lodging can be cancelled up to 24 hours before.
I still have a few weeks until I have to decide, so I guess I'll just watch how things go.
The race I was supposed to run this weekend was cancelled (along with about 284995050605 others according to my emails). I wouldn’t count on a refund though (especially if the event is cancelled close to the date) - unless there’s an existing refund policy for the race.
But many travel providers (airlines, hotels, etc) are relaxing change and cancellation policies - many currently have waivers for travel dates through the end of April. So you may do better there than you think.
If you end up not going.
I was thinking about doing one of our largest local races, the Shamrock Shuffle, on March 22, but decided it would likely get canceled. Hoping this is all over before my favorite neighborhood race, the Ravenswood Run, on 4/26, but am not signing up in advance this year.
My next event is 5/15. I’m not signing up until the last possible moment.
My cancelled race offered a virtual or 65% for another race. I don’t blame them. Others in my email are offering deferrals. I haven’t seen any refund offers yet (but these are pretty imminent races so everything has already been paid for/done and full refunds could cripple a smaller race company).
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If this keeps up, I can't imagine what Milwaukee will do if the festivals get cancelled. Between Summerfest (largest music festival in the world) and all of the ethnic festivals (pretty much one every weekend except during Summerfest) the city rakes in a lot of money.3
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Chef Barbell- May have to use other avenues or multiple ones to shop online. We’re even grabbing a high calorie tiny can of corn cause they ran out of corn was all that was left.
EBay -has foods to other items
Walmart.com - has foods to other items
Misfits Market- Vegetables
Butcher box- Meats
Amazon- foods to other items
Many others especially ones MFP is advertising if need be.
Target,SamsClub,Costco,etc even vegan online stores
Not forever but for now do what you gotta do if it’s something you really need. If it’s a want put it on the back burner.
We’re trying to buy more for baby than our normal diets so our stocks looking like a day care.
Just saw Delaware has it’s 1st Case https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/coronavirus/delaware-coronavirus-positive-test/2322213/
Disagree person back waves 🌊 to them
Agreed... I'm shopping for a family of 7, so it's just a small PITA to have meals planned and have to store hop. Thankfully my local supermarket is well stocked (for now) and I can go there if need be, just the prices are higher.3 -
On the local news broadcast at 11 a.m., they reported a new device available. It’s worn on the wrist and tracks how many times you touch your face. $50.4
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First confirmed case in my city today, and unfortunately, it was an oncologist who has had contact with over a dozen cancer patients.6
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missysippy930 wrote: »On the local news broadcast at 11 a.m., they reported a new device available. It’s worn on the wrist and tracks how many times you touch your face. $50.
Yikes! It's probably already on some click bait "Stay safe with these must-have products!!" list.2 -
missysippy930 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.
Our 3rd case was reported today in Minnesota since Friday. The first two are older. The 3rd person is in 30’s and in critical condition. Everyone needs to be aware and take precautions for their, and their families hygiene practices. It’s not a hoax. Concern, definitely. Panic, no.
Almost all my family is in Minnesota. My mother is 90, in good health for her age, but wouldn't make it through the virus. She is out on a farm in the boonies. If she stays home instead of running around.2 -
Chef Barbell- It’s definitely a PITA we paid double for the tiny cans of corn than our normal salt free giant cans. Once a vaccines out there to procedures for tackling it to curing it that’s more sound y known by all things will get easier. How long will that be don’t know so even my Mother-in-law using a CVS or Walgreens app sending it to her house 🏡. Rest we bring her for now. If you like send a friend request In updating my friends when they ask where to get stuff ..I’m the stay at home mom since this last pregnancy so more time than them. (Csection issues is why)2
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Kshama2001- oh my lord theirs nothing on those shelves at all! We thought it was bad here! Yikes 😳 . Try online for some or other stores.The diaper isles here keep looking like that so they had 1 1/2 isles instead of half of 1 now at Sam’s Club .
