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cmriverside wrote: »<snip> I don't think there's any way to do it perfectly. I'm hoping that if I do intake any virus it's such a small number of them that I can fight it off? I don't even know if that's a thing.
I guess it's kind of a thing:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238819-does-a-high-viral-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/#4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Reporting on New Jersey: the governor (or his account) on Twitter telling people they still cannot pump their own gas, and numerous NJ residents commenting about how very dangerous that would be in this time and how good it is that they are protected from that danger and just generally wondering why anyone would ever want to have self-pumped gas. Occasional residents of other states are remarking that pumping or not pumping gas is unlikely to be a big difference and mentioning that one can wash hands after pumping or wear gloves. The apparent NJ disdain for pumping one's own gas is something that always amuses me.
I'm wondering if I can get through this without needing to get any gas at all.
Lol, that reminds me of when I used to live in NY and used to frequently take people to the Newark, NJ airport. I'd always get gas in NJ cuz it was cheaper and full serve. (My chemical sensitivity was worse then and pumping my own gas could be problematic for me. This is not the case for the vast majority of the population.)
Yes, NJ and OR. Last time I was in OR, I remember I took the rental to gas it up before returning. It was only a few gallons and I kinda felt bad - as though I was wasting the guy's time. He gets done and mentioned how little it was (it was a Ford Explorer, so I'm sure he was expecting it to be a good amount). I explained the situation, but still felt a bit bad for him. I was close to the airport, so I'm sure it wasn't the first time for him either.
It's only New Jersey, now though.0 -
I wash my hands after going to the grocery and wipe down the cart before I use it, but that's as far as it goes. There are very few cases in my county so it's hard to be really paranoid about it. Until a week ago, we had none at all. Avoiding groups and washing hands is as far as I feel it necessary to act.2
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cmriverside wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »<snip> I don't think there's any way to do it perfectly. I'm hoping that if I do intake any virus it's such a small number of them that I can fight it off? I don't even know if that's a thing.
I guess it's kind of a thing:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238819-does-a-high-viral-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/#
"Even if the infectious dose isn’t related to disease severity, it still pays to try and minimise our exposure to the virus because this will reduce our chances of falling ill in the first place. “We want to be taking every precaution we can to prevent ourselves getting infected, which will also reduce our ability to pass the virus on to others,” says Parker. “Any measures we can take to avoid infection are worth taking.”"
Thanks for posting that good link that I thought summed it up well. When I went to order more antiviral (Quercetin) and anti-malaria (Artemisinin) supplements I found others had the same idea and had beat me to Amazon so my normal brands were out of stock with no restocking date.0 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Reporting on New Jersey: the governor (or his account) on Twitter telling people they still cannot pump their own gas, and numerous NJ residents commenting about how very dangerous that would be in this time and how good it is that they are protected from that danger and just generally wondering why anyone would ever want to have self-pumped gas. Occasional residents of other states are remarking that pumping or not pumping gas is unlikely to be a big difference and mentioning that one can wash hands after pumping or wear gloves. The apparent NJ disdain for pumping one's own gas is something that always amuses me.
I'm wondering if I can get through this without needing to get any gas at all.
Lol, that reminds me of when I used to live in NY and used to frequently take people to the Newark, NJ airport. I'd always get gas in NJ cuz it was cheaper and full serve. (My chemical sensitivity was worse then and pumping my own gas could be problematic for me. This is not the case for the vast majority of the population.)
Yes, NJ and OR. Last time I was in OR, I remember I took the rental to gas it up before returning. It was only a few gallons and I kinda felt bad - as though I was wasting the guy's time. He gets done and mentioned how little it was (it was a Ford Explorer, so I'm sure he was expecting it to be a good amount). I explained the situation, but still felt a bit bad for him. I was close to the airport, so I'm sure it wasn't the first time for him either.
It's only New Jersey, now though.
When did OR change? That story is only from a year ago.2 -
I was thinking about how I'd love a salad, and the reason I don't have anything to make one is that our produce doesn't last, here in WI, and I haven't been to a grocery store in 2 weeks or more. I bought a wide variety of shelf-stable foods, no more than 2 of any one thing, so I wouldn't have to go to the store. Now I am craving fresh produce. I guess I'll go soon and fill up on salad for a few days, then see if I can last another 2 weeks without any.9
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I was thinking about how I'd love a salad, and the reason I don't have anything to make one is that our produce doesn't last, here in WI, and I haven't been to a grocery store in 2 weeks or more. I bought a wide variety of shelf-stable foods, no more than 2 of any one thing, so I wouldn't have to go to the store. Now I am craving fresh produce. I guess I'll go soon and fill up on salad for a few days, then see if I can last another 2 weeks without any.
