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  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    I like the line about NZ having the best-placed economy to deal with this crisis. That will come in handy for you guys. Low debt? That must be nice.
  • Gisel2015
    Gisel2015 Posts: 4,215 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Even a continuing social distancing will not last for too long, if DT has his ways...

    Trump itching to scale back social distancing after 15 day-period, aides say
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/trump-coronavirus-15-days-social-distancing/index.html

    I don't think he could do anything to countermand the state governors on this.

    I think that TP read your post that is why you got a disagree... :p
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Report from WBUR's Here and Now program, broadcast on US National Public Radio (NPR):

    https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/03/23/malaria-drug-shortage-coronavirus

    Summary: Hydroxycholoquine (brand name Plaquenil) is an anti-malaria drug being tested for potential use against COVID-19/coronavirus. CDC sounds hopeful, but says proof is needed. US President has touted the drug in press conference as "a tremendous breakthrough" and "a game changer".

    The drug is also important for treatment of people with other conditions, including autoimmune conditions such as lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

    In some areas, demand has risen to the point where supplies are challenging to get, for people with the relevant health conditions who routinely need them.

    Some of the increased use is potentially health professionals understandably doing anything possible (even if unproven) to avoid contagion in a context of inadequate protective equipment, but speculative over-prescription and hoarding are also suspected.

    I'm trying really hard here to keep this post a simple factual summary, in light of the MFP community guidelines against political content. I think the core issue would be of common interest, but especially so to those who currently depend on hydroxychloroquine prescriptions.

    Do not, however, just decide on your own to take hydroxycholoquine tablets intended for use as aquarium cleaners, without a doctor’s order. A couple of not smart people did that. One is dead and the other very sick.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489097-man-dies-after-taking-malaria-medication-in-effort-to-prevent-coronavirus

    Where did I read that some people were drinking bleach to disinfect their insides?

  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    I like the line about NZ having the best-placed economy to deal with this crisis. That will come in handy for you guys. Low debt? That must be nice.

    We've been saving for a rainy day. And yes, I understand that we are very fortunate to be in this position.

    I think the US is pretty screwed no matter what they do at this point :(

    That is pretty much business as usual for us though.

    I was trying not to go there ;)
  • Ruatine
    Ruatine Posts: 3,424 Member
    edited March 2020
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »

    I like the line about NZ having the best-placed economy to deal with this crisis. That will come in handy for you guys. Low debt? That must be nice.

    We've been saving for a rainy day. And yes, I understand that we are very fortunate to be in this position.

    I think the US is pretty screwed no matter what they do at this point :(

    That is pretty much business as usual for us though.

    I was trying not to go there ;)

    It's an unfortunate truism at this point.
  • Ruatine
    Ruatine Posts: 3,424 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Report from WBUR's Here and Now program, broadcast on US National Public Radio (NPR):

    https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/03/23/malaria-drug-shortage-coronavirus

    Summary: Hydroxycholoquine (brand name Plaquenil) is an anti-malaria drug being tested for potential use against COVID-19/coronavirus. CDC sounds hopeful, but says proof is needed. US President has touted the drug in press conference as "a tremendous breakthrough" and "a game changer".

    The drug is also important for treatment of people with other conditions, including autoimmune conditions such as lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

    In some areas, demand has risen to the point where supplies are challenging to get, for people with the relevant health conditions who routinely need them.

    Some of the increased use is potentially health professionals understandably doing anything possible (even if unproven) to avoid contagion in a context of inadequate protective equipment, but speculative over-prescription and hoarding are also suspected.

    I'm trying really hard here to keep this post a simple factual summary, in light of the MFP community guidelines against political content. I think the core issue would be of common interest, but especially so to those who currently depend on hydroxychloroquine prescriptions.

    Do not, however, just decide on your own to take hydroxycholoquine tablets intended for use as aquarium cleaners, without a doctor’s order. A couple of not smart people did that. One is dead and the other very sick.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489097-man-dies-after-taking-malaria-medication-in-effort-to-prevent-coronavirus

    Where did I read that some people were drinking bleach to disinfect their insides?

    Yeah, I heard gargling with it. I said to my husband, the thought of it makes me gag. 🤢

    I’m done for the day. I’m going to check out Netflix for something happy for the evening.