I'm all set, thanks - as soon as I heard about panic buying in a nearby state I stocked up1 -
Kshama2001-good to here that . That was smart to do .0
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I am thinking about this daily. I have about 8 rolls of toilet paper--guess I need that. The map shown a few times above does not match the one my senator sent out today. IT REALLY DOES NOT. Senator Warner stated there are 9 confirmed cases in Virginia and I know 2 in Virginia Beach were cruise people. I understood his reference to say that the source of other cases was not yet determined. I know SEALs (Navy) are canceling a golf tournament and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have changed their next Conference to ' restricted entry' as well as asked that large scale meetings be reconsidered. I guess I am old, 63, and have complications (diabetes, kidney, thyroid) but sort of think I stay home a lot and home school child. Who knows?2
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thankfully, I don't need diapers! But it does make me wonder about the cat food. I've got plenty in my freezer, pantry, and canned shelf, and my parents are right across the road so we'd share back and forth if it came down to it.
Still no confirmed cases in West Virginia, but I know its coming. I can say that my perception of this has changed in the last few days - still not panicking but my wariness levels have definitely increased. I don't personally have any health problems or co-morbidities, but my parents and sister are diabetics with other problems, my dad had lung issues, and my best friend, who lives in the metro area, has bad asthma and weak lungs; it was be deadly for her if she catches it, especially as she's been having a lot of medical problems in the last couple of years.
I have a local craft show this weekend to attend, and one in Virginia in Covington the 28th. I've already paid for the one in Convington. If they have it, I will still go, but make sure I take plenty of supplies with me. However, with it already being in Virginia, there's a good chance this might get canceled or delayed, especially since they pull in people from central Virginia.2 -
Here's what Senator Mark Warner sent to his constituents: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html
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Duck_Puddle wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm supposed to take my two boys on a Colorado road trip for Spring break which culminates with a Supercross motorcycle race at Mile High Stadium in Denver. I'm kind of at a loss right now...the boys have been looking forward to this since November. I kind of hope they cancel the event and take that decision out of my hands...and so that I can at least get my money back as it was a bit over $200...I'd also have to eat around $400 worth of lodging because I got a smoking deal at a Marriott but had to pay upfront with no refunds for cancellation. All of my other lodging can be cancelled up to 24 hours before.
I still have a few weeks until I have to decide, so I guess I'll just watch how things go.
The race I was supposed to run this weekend was cancelled (along with about 284995050605 others according to my emails). I wouldn’t count on a refund though (especially if the event is cancelled close to the date) - unless there’s an existing refund policy for the race.
But many travel providers (airlines, hotels, etc) are relaxing change and cancellation policies - many currently have waivers for travel dates through the end of April. So you may do better there than you think.
If you end up not going.
I would think since it's a sporting event they would give fans a refund if the event can't take place...but I don't know. That'll be around 50,000 pissed off fans.
I could see a local race you sign up for not giving refunds...but this is a very large sporting event like going to a pro football game, etc. The very best riders in the world.1 -
If this keeps up, I can't imagine what Milwaukee will do if the festivals get cancelled. Between Summerfest (largest music festival in the world) and all of the ethnic festivals (pretty much one every weekend except during Summerfest) the city rakes in a lot of money.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Duck_Puddle wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm supposed to take my two boys on a Colorado road trip for Spring break which culminates with a Supercross motorcycle race at Mile High Stadium in Denver. I'm kind of at a loss right now...the boys have been looking forward to this since November. I kind of hope they cancel the event and take that decision out of my hands...and so that I can at least get my money back as it was a bit over $200...I'd also have to eat around $400 worth of lodging because I got a smoking deal at a Marriott but had to pay upfront with no refunds for cancellation. All of my other lodging can be cancelled up to 24 hours before.
I still have a few weeks until I have to decide, so I guess I'll just watch how things go.
The race I was supposed to run this weekend was cancelled (along with about 284995050605 others according to my emails). I wouldn’t count on a refund though (especially if the event is cancelled close to the date) - unless there’s an existing refund policy for the race.
But many travel providers (airlines, hotels, etc) are relaxing change and cancellation policies - many currently have waivers for travel dates through the end of April. So you may do better there than you think.
If you end up not going.
I would think since it's a sporting event they would give fans a refund if the event can't take place...but I don't know. That'll be around 50,000 pissed off fans.
I could see a local race you sign up for not giving refunds...but this is a very large sporting event like going to a pro football game, etc. The very best riders in the world.
Oh? It’s an event to watch? I was thinking it was an event you all were participating in. My mistake.
That should be refunded.