I find using these containers makes produce last 4 times longer then storing it without https://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-FreshWorks-Produce-Storage-Containers/dp/B01FCR7MYM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3KGQAEUXBP1P3&keywords=produce+keeper+for+refrigerator&qid=1585614667&sprefix=produce+keepers+,aps,317&sr=8-2 They even make long ones for celery or asparagus4 -
This is an interesting, lengthy document prepared by Michael Lin, PhD-MD, a professor of neurobiology and bioengineering at Stanford. Toward the end it goes into masks, and he thinks they do help, and explains why:
https://doc-00-8o-apps-viewer.googleusercontent.com/viewer/secure/pdf/4mnfvpjm27ci9pe8c31c2urn0urg1e5f/63n4lc4mnif52pbnqjptb8j2o27b1tpi/1585614300000/drive/13432444871244508169/ACFrOgDqysAB7pYz3uNv2jL2UqXAq6V_9FpLEY82R0C6IK_4P6u2P50up6hTJpOVA48JPLjNgWYx1S0_rpmGXid6lXLuenPnPOLsgR6kOME1e9ThXkdnB0SMszRxEjafLo79VyLCpdZIKOOumU5C?print=true&nonce=johe0q210nv78&user=13432444871244508169&hash=mlpm17m0bp2jahmm9n3dhia287pdmi2f5 -
Is this the same? I couldn’t access your linkThis is an interesting, lengthy document prepared by Michael Lin, PhD-MD, a professor of neurobiology and bioengineering at Stanford. Toward the end it goes into masks, and he thinks they do help, and explains why:
https://doc-00-8o-apps-viewer.googleusercontent.com/viewer/secure/pdf/4mnfvpjm27ci9pe8c31c2urn0urg1e5f/63n4lc4mnif52pbnqjptb8j2o27b1tpi/1585614300000/drive/13432444871244508169/ACFrOgDqysAB7pYz3uNv2jL2UqXAq6V_9FpLEY82R0C6IK_4P6u2P50up6hTJpOVA48JPLjNgWYx1S0_rpmGXid6lXLuenPnPOLsgR6kOME1e9ThXkdnB0SMszRxEjafLo79VyLCpdZIKOOumU5C?print=true&nonce=johe0q210nv78&user=13432444871244508169&hash=mlpm17m0bp2jahmm9n3dhia287pdmi2f
https://up.raindrop.io/raindrop/files/146/310/187/Lin_COVID_19_SARS_Co_V_2_slidedeck_20200315.pdf
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Reporting on New Jersey: the governor (or his account) on Twitter telling people they still cannot pump their own gas, and numerous NJ residents commenting about how very dangerous that would be in this time and how good it is that they are protected from that danger and just generally wondering why anyone would ever want to have self-pumped gas. Occasional residents of other states are remarking that pumping or not pumping gas is unlikely to be a big difference and mentioning that one can wash hands after pumping or wear gloves. The apparent NJ disdain for pumping one's own gas is something that always amuses me.
I'm wondering if I can get through this without needing to get any gas at all.
Lol, that reminds me of when I used to live in NY and used to frequently take people to the Newark, NJ airport. I'd always get gas in NJ cuz it was cheaper and full serve. (My chemical sensitivity was worse then and pumping my own gas could be problematic for me. This is not the case for the vast majority of the population.)
Yes, NJ and OR. Last time I was in OR, I remember I took the rental to gas it up before returning. It was only a few gallons and I kinda felt bad - as though I was wasting the guy's time. He gets done and mentioned how little it was (it was a Ford Explorer, so I'm sure he was expecting it to be a good amount). I explained the situation, but still felt a bit bad for him. I was close to the airport, so I'm sure it wasn't the first time for him either.
It's only New Jersey, now though.
When did OR change? That story is only from a year ago.
I went to check, it wasn't statewide:
Oregon and New Jersey are the only two states that ban self-service gas stations. But thanks to a new law that went into effect on January 1, customers can now pump their own gas in Oregon, though only at stand-alone gas stations in counties with fewer than 40,000 residents. Elsewhere, the ban still holds.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2018/01/03/oregons-freak-out-over-pumping-your-own-gas-shows-why-many-dumb-regulations-still-exist/#2c9bacf8600e
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Currently:
In an effort to comply with social distancing guidelines, the Oregon State Fire Marshal is suspending its enforcement of gas station self-service regulations.
Effective immediately, gas stations will be allowed to let drivers pump their own gas if they meet any of the following requirements:
The owner (of the gas station) retains documentation that there are no employees available to work as an attendant, including documentation for absences and employee hiring and retention efforts;
The owner is subject to State Fire Marshal audit and has posted safety signs for how to safely operate a fuel pump; and
The hours of operation under this subsection do not exceed 10 consecutive hours.
https://www.koin.com/oregon-2/oregon-loosens-self-service-restrictions-for-pumping-gas/2 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »I wash my hands after going to the grocery and wipe down the cart before I use it, but that's as far as it goes. There are very few cases in my county so it's hard to be really paranoid about it. Until a week ago, we had none at all. Avoiding groups and washing hands is as far as I feel it necessary to act.