    I'm really not surprised at anything people do anymore. Whether it's willful ignorance or just unfortunate ignorance, fear only makes poor decision-making skills worse.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Report from WBUR's Here and Now program, broadcast on US National Public Radio (NPR):

    https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/03/23/malaria-drug-shortage-coronavirus

    Summary: Hydroxycholoquine (brand name Plaquenil) is an anti-malaria drug being tested for potential use against COVID-19/coronavirus. CDC sounds hopeful, but says proof is needed. US President has touted the drug in press conference as "a tremendous breakthrough" and "a game changer".

    The drug is also important for treatment of people with other conditions, including autoimmune conditions such as lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

    In some areas, demand has risen to the point where supplies are challenging to get, for people with the relevant health conditions who routinely need them.

    Some of the increased use is potentially health professionals understandably doing anything possible (even if unproven) to avoid contagion in a context of inadequate protective equipment, but speculative over-prescription and hoarding are also suspected.

    I'm trying really hard here to keep this post a simple factual summary, in light of the MFP community guidelines against political content. I think the core issue would be of common interest, but especially so to those who currently depend on hydroxychloroquine prescriptions.

    I've read two stories about people dying from trying to treat themselves with choloquine. One was about this couple in the link already posted: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489097-man-dies-after-taking-malaria-medication-in-effort-to-prevent-coronavirus

    And here's the other story: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    SisterSue, you get a 10++ for your very thoughtful action of offering freebies to those who need it!!

    I've stuck with my usual once a week shopping, am a little ahead on a couple things, mainly for my dogs. :blush: But am finding stores have little to none of: paper products, cleaners, and bread. I haven't been able to get one loaf of bread in 10 days now. Not even frozen bread dough. I'll have to resort to homemade but I remember trying that a couple times, years and years ago. :(

    Lots of great recipes and tips for making bread in this thread! https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10454582/so-i-was-going-to-bake-my-first-bread/p1

    All you need is flour, water, salt, and yeast :smiley:

    I prefer the Dutch oven method these days, but I have definitely made good bread in regular bread pans, and flatbread, and rolls...

    Here's a fabulous bread book: Flour Water Salt Yeast: The Fundamentals of Artisan Bread and Pizza

    Under normal circumstances I would suggest seeing if your library system has it (mine does) but likely your library is now closed :(
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,887 Member
    edited March 2020
    Follow up to my post about the Connie Willis book (The Doomsday Book). Now I'm at a point where the unpleasant characters in the book are calling the mysterious illness striking in 2054 the "Indian flu" (the first person known so far to have come down with it is descended (3rd gen) from Pakistani immigrants), and people are picketing and blaming the unidentified flu on the EC (book published in 1992, precursor to the EU) and demanding that England get out since immigrants bringing in the flu can come from Europe.

    Not meaning to be political and obviously details are different, but again weird parallels. (Also, in the Plague subplot, discussion of how the Plague moved from China to Italy and later England -- much slower progress for a while, though.)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Follow up to my post about the Connie Willis book (The Doomsday Book). Now I'm at a point where the unpleasant characters in the book are calling the mysterious illness striking in 2054 the "Indian flu" (the first person known so far to have come down with it is descended (3rd gen) from Pakistani immigrants), and people are picketing and blaming the unidentified flu on the EC (book published in 1992, precursor to the EU) and demanding that England get out since immigrants bringing in the flu can come from Europe.

    Not meaning to be political and obviously details are different, but again weird parallels. (Also, in the Plague subplot, discussion of how the Plague moved from China to Italy and later England -- much slower progress for a while, though.)

    I belong to three library systems and would normally be able to get a book published in 1992 right away, but "The Doomsday Book" is in high demand these days. I'm on the wait list.

    Meanwhile, I'm reading "Station 11" and have Robin Cook books in my queue.

    Unfortunately, I just reread "The Stand" last year.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    Are we supposed to be reading virus books? I didn't get the required reading list. Since I have been in a weight loss induced midlife crisis of sorts I am going back through a bunch of books from my youth. I will probably not re-read the 50 or more Star Trek books I must have read in HS. One of them probably had a space virus which would relate to corona though since it is an astrological term.
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    lkpducky wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    Meanwhile I'm mucking around trying to get my hair to curl...

    (it's my apocalypse project #priorities)

    The news should be enough to make your hair curl. :o

    Maybe that's actually what's happening!!

    (my hair used to be straight, it's been getting wavier, way more so than I realised because it often gets plaited/braided or stuck in a ponytail as soon as it's washed, I'm pretty sure with not too much effort I can get ringlets)