Races you (or many) are participating in are not all offering refunds (deferrals are common). Even for the major marathons with 50K plus runners.0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.
Part of the problem in the US is that there is no clear messaging from the top. The president keeps contradicting the CDC and other experts and even went as far as to call it a hoax...but then on the other hand signed an 8.5M spending bill for coronavirus. The messaging from the top is all over the place and inconsistent.
Right now there seem to be two primary camps...people who are panicking and hoarding and people who don't even believe this could potentially be a big issue. On my facebook page I was just reading that Zac Brown has cancelled the remainder of his spring tour in an effort to provide better social distancing with this pandemic...the amount of people cussing him out on the comments section was ridiculous.
The people in the middle of the two extremes who think it's wise to exercise some additional precautions, but not freak out but also not just blow it off seem few and far between.18 -
We have a huge running event this weekend (Oregon). So far, it's on. The race organizers are posting updates on the website that they are keeping up with guidelines from local health officials and the CDC. I'm still planning to go. It's one of the biggest races, but it is outdoors, it's well managed, and usually, runners become quite spread out, in spite of the amount of people.
My 24 year old has a trip to Vegas planned with girlfriends that I am encouraging her to cancel though. Bring cooped up in casinos and handling things like slots doesn't sound like a good plan right now.
I'm still trying to get over how many times a day I find myself with my hands up at my face...4 -
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Bballnguitarz wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol
Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship
Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.
I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol JK!
EDIT: Norwegian now says we can cancel our cruise up to 48 hours before we sail, but we decided to just go on it anyways. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be a fairly empty cruise!
If that many passengers cancel, it's doubtful that it'd be profitable enough for them to chose to continue the cruise.1 -
Just saw the NCAA "recommends" that the NCAA tournament be played without spectators (just essential personnel and family). My question is, isn't that the NCAA's call? Who decides about their recommendation?
Edited to add: Never mind. Looks like the media report I read used that language, but others are reporting it as a done deal.4 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.
Part of the problem in the US is that there is no clear messaging from the top. The president keeps contradicting the CDC and other experts and even went as far as to call it a hoax...but then on the other hand signed an 8.5M spending bill for coronavirus. The messaging from the top is all over the place and inconsistent.
Right now there seem to be two primary camps...people who are panicking and hoarding and people who don't even believe this could potentially be a big issue. On my facebook page I was just reading that Zac Brown has cancelled the remainder of his spring tour in an effort to provide better social distancing with this pandemic...the amount of people cussing him out on the comments section was ridiculous.
The people in the middle of the two extremes who think it's wise to exercise some additional precautions, but not freak out but also not just blow it off seem few and far between.
Here in Italy we had the same exact political reaction. To try and keep people calm. Then they will ramp up a step at a time. Watch carefully what they do--NOT what they say. That's how to sift the wheat from the chaff (I'm from a farm originally).13 -
We just had an announcement on public television by our president, here in Italy. Now every business will be closed: restaurants, hairdressers, barbers, all shops. Effectively the only businesses open will be farmacies and grocery stores. This will be until further notice. China is offering to help us, shipping masks and other medical goods.10
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West Virginia Coronovirus - March 14 the military personnel who came in contact with a positive person will be up unless they test positive or begin to show signs. https://www.wboy.com/top-stories/service-member-at-wvs-camp-dawson-may-have-been-exposed-to-coronavirus/
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rheddmobile wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »lightenup2016 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »lightenup2016 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »fitlulu4150 wrote: »I've been following the COVID-19 for awhile............like a lot of you I'm sure. At first I thought, well we have more deaths from seasonal A/B strains and it just didn't seem like anything much different. After a lot of research, of which there is actually very little known about this novel coronavirus so far, I've decided after watching what happened in China, S Korea and now Italy and the US, we need to be very proactive here in containing the virus.
I think it's imperative that those of us who are healthy/young (I'm healthy but not young) do our part to stop the spread of the virus. Our oldest and most infirm among us are at great risk, so it's up to the rest of us to do what we can to mitigate their exposure. Follow the recommendations of local and federal medical personnel.
The numbers of infected are increasing daily because the testing results are finally coming back after a lack of testing kits. Until we have an accurate number of those infected I think it's best to be overly cautious.