I'm more like you. I always wash my produce, though I think I might start soaking them in white vinegar before using them. I have been making sure not to touch my face or eat anything after shopping or being out in public until I either wash my hands or at least use hand sanitizer. If I run through the drive through, I wait until after I've paid the cashier, then immediately use hand sanitizer I keep in my truck before putting the straw in my drink or picking up any food items, and I try to keep the food items in their wrappers and not touch them directly. Since usually what I'm getting is a plain chicken fillet no bun, that's not too hard - just stab it with a fork and eat it that way!1 -
Is this the same? I couldn’t access your linkThis is an interesting, lengthy document prepared by Michael Lin, PhD-MD, a professor of neurobiology and bioengineering at Stanford. Toward the end it goes into masks, and he thinks they do help, and explains why:
https://doc-00-8o-apps-viewer.googleusercontent.com/viewer/secure/pdf/4mnfvpjm27ci9pe8c31c2urn0urg1e5f/63n4lc4mnif52pbnqjptb8j2o27b1tpi/1585614300000/drive/13432444871244508169/ACFrOgDqysAB7pYz3uNv2jL2UqXAq6V_9FpLEY82R0C6IK_4P6u2P50up6hTJpOVA48JPLjNgWYx1S0_rpmGXid6lXLuenPnPOLsgR6kOME1e9ThXkdnB0SMszRxEjafLo79VyLCpdZIKOOumU5C?print=true&nonce=johe0q210nv78&user=13432444871244508169&hash=mlpm17m0bp2jahmm9n3dhia287pdmi2f
https://up.raindrop.io/raindrop/files/146/310/187/Lin_COVID_19_SARS_Co_V_2_slidedeck_20200315.pdf
Yes, that's it.0 -
Re: washing produce. Coronavirus is quickly destroyed by soapy water. The goofball “expert” who said if you don’t get all the soap off it will give you an upset stomach is being absurd. First of all, it’s not that hard to rinse the soap off, and second, hand dishwashing soap is deliberately non-toxic because people are meant to wash dishes in it. Don’t make a cocktail of the soapy water and drink it and you will be fine. DO soak your produce in it for at least twenty seconds and it will kill Covid-19.7
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Heck, I think even a reasonably-worn bandana to make a quick grocery run might be better than nothing.
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Absolutely! Anything that can block directly breathing in infectious droplets and act as a barrier between your hands and your face is prudent during this time. Geez, the pollen is so bad in Georgia right now I'm tempted to wear a mask walking around my yard. I'm playing "pollen ir pandemic?" with every sneeze and throat tickle.
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VA governor saw too many people at parks and beaches, so... We have a Stay at Home order until... June 10
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VA governor saw too many people at parks and beaches, so... We have a Stay at Home order until... June 10
I know it isn't, but this just seems like some weird trick to get people to go recreate outside. It seems like more people are out walking, running, etc. than any other time ever - even times like July 4th weekend. As soon as politicians recommended people stay home, all those people who haven't gotten out for exercise in a decade have come out just to spite them. There may be a silver lining to this whole situation after all.6 -
VA governor saw too many people at parks and beaches, so... We have a Stay at Home order until... June 10
I looked this up to find out the details of your order. Why are folks so dumb? There’s a big article about a run on grocery stores and liquor stores, the two main places not affected by the order!
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I was thinking about how I'd love a salad, and the reason I don't have anything to make one is that our produce doesn't last, here in WI, and I haven't been to a grocery store in 2 weeks or more. I bought a wide variety of shelf-stable foods, no more than 2 of any one thing, so I wouldn't have to go to the store. Now I am craving fresh produce. I guess I'll go soon and fill up on salad for a few days, then see if I can last another 2 weeks without any.
I’ve been eating my fresh lettuce first, then making salad out of steamed artichoke hearts and other more long-lasting produce such as red cabbage and radishes.7 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »VA governor saw too many people at parks and beaches, so... We have a Stay at Home order until... June 10
I know it isn't, but this just seems like some weird trick to get people to go recreate outside. It seems like more people are out walking, running, etc. than any other time ever - even times like July 4th weekend. As soon as politicians recommended people stay home, all those people who haven't gotten out for exercise in a decade have come out just to spite them. There may be a silver lining to this whole situation after all.
I don't see that here at all. It may be the poor/so so weather, but I see fewer people outside than I normally do, and the people I see are focused on distancing. I live in an area where outdoors recreation is pretty common under normal terms (that was not entirely the case as of Tuesday, which was a lovely day, but also the day we got scolded by the mayor).2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »VA governor saw too many people at parks and beaches, so... We have a Stay at Home order until... June 10
I looked this up to find out the details of your order. Why are folks so dumb? There’s a big article about a run on grocery stores and liquor stores, the two main places not affected by the order!
People totally panicked about liquor here (when our order was imposed on 3/19 and rumored on 3/18) -- it wasn't known it would be "essential" but since we sell it at grocery stores seemed likely it would be available. Apparently (from later stories, as I don't go anywhere I could observe it) people also panicked about marijuana, although that is also available.
Our order is currently only through 4/7, but everyone knows it will be extended. CPS just made it clear the rest of the school year will be cancelled and the gov has noted this will last until late into April at minimum. At best cases will be peaking in mid to later April here. The Archdiocese of Chicago has cancelled all Easter services (which made Trump's "we will be back in church by Easter" nonsense that has now been retracted seem extra silly).4
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