We should all practice responsible hygiene... hand washing and such. However, it is clear that this isn't going to be contained. I've already accepted that I will get Covid-19 at some point, just like most everyone else. It is just a matter of when, not if. Personally, I am not any more concerned than about getting a cold. I am young, not healthy, but my immune system is fantastic. So I am not concerned.
It may well be a forgone conclusion that you'll get it at some point, but the whole point of extra precautions like limiting potential exposure is to slow the rate of infection, so that health care systems aren't overwhelmed and those more at risk of severe symptoms have some hope of getting treatment. It's the socially responsible thing to do.
Yes, that was the first point I made in that post.T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »fitlulu4150 wrote: »I've been following the COVID-19 for awhile............like a lot of you I'm sure. At first I thought, well we have more deaths from seasonal A/B strains and it just didn't seem like anything much different. After a lot of research, of which there is actually very little known about this novel coronavirus so far, I've decided after watching what happened in China, S Korea and now Italy and the US, we need to be very proactive here in containing the virus.
I think it's imperative that those of us who are healthy/young (I'm healthy but not young) do our part to stop the spread of the virus. Our oldest and most infirm among us are at great risk, so it's up to the rest of us to do what we can to mitigate their exposure. Follow the recommendations of local and federal medical personnel.
The numbers of infected are increasing daily because the testing results are finally coming back after a lack of testing kits. Until we have an accurate number of those infected I think it's best to be overly cautious.
We should all practice responsible hygiene... hand washing and such. However, it is clear that this isn't going to be contained. I've already accepted that I will get Covid-19 at some point, just like most everyone else. It is just a matter of when, not if. Personally, I am not any more concerned than about getting a cold. I am young, not healthy, but my immune system is fantastic. So I am not concerned.
Ah, okay, just sort of read like you weren't going to worry about any sort of social distancing etc to help reduce rate of spread.
Well, no... the only "social distancing" I intend to do is minimize high 5's and hand shaking and such. My next marathon is 3/22, half marathons on 3/29 and 4/4. I intend to go to these unless cancelled. And I am going to work, stores, laundromat, etc. just like always. I am running outside just like always. I'm still washing hands and minimizing touching people and shared surfaces, but not going to completely change my schedules for the cold.
I was with you on this until you stated not changing your schedule for "a cold", because it's not a cold. It's death for 15% of people over 80, and for 7% of people in their 70s, not to mention those who have chronic illnesses. Good on you for watching out for yourself, but please think of others as well.
[ETA: Please see my later post referencing death rates by age from WHO]
The cold has higher mortality rates for people 80+ than for people in their 20's also, I'm sure, without even looking for the statistics.
ETA: If the 80-year old wants to stay home, that is their choice just as it is mine to not change my schedule because some people are getting a new version of cold. Just because something spreads fast, kills a small percentage of those it infects (and higher percentage of older people), I am not going to become a shut-in. I wouldn't do this for the cold, influenze, or norovirus - all 3 of which spread fast and have small mortality rates (higher if older) just like Covid-19.
I DID look that up, and couldn't find any info on death rates. I think if it was 7-15%, it might be easier to find on Dr. Google...
Also, I did state I was with you on not being a shut-in--it's just when you called it "a cold" that I call you out. Sure, call it a cold if you want--a mutated cold that overwhelms hospitals and medical personnel, and kills.
Calling it a cold is a metaphor. Except for public panic, Covid-19 isn't significantly different than the common cold.
But that simply isn't true. The common cold is... common. Covid-19 is by definition a novel virus.
You are assuming it will end up having the same risk factors as a cold. And it's presence out in the world is essentially doubling everyone's risk as it is out there in addition to the regular flu, plus the actual common cold.
Granted, the majority of us have a very small risk of the common cold, the seasonal flu, or probably even the novel virus leading to a more life threatening case of pneumonia or other respiratory infection, so doubling that risk isn't a big deal. As a member of a community, I think it's my responsibility to help the vulnerable in my community mitigate their risk, obviously you don't agree and that's fine. But diminishing the increased risk to the community because it doesn't really affect you isn't necessary. And I doubt you'd find an infectious disease expert or respiratory doctor who would sign off on a novel flu virus being the same risk to vulnerable people as the common cold, though I could certainly be wrong on that.
I'm not assuming anything, I am making conclusions based on what is known about the common cold and about Covid-19.I think it's my responsibility to help the vulnerable in my community mitigate their risk, obviously you don't agree and that's fine.
You came to that conclusion because I refuse to be a shut in?! I suppose if that is your definition... but I can tell you based on my observation that you people who are unwilling to leave home are the minority. So if I am the *kitten* for coming out in public, most other people are *kitten* also.
Legit question because maybe I'm missing something, but can you point me to "what is known"? Because folks in the field don't seem to know it, unless I am clearly misreading something. Not being a medical pro myself, this is quite possible.
There is a huge difference between avoiding crowds and being a shut-in. Regardless, my issue was only how you are downplaying the overall risk because the risk to you personally is in your opinion negligible. I have no doubt that most other people are looking at it the same way, that's why I'm concerned. Anyway, I don't think it's your responsibility to be a shut-in, I apologize if what I typed came out that way.
If you look up-thread, someone posted mortality rates at 0.2% for most of us younger people. There was a news report I was looking at just yesterday about an estimate that 50%-70% of us will eventually get it. A majority someday have it and almost everyone recovers just fine.... sounds like the common cold.
As said before, I will continue hand washing just like before. The only thing I am changing is less human contact in the way of high-5's at races, and hand shaking. I refuse to stay at home indefinitely, as previously explained.
Without questioning your or anyone else's personal action decisions, just mathing a little:
327 million people, conservatively, in the US.
50% infection rate (conservative end of your posted estimate)
0.2% mortality rate for everyone of all ages and conditions (very, very conservative interpretation of your posted number, since young people are at lower risk)
Suggests:
163,500,000 infected, most of them little affected, fortunately
327,000 dead
Do I think it will be that bad? No idea. I'm staying calm and carrying on, so far, in my circumstances.
It’s also worth pointing out that while it’s being reported that 80% of people have only mild illness, 20% have serious illness, and so far about 3.4% die, what isn’t being reported as much is that those 20% with serious illness are not “recovering just fine.” Most have to be on ventilators and more than half of them develop sepsis and organ shutdown. This disease has been described by a doctor as leaving your lungs like Swiss cheese. The 16% of people who are seriously ill and then recover are not going back to running marathons, they are severely and in some cases permanently damaged.
Exactly this! It seems that most believe, that someone struck with this virus and/or even the flu'll either make a full recovery or die. I've never come across anyone outside of the medical professional community, consider permanent disability a plausibility of a previously healthy enough working person & yet that's exactly what the flu did to me within 1995, at 14 years old.6 -
cmriverside wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).
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Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.
Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.
I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.
I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.
Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.
Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.
(^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)
No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?
Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.
And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.
My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.
The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.
Gatherings larger than 250.
Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.
Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »West Virginia Coronovirus - March 14 the military personnel who came in contact with a positive person will be up unless they test positive or begin to show signs. https://www.wboy.com/top-stories/service-member-at-wvs-camp-dawson-may-have-been-exposed-to-coronavirus/
just curious - how is that March 14 when today is March 11? lol
This isn't a confirmed case for WV, though - he has self quarantined since March 9 since being exposed on 2/29. If he doesn't start showing symptoms by March 14, he will be considered in the clear.
I do see in another article that WVU will be moving all in person classes to online or alternate methods, though the campus is staying open for now. I can see why they'd start this; its the biggest campus in the state and has many students from all over the place.0 -
Didn’t say it was a confirmed case .I said exactly what you did after me. Like I said March 14th his quarantine is up unless he shows signs or tests positive- he came in contact with a positive person . You read to fast 💨 happens.0
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Chef Barbell- It’s definitely a PITA we paid double for the tiny cans of corn than our normal salt free giant cans. Once a vaccines out there to procedures for tackling it to curing it that’s more sound y known by all things will get easier. How long will that be don’t know so even my Mother-in-law using a CVS or Walgreens app sending it to her house 🏡. Rest we bring her for now. If you like send a friend request In updating my friends when they ask where to get stuff ..I’m the stay at home mom since this last pregnancy so more time than them. (Csection issues is why)
Now Amazon Fresh has a 4-5 day wait on getting a time slot for delivery. Used to be a 24 hour turn around. Will have to go to the actual store tomorrow... ugh.3
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